| New Manager: odds on 15:56 - May 18 with 5343 views | Lblock |
| New Manager: odds on 15:19 - May 18 by DannyPaddox |
An interesting question from DMM that remains unanswered.
I’ve another question. Is Warburton still technically the manager and in the role for an arbitrary date like the end of May? And could this be the factor why there hasn’t been an immediate replacement announced? |
Good shout that.
Clearly you’d think attached Contracts would run until just after the play off finals are held plus a bit.
To appoint someone ahead of that could be considered as contrived dismissal or some other HR claim.
Also you wouldn’t pay two “coaches”
It’s a short summer so I’d expect new man in 1st June
No doubt plenty of underhand chatting going on with clubs off the record throughout the Leagues…. Look at reports on Birmingham for instance  |  |
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| New Manager: odds on 15:58 - May 18 with 5341 views | Antti_Heinola |
| New Manager: odds on 15:14 - May 18 by BklynRanger |
Where is the man claiming facts? That post is littered with the words "I think" as should all of ours - your included. |
True, I overstated, guilty as charged.But they've gone from 'I think' to 'just appoint Eustace as caretaker' - so it's a little more than thinking isn't it? It's believing.
Besides, point stands: there's a hell of a lot of panic going on over guesswork. |  |
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| New Manager: odds on 16:39 - May 18 with 5166 views | BerkoRanger |
| New Manager: odds on 15:56 - May 18 by Lblock |
Good shout that.
Clearly you’d think attached Contracts would run until just after the play off finals are held plus a bit.
To appoint someone ahead of that could be considered as contrived dismissal or some other HR claim.
Also you wouldn’t pay two “coaches”
It’s a short summer so I’d expect new man in 1st June
No doubt plenty of underhand chatting going on with clubs off the record throughout the Leagues…. Look at reports on Birmingham for instance |
My thinking exactly, LBlock. |  | | |
| New Manager: odds on 16:43 - May 18 with 5147 views | Hayesender |
jon dahl tommasson backed from 40s into 8/1 |  |
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| New Manager: odds on 16:45 - May 18 with 5127 views | QPR_John |
| New Manager: odds on 15:56 - May 18 by Lblock |
Good shout that.
Clearly you’d think attached Contracts would run until just after the play off finals are held plus a bit.
To appoint someone ahead of that could be considered as contrived dismissal or some other HR claim.
Also you wouldn’t pay two “coaches”
It’s a short summer so I’d expect new man in 1st June
No doubt plenty of underhand chatting going on with clubs off the record throughout the Leagues…. Look at reports on Birmingham for instance |
“ To appoint someone ahead of that could be considered as contrived dismissal or some other HR claim. ”
But Warburton was not dismissed. Of course there are safeguards against unfair dismissal but I don’t think there are any HR issues regarding not renewing a contract. | | | |
| New Manager: odds on 16:50 - May 18 with 5097 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Where are all these 30 year old hot shot managers and coaches that St Georges was supposed to create? |  | | |
| New Manager: odds on 17:00 - May 18 with 5043 views | BklynRanger |
| New Manager: odds on 16:43 - May 18 by Hayesender |
jon dahl tommasson backed from 40s into 8/1 |
Now there's a real man's man - he'd whip that squad into shape in no time, give those lads a touch of the old Danish tough love. I myself wouldn't be averse to
Ok sorry wrong thread. |  | | |
| New Manager: odds on 17:00 - May 18 with 5038 views | daveB |
| New Manager: odds on 16:50 - May 18 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Where are all these 30 year old hot shot managers and coaches that St Georges was supposed to create? |
Steve Cooper and Rob Edwards are two of them |  | | |
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| New Manager: odds on 17:04 - May 18 with 5016 views | switchingcode |
| New Manager: odds on 16:43 - May 18 by Hayesender |
jon dahl tommasson backed from 40s into 8/1 |
Could be a good choice friend of Thomas Frank . | | | |
| New Manager: odds on 17:09 - May 18 with 4997 views | DavieQPR |
As long as he was given 2 months notice that his contract would not be renewed and the reasons why in writing, thus removing implied renewal, then there is no HR or any issues. |  | | |
| New Manager: odds on 17:35 - May 18 with 4838 views | bosh67 |
Jon Dahl Tommasson could be an interesting appointment although he has no experience in English football. His scoring rate was insane as a player. He’s meant to be a tough love character but it may be what we need. With Sol Campbell, Tim Sherwood and Kermit the frog being banded about he may not be a bad choice. |  |
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| New Manager: odds on 17:48 - May 18 with 4771 views | WatfordR |
| New Manager: odds on 17:35 - May 18 by bosh67 |
Jon Dahl Tommasson could be an interesting appointment although he has no experience in English football. His scoring rate was insane as a player. He’s meant to be a tough love character but it may be what we need. With Sol Campbell, Tim Sherwood and Kermit the frog being banded about he may not be a bad choice. |
If it's true we are looking at him, it's massively encouraging we're prepared to look abroad imo. |  | | |
| New Manager: odds on 18:39 - May 18 with 4516 views | dmm |
It's nice to see Dave Mc saying Campbell is not in line for the job. Not that I believed he was mind. |  | | |
| New Manager: odds on 18:53 - May 18 with 4400 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| New Manager: odds on 17:00 - May 18 by daveB |
Steve Cooper and Rob Edwards are two of them |
I stand corrected! Steve Cooper looks like he’s led a life so I can’t believe he’s young enough to graduate SGP.
Potentially at least two promotion gaining managers under 45 is really good.
We need to get on this bandwagon, give them time and space, and enjoy the fruits in 5-10 years. Appointing a unheard name with no baggage is appealing.
We should never appoint a manager old enough to have danced to the locomotion. [Post edited 18 May 2022 19:18]
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| New Manager: odds on 18:54 - May 18 with 4399 views | Galileo |
| New Manager: odds on 17:35 - May 18 by bosh67 |
Jon Dahl Tommasson could be an interesting appointment although he has no experience in English football. His scoring rate was insane as a player. He’s meant to be a tough love character but it may be what we need. With Sol Campbell, Tim Sherwood and Kermit the frog being banded about he may not be a bad choice. |
By all accounts he priced himself out of the Hibs job.
Are we in a position to offer more money than Hibs ! | | | |
| New Manager: odds on 19:15 - May 18 with 4326 views | Pippo1982 |
I think Jon Dahl Tomasson would be a great appointment for us.
He’s played in some great teams with legends of the game in Italy (he won the league, cup and champions League with AC Milan), Germany, Spain, Holland (winning trophies there too) and a very brief spell with Newcastle United, which although didn’t go well, he was only 18 years old at the time and to be fair Newcastle were in a bit of a state! I think he may have been Les Ferdinand’s replacement or bought with the Les’s transfer fee when he went to Tottenham. He’s been managed by some good managers himself at those clubs.
Wikipedia, although not always accurate, says he won some youth awards when playing in Holland so he knows what it takes to establish himself at a young age. I would have thought he’d be the ideal person for a young player to learn from.
As a coach / manager, he’s got Champions League experience with Malmo and has won the Swedish League with them after a period where they hadn’t won it in a few seasons. Look at what Graham Potter has done after coming from the a successful period in Sweden...
I was listening to a podcast today where Tomasson was interviewed by a European football journalist called Graham Hunter and he comes across really well, full of energy, ambitious, adaptable and youth-focused (which is the route we’re taking as a club according to Nedum Onouha). Of note, he talked about the mentality of young players abroad and how they question everything and how he’s dealt with that as a manager - football in England seems to be going down this route too.
He’s probably of an age where both younger players and those with experience will know who he is and will probably have good links to the European market. He speaks a few languages which I would have thought is important when trying to get players in from abroad.
He was interested in the Hibs manager’s job before Lee Johnson was appointed yesterday so surely he’d come to us!
The only thing is having listened to that podcast, I don’t see him being easily controlled by Les - something that might not work in his favour… | | | |
| New Manager: odds on 19:50 - May 18 with 4147 views | mylot50years |
Really get the feeling we are waiting for Wycombe to finish the playoffs, to then announce its going to be Gareth assisted by Eustace.
Think the deal is already done. | | | |
| New Manager: odds on 19:58 - May 18 with 4103 views | joolsyp |
| New Manager: odds on 17:48 - May 18 by WatfordR |
If it's true we are looking at him, it's massively encouraging we're prepared to look abroad imo. |
I thought he's still contracted to Malmo? Took them to the Champions League last year and they beat Rangers. If he is being looked at/interviewed I'd be very happy with that. |  | | |
| New Manager: odds on 22:33 - May 18 with 3763 views | SimplyNico |
| New Manager: odds on 17:09 - May 18 by DavieQPR |
As long as he was given 2 months notice that his contract would not be renewed and the reasons why in writing, thus removing implied renewal, then there is no HR or any issues. |
Just to be really picky on this dismissal point, for the purposes of Part 10 of the Employment Rights Act 1996 (“ERA”), ERA, s95(1)(b) is what you need to look at.
That subsection provides that an employee is dismissed by his employer if:
(b)he is employed under a limited-term contract and that contract terminates by virtue of the limiting event without being renewed under the same contract,
A n annually renewable one year contract is a limited term contract.
If MW had such a contract and it was not renewed, he was dismissed.
For completeness, ERA Part 10 deals with unfair dismissal. Obviously, MW needed two years’ continuous employment for an ordinary unfair dismissal claim, but he had that. | | | |
| New Manager: odds on 23:27 - May 18 with 3607 views | aston_hoop |
Get your translators on this just in case we really are interested:
https://sport.tv2.dk/fodbold/2022-04-12-jon-dahl-staar-stadig-uden-job-men-det-e
"It doesn't have to be a top team. If the project is interesting, if the club has an interesting direction they want to play football in and develop the club, it can also be really, really exciting, says the former national team striker" [Post edited 18 May 2022 23:28]
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| New Manager: odds on 08:50 - May 19 with 3185 views | QPR_John |
| New Manager: odds on 22:33 - May 18 by SimplyNico |
Just to be really picky on this dismissal point, for the purposes of Part 10 of the Employment Rights Act 1996 (“ERA”), ERA, s95(1)(b) is what you need to look at.
That subsection provides that an employee is dismissed by his employer if:
(b)he is employed under a limited-term contract and that contract terminates by virtue of the limiting event without being renewed under the same contract,
A n annually renewable one year contract is a limited term contract.
If MW had such a contract and it was not renewed, he was dismissed.
For completeness, ERA Part 10 deals with unfair dismissal. Obviously, MW needed two years’ continuous employment for an ordinary unfair dismissal claim, but he had that. |
Well you live and learn | | | |
| New Manager: odds on 14:54 - May 19 with 2741 views | DannytheR |
Ronny Delia's popped up in the betting now.  |  | | |
| New Manager: odds on 15:07 - May 19 with 2692 views | TheChef |
| New Manager: odds on 14:54 - May 19 by DannytheR |
Ronny Delia's popped up in the betting now. |
Let's be 'avin ya. |  |
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| New Manager: odds on 15:10 - May 19 with 2653 views | knocker |
Hopefully nonsense but Sol Man into 7/2. | | | |
| New Manager: odds on 15:10 - May 19 with 2645 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| New Manager: odds on 14:54 - May 19 by DannytheR |
Ronny Delia's popped up in the betting now. |
Never heard of him but just read his Wiki page he sounds mustard. |  |
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