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The way I read it they have to refile three sets of accounts by August 18, without the Melnomics work arounds, so that will likely trigger a points deduction then.
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 18:10 - Jul 2 with 16359 views
£100,000 compared to our record fine just about sums it all up.I know we broke the rules by a long way,but haven’t direby just taken the pish almost as much as we did?
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 18:11 - Jul 2 with 16354 views
WRDCFC get away with it again on 18:11 - Jul 2 by LeedsR
I think the link updated when I attached it. They still get to play in the Championship though don’t they, even if the accounts don’t stack up.
Yep, and seeing how long the Football League takes any points deductions on the back of the resubmitted accounts will be deducted for the 2036/37 season
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 18:27 - Jul 2 with 16251 views
WRDCFC get away with it again on 18:21 - Jul 2 by toboboly
Yep, and seeing how long the Football League takes any points deductions on the back of the resubmitted accounts will be deducted for the 2036/37 season
I wonder if fans'll be allowed in for the 2036/7 season ?
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 18:55 - Jul 2 with 16154 views
WRDCFC get away with it again on 18:07 - Jul 2 by Northernr
The way I read it they have to refile three sets of accounts by August 18, without the Melnomics work arounds, so that will likely trigger a points deduction then.
I agree. They'll apply the appropriate punishment should the revised accounts demonstrate a breach of the FFP rules. Until then, it's only speculation as to whether Derby broke them or not and you can't convict without proving your case beyond reasonable doubt.
Derby are a long way from being out of the woods yet.
They had to submit their accounts for the year ending 30/6/20 by the end of Wednesday, but at this moment they still have not done so. More relevant is that they are still to submit the accounts for the year ending 30/6/19. This may be what the EFL are finally able to nail them on. The EFL equivalent to Al Capone being convicted of tax evasion.
The "profit" from the sale of the gound was in their accounts for the year ending 30/6/18, so this is the last time they will benefit from it for FFP. The wheels are grinding extremely slowly, but eventually the EFL will get their man/club!
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 07:43 - Jul 3 with 15433 views
WRDCFC get away with it again on 20:17 - Jul 2 by TomS
I agree. They'll apply the appropriate punishment should the revised accounts demonstrate a breach of the FFP rules. Until then, it's only speculation as to whether Derby broke them or not and you can't convict without proving your case beyond reasonable doubt.
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'beyond a reasonable doubt' is for criminal cases.
This should be a balance of probabilities decision, i.e. is it more likely that they broke the rules or less likely?
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 08:36 - Jul 3 with 15331 views
Of course what they’re now saying is that the already laughably high valuation of their stadium sale which dug them out of the Sht before was actually, wouldn’t you just know it, £30m higher, which probably puts them in the clear.
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 12:37 - Jul 3 with 15003 views
WRDCFC get away with it again on 08:36 - Jul 3 by Northernr
Of course what they’re now saying is that the already laughably high valuation of their stadium sale which dug them out of the Sht before was actually, wouldn’t you just know it, £30m higher, which probably puts them in the clear.
Revaluation reserve? WTF is that?
Seems that if you sell a property to someone you know, you can go back years later and say that it is worth more than you paid so I m calling in more money.
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 15:04 - Jul 3 with 14869 views
Ultimately the number of accounting tricks they pull is irrelevant. Cash is king, and they havent got any left. Mel isnt providing any/hasnt got any left to fund it, and they cant find a new owner with any cash either.
You can see the results of this at the moment with them having no players left and those they have got not getting paid. Just delaying the inevitable.
I like how one guy on the Twitter asks "can we use this to sign players/pay wages?"
No mate, no you cant. It doesnt exist.
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 16:48 - Jul 3 with 14700 views
WRDCFC get away with it again on 15:04 - Jul 3 by slmrstid
Ultimately the number of accounting tricks they pull is irrelevant. Cash is king, and they havent got any left. Mel isnt providing any/hasnt got any left to fund it, and they cant find a new owner with any cash either.
You can see the results of this at the moment with them having no players left and those they have got not getting paid. Just delaying the inevitable.
I like how one guy on the Twitter asks "can we use this to sign players/pay wages?"
No mate, no you cant. It doesnt exist.
Excellent point.
Its the essentially the same one Lee Hoos keeps making - without the owners stumping up £1M every month, we're stuffed.
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 10:02 - Jul 4 with 14370 views
WRDCFC get away with it again on 15:04 - Jul 3 by slmrstid
Ultimately the number of accounting tricks they pull is irrelevant. Cash is king, and they havent got any left. Mel isnt providing any/hasnt got any left to fund it, and they cant find a new owner with any cash either.
You can see the results of this at the moment with them having no players left and those they have got not getting paid. Just delaying the inevitable.
I like how one guy on the Twitter asks "can we use this to sign players/pay wages?"
No mate, no you cant. It doesnt exist.
Agree with you but any potential buyers have probably been 'walking away' because of the state of their books and possible fines or points deductions. This is the latest in their string of desperate attempts to 'keep treading water' and hope the perception of their business improves and their saviour appears.
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 12:40 - Jul 4 with 14216 views
the league hammered luton cos newell spoke out and said the truth about agents and fees , derby have been very lightly fined and it seems the efl don't want to take the point off and send derby down, why? owls got a deduction which sent them down, brum before them. qpr were heavily fined and it was world news, cos we broke new rules trying to compete, oh well, juggling books and accounts is ok then
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 09:23 - Jul 5 with 13763 views
WRDCFC get away with it again on 12:40 - Jul 4 by themodfather
the league hammered luton cos newell spoke out and said the truth about agents and fees , derby have been very lightly fined and it seems the efl don't want to take the point off and send derby down, why? owls got a deduction which sent them down, brum before them. qpr were heavily fined and it was world news, cos we broke new rules trying to compete, oh well, juggling books and accounts is ok then
Why don't you have a look at what's actually going on instead.... the EFL are desperate to do them and everyone else over but (through their own ineptitude) keep getting custard pied in court.
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 10:09 - Jul 5 with 13653 views
WRDCFC get away with it again on 08:36 - Jul 3 by Northernr
Of course what they’re now saying is that the already laughably high valuation of their stadium sale which dug them out of the Sht before was actually, wouldn’t you just know it, £30m higher, which probably puts them in the clear.
Won't they have to pay capital gains on the sale. Not sure if it applies to football stadiums but if so it would be 10-20% of the growth in value.
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 10:40 - Jul 5 with 13603 views
Bearing in mind that Marriot has gone back to Peterborough (after 1 good season for FF DCFC) and they can't afford to renew Waghorn's contract, they are going to be left with Kazim-Richards and Louis Sibley.
I can't see them outside the bottom 3. With/without points deduction.
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WRDCFC get away with it again on 16:17 - Jul 13 with 12178 views
Wayne Rooney is under further scrutiny at Derby after it emerged he was responsible for the injury which has sidelined midfielder Jason Knight for up to 12 weeks.
Rooney, the Derby manager, went in for a challenge on Knight during a training game and left the Republic of Ireland international with an ankle injury which threatens to rule him out for at least two months of the crisis-hit Championship club's season.
The incident occurred at Pennyhill Park, the luxury hotel and spa in Surrey where Derby recently stayed for a pre-season training camp, with Rooney taking part to make up the numbers due to the club's lack of players.
Rooney has only nine registered senior players, with two of those goalkeepers, and the absence of Knight is another damaging blow to Derby's campaign as their legal row with the Football League continues.
It is understood that Rooney's challenge with Knight was a "50-50" and an accident, but it is the 20-year-old academy product who is now facing an extended period out of action.
Rooney has endured a difficult weekend after reporting a range of photographs to Greater Manchester Police which appeared to show him asleep in a hotel room with a group of young women.
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