| Just back observations 20:36 - Dec 27 with 13955 views | BlackCrowe |
Not good. Lucky to get away with 1-0 but could've been a different game were it not for pure Stroud for their goal...we'll never know.
Midfield overrun, we couldn't handle their high press (which they do very well) and Willock and Chair were neutralised from the start.
Biggest irritation was not making subs much much sooner, it was obvious to us that 5-10 mins into the second half nothing had changed, the subs should've come then. And btw Uncs over Kakay every time for starting position.
As for Bournemouth's pantomime collapsing....utterly utterly pathetic, the management and the players should be ashamed. But of course won't be. |  |
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| Just back observations on 23:48 - Dec 27 with 3061 views | dannyblue |
| Just back observations on 23:27 - Dec 27 by OldPedro |
He did throw himself to the floor in challenge with Johansen to 'win' a free kick when he knew he was beaten for pace and Johansen was going to get in behind their defence [Post edited 29 Dec 2021 17:56]
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was that him? that was annoying. |  | | |
| Just back observations on 08:03 - Dec 28 with 2689 views | MrSheen |
| Just back observations on 23:48 - Dec 27 by dannyblue |
was that him? that was annoying. |
It was him, but was it Dykes against him? |  | | |
| Just back observations on 08:23 - Dec 28 with 2639 views | WatfordR |
Bournemouth played better on the night, probably deserved the points .We had a good first 15-20 minutes, then faded. Albert came on, and could well have got us a point. We probably suffered from the Covid disruption, and I think our boys need to be cut a bit of slack in that respect.
However, once again, the determining factor, the decisive impact in this game was the rank ineptitude of Stroud. If he does his job, they don't score. Never a free kick, and from the reaction of our lot, should have been a free the other way for the challenge moments earlier. For me, the challenge on JoJo was also a nailed on pen, There were two other very strong shouts for handball where the players reaction certainly suggested at least ball to hand, but as we saw with Sunderland, he doesn't do handball. And those final fifteen minutes or so where we piled on pressure, he'd pretty much given up any pretence at refereeing all together. Not a clue.
That melee at the end, with yellow cards being picked out of a tombola machine was absolutely farcical, and I'll tell you absolutely for certain that little pr1ck Ben Pearson should certainly been off for his part in it all, coming flying in late on with arms and fists flailing.
You'll no doubt also remember from the Sunderland game how everyone was quite clear that, outside of VAR in the Prem, fourth officials can't tell the ref what they've seen on pitch side screens or generally interfere in the decision making process, but we saw last night that wasn't the case with Dozzell's sending off.
I'm fairly sure Clive will have a few words on Stroud in his match report, and I can't find the match report from the game at their place, but I seem to recall him saying something along the lines of "it's no surprise when players start taking matters into their own hands when they see Stroud is doing nothing" and that's exactly what happened last night.
I'll stop short of saying Stroud is bent, I think he's just totally inept, but if the stat that someone posted of Bournemouth winning ten and drawing one of the last eleven games he's reffed for them is right, then someone somewhere needs to have a very close look at what's going on.
I'm fed up watching that useless t0sser ruining our games. |  | | |
| Just back observations on 08:34 - Dec 28 with 2616 views | Juzzie |
Bournemouth may have been the better team but that doesn’t mean it’s “ok” that they won by virtue of a free kick that never was just in the same way Sunderland didn’t lose by virtue of a goal not given.
We have won many games when we were not the better team (play off v Derby and the win at Stamford Bridge two off the cuff examples) and we have lost games when we were the better team, that’s how it goes in football and makes it equally frustrating and enjoyable (depending which end of the stick you’re on).
Games should be decided without wrong interventions of the officials. I get that they are human and imperfect but with Stroud it’s now just getting silly and I can’t believe people are happily accepting the result simply because Bournemouth played better than us.
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| Just back observations on 08:57 - Dec 28 with 2514 views | bosh67 |
I totally agree that bad officialdom can ruin games but there is a basic rule in football. To win games you have to score more goals than the other team, or at least as many. We have been on the end of some bad decisions but it is also about the team having the confidence to shake those off and come back to prove a point. We've actually been very good at doing that overall since MW has been here and it is only over the last few games that the spirit of the comeback has eluded us. Winning games, or not losing them, is ultimately in our hands. To be a better team we have to believe that we can outscore our opponents every time. That again I thought evaded us last night. We know we can do it but it is about belief and confidence. Both of which seemed a little down last night.
All that and Bournemouth simply are a better overall team than us at the moment. But, there is not a lot in it, considering the spend on their team against ours. |  |
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| Just back observations on 09:14 - Dec 28 with 2452 views | Juzzie |
In the case of Sunderland and Bournemouth both teams profited from badly incorrect decisions. Had Bournemouth not been given that free kick the game could have ended 0-0 (but we’ll never know which makes Stroud’s decision worse) which would probably have been deemed a welcomed hard fought point for us.
I’m sick of what is purely inept officiating ruining games. If we were going to lose, fine, but let it be on footballing merit alone. Bournemouth should earn the win themselves, not with help from the officials giving wrong decisions or not controlling players who throw themselves around like salmon on their way to their mating ground.
The win at Stamford Bridge was even more sweeter than just local rivalry because they battered us (particularly in midfield) but all but two of their twenty-gazzilion shots on goal went into row Z. | | | |
| Just back observations on 09:41 - Dec 28 with 2344 views | WatfordR |
Having just seen Warb's post match interview, I think you could reasonably suggest he doesn't think we are on a "level playing field" with Stroud. | | | |
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| Just back observations on 09:55 - Dec 28 with 2262 views | essextaxiboy |
| Just back observations on 08:34 - Dec 28 by Juzzie |
Bournemouth may have been the better team but that doesn’t mean it’s “ok” that they won by virtue of a free kick that never was just in the same way Sunderland didn’t lose by virtue of a goal not given.
We have won many games when we were not the better team (play off v Derby and the win at Stamford Bridge two off the cuff examples) and we have lost games when we were the better team, that’s how it goes in football and makes it equally frustrating and enjoyable (depending which end of the stick you’re on).
Games should be decided without wrong interventions of the officials. I get that they are human and imperfect but with Stroud it’s now just getting silly and I can’t believe people are happily accepting the result simply because Bournemouth played better than us.
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Exactly this , you dont deserve to win a football match because you play better than the opposition .The game is decided on goals scored , missed open goals do not count , shots on target do not count , possession does not count .
We lost that game to a goal conceded from free kick badly defended but that should not have had to be defended at all .
Field was fouled , game is stopped end of . Whatever happens seconds after is irrelevant . |  | | |
| Just back observations on 09:56 - Dec 28 with 2260 views | Stanisgod |
Just think, theres enough games left to get him a couple of times more. |  |
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| Just back observations on 09:58 - Dec 28 with 2263 views | QPRSteve |
I'd like to know how Stroud's stats when "officiating" Bournemouth games matches up against his performances with other clubs. |  | | |
| Just back observations on 10:18 - Dec 28 with 2188 views | paulhoop2 |
Says something when 2 of the team security guys had to go on the pitch to assist Stroud ! Completely lost the game . | |
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| Just back observations on 10:20 - Dec 28 with 2171 views | gazza1 |
We got beat by the better side, sadly they were far superior to us all over the park. We had far too many players well short including, Dykes, Willock, SJ and our saviour when he gets fit again Field. We were very fortunate to only loose by the odd goal.
I do not know if it is a free kick leading up to their goal in these strange days but there was a 'shirt pull' from Field during the incident. | | | |
| Just back observations on 11:24 - Dec 28 with 1941 views | NW5Hoop |
| Just back observations on 22:28 - Dec 27 by CamberleyR |
Bournemouth spent over 60 years in the bottom two divisions before spending three seasons in the old second division in the late 80s. They then didn't spend another season in the second tier until 2013-14 and then got promoted for the first time to the top flight in 2015-16.
So your summation is correct; small club with small tinpot fanbase artificially inflated to a couple of levels above their natural level by their rich Russian owner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AFC_Bournemouth_seasons |
"small club with small tinpot fanbase artificially inflated to a couple of levels above their natural level by their rich Russian owner"
*Looks at size of Loftus Road*
*Looks at our average attendance*
*Looks at our last couple of owners, who just happened to be shit at artificially inflating us, but God knows they tried*
I've never heard Bournemouth fans claiming to be potential Super League members. Pretty sure they know how they got successful. But they're no different from us. [Post edited 28 Dec 2021 11:53]
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| Just back observations on 11:42 - Dec 28 with 1900 views | nix |
| Just back observations on 09:58 - Dec 28 by QPRSteve |
I'd like to know how Stroud's stats when "officiating" Bournemouth games matches up against his performances with other clubs. |
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/keith-stroud/bilanz/schiedsrichter/566/saison_id
This gives you an idea. Equal fifth number of wins when he's reffing compared with other teams, some of which Stroud has reffed twice, and almost three times as often.
Also no red cards awarded to them and 50% more yellow cards awarded against their opponents than against Bournemouth. 🤔 |  | | |
| Just back observations on 12:16 - Dec 28 with 1798 views | CamberleyR |
| Just back observations on 11:42 - Dec 28 by nix |
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/keith-stroud/bilanz/schiedsrichter/566/saison_id
This gives you an idea. Equal fifth number of wins when he's reffing compared with other teams, some of which Stroud has reffed twice, and almost three times as often.
Also no red cards awarded to them and 50% more yellow cards awarded against their opponents than against Bournemouth. 🤔 |
Precisely. Luton Town fan my arse. |  |
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| Just back observations on 12:34 - Dec 28 with 1727 views | QPR_Jim |
| Just back observations on 11:42 - Dec 28 by nix |
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/keith-stroud/bilanz/schiedsrichter/566/saison_id
This gives you an idea. Equal fifth number of wins when he's reffing compared with other teams, some of which Stroud has reffed twice, and almost three times as often.
Also no red cards awarded to them and 50% more yellow cards awarded against their opponents than against Bournemouth. 🤔 |
Never had (let) Bournemouth drop points when he's officiating, a true miracle. |  | | |
| Just back observations on 12:41 - Dec 28 with 1705 views | stowmarketrange |
| Just back observations on 11:42 - Dec 28 by nix |
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/keith-stroud/bilanz/schiedsrichter/566/saison_id
This gives you an idea. Equal fifth number of wins when he's reffing compared with other teams, some of which Stroud has reffed twice, and almost three times as often.
Also no red cards awarded to them and 50% more yellow cards awarded against their opponents than against Bournemouth. 🤔 |
I wonder if there are Far Eastern betting syndicates that are aware of Bournemouth's chances of winning a football match when he refs their games?I think if you had those odds of winning in a casino you’d get banned.
Their odds on winning all 12 of the games he has been in charge of them must be greater than winning the lottery. |  | | |
| Just back observations on 12:49 - Dec 28 with 1675 views | Mick_S |
A Bournemouth view:
Not suggesting that any impropriety has gone on, but our 100% record in games refereed by KS is beginning to look a bit suspicious. 12 games, 12 victories - 1 on a penalty shoot-out. With his local connections, I reckon it's only a matter of time before he is "disqualified" from officiating AFCB games. He's a referee who regularly achieves the impossible and unites sets of opposing supporters in agreement that he has absolutely no idea what he is doing - quite a skill!
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| Just back observations on 13:44 - Dec 28 with 1526 views | T_Block |
Stop this crap.Only results count and Bournemouth were promoted to the premier on the back of a good english manager.Good luck to them. | | | |
| Just back observations on 14:48 - Dec 28 with 1395 views | charmr |
For what it’s worth as a qualified referee I thought stroud went about his job exactly how he was trained to do. Also, and I watched closely, did not think he showed any bias. He lets a lot of pushing and holding go unpunished which is subjective. It’s a contact sport, I played the ball blah blah blah. Get a ref who calls everything and stops the flow still annoys people. Part of the buzz of plying is getting one over on the ref.
Mr S Bowles was quoted that he found it hard to watch football today because the game gets stopped too much. Stanley was always willing to show you the state of his legs even if you didn’t ask him. Go figure?
The gamesmanship is the problem and will never change because a players safety is going to be paramount and the players know it and use it to their advantage. Just wait untill you see your 11 yr old doing it. [Post edited 28 Dec 2021 15:04]
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| Just back observations on 14:51 - Dec 28 with 1379 views | Juzzie |
| Just back observations on 13:44 - Dec 28 by T_Block |
Stop this crap.Only results count and Bournemouth were promoted to the premier on the back of a good english manager.Good luck to them. |
And nothing to do with the massive overspending that resulted in a big FFP fine?
They need to go up before the parachute payment stops as they simply cannot compete within their own means (11,300 capacity stadium) and no money pumped in by a sugar daddy. | | | |
| Just back observations on 14:52 - Dec 28 with 1371 views | Northernr |
I think the idea that Warbs is standing down there with a fully fit Adomah on the bench, watching Kakay play like that and thinking 'I'll give this situation another ten minutes and see if it improves' is a bit of a stretch. The medical team will have told him Adomah could do 20 minutes and therefore 20 minutes is what he did. |  | | |
| Just back observations on 14:56 - Dec 28 with 1347 views | QPROslo |
| Just back observations on 21:08 - Dec 27 by essextaxiboy |
Dunne had a very good game IMO ... |
So did Barbet imo. | | | |
| Just back observations on 15:05 - Dec 28 with 1303 views | Noelmc |
| Just back observations on 12:16 - Dec 28 by CamberleyR |
Precisely. Luton Town fan my arse. |
I would think the chances of being a Luton Town fan having lived anywhere else in the country but Luton are very small indeed. |  | | |
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