| Cummings 08:28 - May 23 with 103193 views | waynekerr55 |
Toast, surely? |  |
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| Cummings on 18:06 - May 30 with 2543 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Cummings on 18:01 - May 30 by londonlisa2001 |
Indeed.
I feel angry with them both to be honest.
Equally if they think that schools going back is wrong (I have no idea whether it is or isn’t - I can see both sides) they have to say so. Publicly.
Or allowing shops to open in just over 2 weeks (perhaps a little longer).
The problem is as far as I can see from following a lot of the scientists as I have been doing since the start, cases are now very, very low in the general population apart from a few areas, mainly in the North of England. But remain stubbornly high in care homes, and there’s a problem in some hospital settings. They can’t be honest about it, as they’re trying to hide the ongoing care homes issue. So people think it’s far less safe than it is and none of it makes sense.
Together with the breakdown of trust caused by Cummings and Johnson, it’s a disaster.
But I also believe Wales is doing things badly as well. By keeping a far more stringent set of measures (which is harming a lot of people) than necessary because they still cant get to grips with testing.
At the end of all this, the need for inquiries into governments and advisers on a UK and devolved level is overwhelming. |
Unsurprisingly, I have some sympathy for the advisors. We don’t know, and maybe never will, what they’re advising, when and why. And many of them are hamstrung on what they can say publicly without resigning. Which is a massive step to take.
By the way, you’ve been telling us for a while that there’s very little difference in lockdown measures between England and Wales. Now we have a “far more stringent set of measures”?
But I don’t disagree with your general thrust. When you consider that we knew this was coming, had about three weeks notice of what was happening in Italy, Spain and elsewhere, the handling has been catastrophic. |  |
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| Cummings on 18:17 - May 30 with 2533 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Cummings on 18:06 - May 30 by exiledclaseboy |
Unsurprisingly, I have some sympathy for the advisors. We don’t know, and maybe never will, what they’re advising, when and why. And many of them are hamstrung on what they can say publicly without resigning. Which is a massive step to take.
By the way, you’ve been telling us for a while that there’s very little difference in lockdown measures between England and Wales. Now we have a “far more stringent set of measures”?
But I don’t disagree with your general thrust. When you consider that we knew this was coming, had about three weeks notice of what was happening in Italy, Spain and elsewhere, the handling has been catastrophic. |
Sorry, badly worded as I changed what I was going to say half way though. The measures should have been a reference to Wales and England. The just Wales bit was about stringent messaging which I see as the main difference (distance bit apart).
I don’t think we did have 3 weeks on Italy by the way. I think that’s been one of the problems. It was here far earlier than people thought. |  | | |
| Cummings on 18:20 - May 30 with 2526 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Cummings on 18:17 - May 30 by londonlisa2001 |
Sorry, badly worded as I changed what I was going to say half way though. The measures should have been a reference to Wales and England. The just Wales bit was about stringent messaging which I see as the main difference (distance bit apart).
I don’t think we did have 3 weeks on Italy by the way. I think that’s been one of the problems. It was here far earlier than people thought. |
It probably was but that doesn’t change the fact that even if it was here we knew it was coming and we knew the devastation it would bring. I’m not sure that actually makes sense but I’ve had a few now.  But anyway, hindsight is king as always. | |
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| Cummings on 21:54 - May 30 with 2436 views | longlostjack |
| Cummings on 17:31 - May 30 by londonlisa2001 |
Well done to Jonathan Van Tam for not beating around the bush and stating that Cummings was wrong.
The first to have the guts to do so.
Also for reminding people of their personal responsibility (which many seem to be forgetting).
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My favourite expert from the beginning. He’s got that “don’t mess with me” look and a straightforward talker. [Post edited 30 May 2020 21:56]
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| Cummings on 19:45 - May 31 with 2303 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Cummings on 17:36 - May 30 by exiledclaseboy |
Aye that made me smile. I wonder how long his ticking off lasted. |
Jenny Harries weighed in today as well. | |
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| Cummings on 00:09 - Jun 1 with 2236 views | builthjack |
Johnson says Cummings is in the last chance saloon. What a prat. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Cummings on 00:46 - Jun 1 with 2204 views | Kerouac |
So the police are happy that he didn't break the rules,
One of the two 'witnesses' did a 250 mile round trip himself,
the other has admitted to telling lies and doctoring info on an app (but it's ok, it was only a JOKE...because lying and manufacturing evidence in order to get somebody sacked is very funny apparently).
In other news the BBC has admitted that their 'journalist' Emily Maitlis is biased.
It appears she is free to carry on in her job as the presenter of their flagship political show though.
I wonder if he'll start suing people. Starting with the 'news'papers.
Funny how there are many Labour and SNP politicians who are guilty of the same behaviour as Cummings yet most of them have not been removed by the leadership who demands Cummings' head.
…and still some people lap it up.
The thing that really turns my stomach though is the bullshit about Cummings must go otherwise the public will no longer follow government's message...the people who blew this up and have spent every waking minute trying to whip the public up since ARE THE VERY PEOPLE RISKING PUBLIC HEALTH BY DESTROYING PUBLIC FAITH IN GOVERNMENT MESSAGES (which are messages crafted by the scientists and experts in public health after all).
...and all as they hide behind this pretence that they give a single shite about those who work for the NHS. [Post edited 1 Jun 2020 0:48]
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| Cummings on 01:02 - Jun 1 with 2201 views | JackSomething |
| Cummings on 00:46 - Jun 1 by Kerouac |
So the police are happy that he didn't break the rules,
One of the two 'witnesses' did a 250 mile round trip himself,
the other has admitted to telling lies and doctoring info on an app (but it's ok, it was only a JOKE...because lying and manufacturing evidence in order to get somebody sacked is very funny apparently).
In other news the BBC has admitted that their 'journalist' Emily Maitlis is biased.
It appears she is free to carry on in her job as the presenter of their flagship political show though.
I wonder if he'll start suing people. Starting with the 'news'papers.
Funny how there are many Labour and SNP politicians who are guilty of the same behaviour as Cummings yet most of them have not been removed by the leadership who demands Cummings' head.
…and still some people lap it up.
The thing that really turns my stomach though is the bullshit about Cummings must go otherwise the public will no longer follow government's message...the people who blew this up and have spent every waking minute trying to whip the public up since ARE THE VERY PEOPLE RISKING PUBLIC HEALTH BY DESTROYING PUBLIC FAITH IN GOVERNMENT MESSAGES (which are messages crafted by the scientists and experts in public health after all).
...and all as they hide behind this pretence that they give a single shite about those who work for the NHS. [Post edited 1 Jun 2020 0:48]
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Aye aye, Mr Angry's had a shandy.
Your last paragraph would be more accurate if it was about Dominic Cummings. Destroying public faith in government messages is a hell of a lot easier when one of the most senior people in the government ignores them. |  |
| You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help. |
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| Cummings on 01:09 - Jun 1 with 2185 views | Kerouac |
| Cummings on 01:02 - Jun 1 by JackSomething |
Aye aye, Mr Angry's had a shandy.
Your last paragraph would be more accurate if it was about Dominic Cummings. Destroying public faith in government messages is a hell of a lot easier when one of the most senior people in the government ignores them. |
Nobody in the general public would have ever known about his decision for his family (like you all made decisions for your families) without the intervention of those who wish to play politics during a national crisis and use it as an opportunity to remove a figure who had long been demonised by the left.
You're not fooling anybody you tossers 
I for one will not vote for a party other than the Tories until the other parties can find some grown ups for me to vote for. | |
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| Cummings on 07:07 - Jun 1 with 2101 views | 3swan |
| Cummings on 00:09 - Jun 1 by builthjack |
Johnson says Cummings is in the last chance saloon. What a prat. |
If any of the recent revelations as to the cottage he stayed at being his, with no planning permission and no council tax paid, means he has to go, if of course Boris is a man of his word. | | | |
| Cummings on 07:18 - Jun 1 with 2093 views | Best_loser |
| Cummings on 01:09 - Jun 1 by Kerouac |
Nobody in the general public would have ever known about his decision for his family (like you all made decisions for your families) without the intervention of those who wish to play politics during a national crisis and use it as an opportunity to remove a figure who had long been demonised by the left.
You're not fooling anybody you tossers
I for one will not vote for a party other than the Tories until the other parties can find some grown ups for me to vote for. |
Those damn people exposing the rule maker as a rule breaker
Your such a little tory to$$er
It's ironic given your user name that your so upset that Cummings was caught on the road |  | | |
| Cummings on 08:49 - Jun 1 with 2033 views | Pegojack |
| Cummings on 01:09 - Jun 1 by Kerouac |
Nobody in the general public would have ever known about his decision for his family (like you all made decisions for your families) without the intervention of those who wish to play politics during a national crisis and use it as an opportunity to remove a figure who had long been demonised by the left.
You're not fooling anybody you tossers
I for one will not vote for a party other than the Tories until the other parties can find some grown ups for me to vote for. |
Move On, Vote Labour. |  | | |
| Cummings on 09:00 - Jun 1 with 2026 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Cummings on 01:09 - Jun 1 by Kerouac |
Nobody in the general public would have ever known about his decision for his family (like you all made decisions for your families) without the intervention of those who wish to play politics during a national crisis and use it as an opportunity to remove a figure who had long been demonised by the left.
You're not fooling anybody you tossers
I for one will not vote for a party other than the Tories until the other parties can find some grown ups for me to vote for. |
Still supporting unelected bureaucrats I see.
How very consistent. |  |
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| Cummings on 09:45 - Jun 1 with 1967 views | Joe_bradshaw |
The Labour MP resigned her junior whips post. Did the right thing after breaking the rules that Cummings was instrumental in drafting.
Cummings broke the rules that he was instrumental in drafting by going to the castle on his wife's birthday as confirmed by the police. He also risked his family's life by driving with defective eyesight which breaks the road traffic act 1988. It's also utter lunacy.
Another supporter of unelected bureaucrats. How very consistent of you. | |
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| Cummings on 11:17 - Jun 1 with 1912 views | sherpajacob |
the left wing teacher witnessed the trip to Durham that Cummings himself corroborated from the garden of Number 10.
it was someone else that made up the 2nd trip.
You can apologise now Pikey.
all other politicians / senior figures caught breaking rules have apologised and/or resigned, except for Cummings he claims he did no wrong. The police say if they'd seen him on his trip to barnard castle they would have sent him home. So if DC is so adamant he was in the right, surely he would have ignored the police officers instructions and carried on.
Interesting that Cummings felt he had to get back to work because he was needed, But Raab who was acting PM at the time had no clue where he was and didn't even ask about his whereabouts. Just goes to show Cummings is important to Johnson and no one else. |  |
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| Cummings on 11:21 - Jun 1 with 1903 views | sherpajacob |
| Cummings on 01:09 - Jun 1 by Kerouac |
Nobody in the general public would have ever known about his decision for his family (like you all made decisions for your families) without the intervention of those who wish to play politics during a national crisis and use it as an opportunity to remove a figure who had long been demonised by the left.
You're not fooling anybody you tossers
I for one will not vote for a party other than the Tories until the other parties can find some grown ups for me to vote for. |
those calling for him to go range from the far left across the spectrum , including bishops and scientists, all the way to right wing hard man Steve baker.
Those defending him come from the very narrow, "we've got to protect our phoney baloney jobs" brigade in thrall to Johnson | |
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| Cummings on 11:26 - Jun 1 with 1894 views | vetchonian |
| Cummings on 22:59 - May 28 by Dr_Winston |
It's a parody account. |
Like our parody government and prime minister! | |
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| Cummings on 11:56 - Jun 1 with 1867 views | waynekerr55 |
Have you been watered this week, Pike? | |
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| Cummings on 13:45 - Jun 1 with 1826 views | Fireboy2 |
Isnt it strange that now it looks like the invertebrate will get away with it the tory sympathisers are putting their heads above the parapet. |  | | |
| Cummings on 14:06 - Jun 1 with 1806 views | sainthelens |
I get why you'd say that, cos in yer defence you are fckn idiot. |  | | |
| Cummings on 14:54 - Jun 1 with 1766 views | Highjack |
| Cummings on 18:06 - May 30 by exiledclaseboy |
Unsurprisingly, I have some sympathy for the advisors. We don’t know, and maybe never will, what they’re advising, when and why. And many of them are hamstrung on what they can say publicly without resigning. Which is a massive step to take.
By the way, you’ve been telling us for a while that there’s very little difference in lockdown measures between England and Wales. Now we have a “far more stringent set of measures”?
But I don’t disagree with your general thrust. When you consider that we knew this was coming, had about three weeks notice of what was happening in Italy, Spain and elsewhere, the handling has been catastrophic. |
For every health advisor that tells them “if you open up too soon then more people will die unnecessarily!” there will be about twenty financial advisors screaming in the other ear “if you don’t open up immediately the economy will suffer!”
Which set of advisors will the Government lean towards I wonder? Lives or money? |  |
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| Cummings on 16:33 - Jun 1 with 1697 views | legoman |
| Cummings on 11:56 - Jun 1 by waynekerr55 |
Have you been watered this week, Pike? |
Don't tell him Pike! |  |
| "M'sieur, you said your dog did not bite!"
"That's not my dog" |
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| Cummings on 19:05 - Jun 1 with 1643 views | Catullus |
| Cummings on 00:46 - Jun 1 by Kerouac |
So the police are happy that he didn't break the rules,
One of the two 'witnesses' did a 250 mile round trip himself,
the other has admitted to telling lies and doctoring info on an app (but it's ok, it was only a JOKE...because lying and manufacturing evidence in order to get somebody sacked is very funny apparently).
In other news the BBC has admitted that their 'journalist' Emily Maitlis is biased.
It appears she is free to carry on in her job as the presenter of their flagship political show though.
I wonder if he'll start suing people. Starting with the 'news'papers.
Funny how there are many Labour and SNP politicians who are guilty of the same behaviour as Cummings yet most of them have not been removed by the leadership who demands Cummings' head.
…and still some people lap it up.
The thing that really turns my stomach though is the bullshit about Cummings must go otherwise the public will no longer follow government's message...the people who blew this up and have spent every waking minute trying to whip the public up since ARE THE VERY PEOPLE RISKING PUBLIC HEALTH BY DESTROYING PUBLIC FAITH IN GOVERNMENT MESSAGES (which are messages crafted by the scientists and experts in public health after all).
...and all as they hide behind this pretence that they give a single shite about those who work for the NHS. [Post edited 1 Jun 2020 0:48]
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Except that he did break the rules. It's not justification that Labour haven't sacked anybody who broke the rules, it just reflects very badly on Starmer as well, makes him look like a hypocrite.
At least some of the Labour lot apologised, Cummings wouldn't even do that.
Bojo says Cummings is in last chance saloon well if he is they should already have rung time on him. | |
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