| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 23:40 - Jan 18 with 1991 views | Chief |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 23:29 - Jan 18 by Oneill_77 |
It does seem like that superficially but it's a tough one to call.
Thing is the coaching team get to see the squad day in. They see stuff we don't. No matter how clever we think we are, we are at best insightful onlookers from afar. I doubt many posters have had the privilege of playing or coaching at this level, so even tougher to gauge.
My understanding is that the squad is currently buzzing.
Let's hope they are doing their best to continue to keep the squad engaged, despite how it may look to us outsiders. |
Byers / Grimes must be absolutely bossing it in training then! |  |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 23:52 - Jan 18 with 1941 views | jasper_T |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 23:29 - Jan 18 by Oneill_77 |
It does seem like that superficially but it's a tough one to call.
Thing is the coaching team get to see the squad day in. They see stuff we don't. No matter how clever we think we are, we are at best insightful onlookers from afar. I doubt many posters have had the privilege of playing or coaching at this level, so even tougher to gauge.
My understanding is that the squad is currently buzzing.
Let's hope they are doing their best to continue to keep the squad engaged, despite how it may look to us outsiders. |
At the end of the day it's the games that matter though, isn't it. Doesn't matter how skilful or professional or determined a player is in training if it's not reflected on the pitch.
You never wanted DJ on your team in training according to Oli. Part of the reason Shrewsbury sent him home. |  | | |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 07:55 - Jan 19 with 1626 views | TimTtam |
Only managed to see minutes 25 to 45, and then the highlights. But it looked like we got back to playing actual 'football' and were willing to attack more. Both goals were clinical and it was great to see some goals scored from open play.
Gallagher is going to be huge for us and our promotion chances. I know he plays in the no.10 role, but he seemed to drop back into the midfield quite a bit. He's got quality, but also is willing to make a tackle. Essentially he's a more skilled Fulton.
The front 4 of Brewster, Celina, Gallagher and Ayew looks as good as anyone in the league. The back 4 is settled in terms of LB and RB, and VDH & Rodon will be back soon to replace our already skilled CBs. While I thought Bidwell was a trier, it's obvious now that he's a backup LB.
Midfield is still the question mark. I thought the point of Gallagher coming in was to play alongside Grimes. Personally I'd go with 4-3-3 and slide Gallagher into CM with Grimes and Byers/Fulton/Carrol.
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Roberts . VDH . Rodon . Naughton
.....Carrol . Gallagher . Grimes
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 08:33 - Jan 19 with 1577 views | sP7qupUf |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 07:55 - Jan 19 by TimTtam |
Only managed to see minutes 25 to 45, and then the highlights. But it looked like we got back to playing actual 'football' and were willing to attack more. Both goals were clinical and it was great to see some goals scored from open play.
Gallagher is going to be huge for us and our promotion chances. I know he plays in the no.10 role, but he seemed to drop back into the midfield quite a bit. He's got quality, but also is willing to make a tackle. Essentially he's a more skilled Fulton.
The front 4 of Brewster, Celina, Gallagher and Ayew looks as good as anyone in the league. The back 4 is settled in terms of LB and RB, and VDH & Rodon will be back soon to replace our already skilled CBs. While I thought Bidwell was a trier, it's obvious now that he's a backup LB.
Midfield is still the question mark. I thought the point of Gallagher coming in was to play alongside Grimes. Personally I'd go with 4-3-3 and slide Gallagher into CM with Grimes and Byers/Fulton/Carrol.
.................Woodman
Roberts . VDH . Rodon . Naughton
.....Carrol . Gallagher . Grimes
.......Ayew . Brewster . Celina |
Carrol!!!! Are you serious? | | | |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 08:43 - Jan 19 with 1553 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 20:12 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
Byers could have and should have done more to get to the ball and player resulting in their goal
I still dont see what he brings to the team he is static never looks up and 80 % of the time passes back. |
He made the tokenest of gesturesvto get into position, was easily beaten (he didn't make any effort at all) just shrugged his shoulders and did a pointy type thing. Get rid FFS |  |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 08:44 - Jan 19 with 1557 views | Dr_Winston |
Time and time again they found space down the right hand side. Roberts was all over the place. |  |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 09:22 - Jan 19 with 1489 views | Fireboy2 |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 08:43 - Jan 19 by Brynmill_Jack |
He made the tokenest of gesturesvto get into position, was easily beaten (he didn't make any effort at all) just shrugged his shoulders and did a pointy type thing. Get rid FFS |
Yep saw all that, plus he turned his back on the scorer instead of trying to stand up and stop him therefore giving him the chance to shimmy and put the ball on his left, you know the rest. |  | | |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 09:23 - Jan 19 with 1494 views | gordondg |
Credit their left back going forward,impressed. | | | |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 09:25 - Jan 19 with 1489 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 20:56 - Jan 18 by TNT |
We're 5th in The Championship, and no-one seems happy.
Is it because we've come 'down' to this, whereas people were happy when we came 'up' to this? |
Strange everyone was happy with Potter at this stage of season last year even though we were mid table and had James and McBurnie. | |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 09:32 - Jan 19 with 1470 views | Chief |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 09:25 - Jan 19 by felixstowe_jack |
Strange everyone was happy with Potter at this stage of season last year even though we were mid table and had James and McBurnie. |
I think that was because there was a sense that he was getting the very best out of the squad he had | |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 10:21 - Jan 19 with 1393 views | TimTtam |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 08:33 - Jan 19 by sP7qupUf |
Carrol!!!! Are you serious? |
It was a tough choice. All 3 (Byers, Fulton, Carrol) have flaws. I'd pick Carrol based on the talent he has shown in the past. Byers is hot or cold (and when it's cold, it's freezing), and Fulton doesn't really excite me. It'll be a spot which each of them will hold for a few games I'm sure. | |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 10:44 - Jan 19 with 1358 views | vetchonian |
Did anyone else notice Cooper and Routledge having some sort of “spat” as the team walked off.
Cooper seemed to want to give Routledge a hug but Wayne kept pushing him away | |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 11:17 - Jan 19 with 1307 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 08:44 - Jan 19 by Dr_Winston |
Time and time again they found space down the right hand side. Roberts was all over the place. |
Absolutely spot on.
Roberts’ positioning was terrible throughout and most of their attacks came down his side as a result. He gets sucked into the centre all the time and then has to rush out which makes him easy to beat. He needs a kick up the backside and has done for months. |  |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 11:27 - Jan 19 with 1288 views | vetchonian |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 11:17 - Jan 19 by Joe_bradshaw |
Absolutely spot on.
Roberts’ positioning was terrible throughout and most of their attacks came down his side as a result. He gets sucked into the centre all the time and then has to rush out which makes him easy to beat. He needs a kick up the backside and has done for months. |
He might be good getting forwards but his ability to defend is questionable
Watch him closely always backs off his man often turning his back that’s led to a few goals scored against us this season | |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 11:31 - Jan 19 with 1282 views | AguycalledJack |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 11:27 - Jan 19 by vetchonian |
He might be good getting forwards but his ability to defend is questionable
Watch him closely always backs off his man often turning his back that’s led to a few goals scored against us this season |
Never stops the cross. | | | |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 11:47 - Jan 19 with 1253 views | jasper_T |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 09:25 - Jan 19 by felixstowe_jack |
Strange everyone was happy with Potter at this stage of season last year even though we were mid table and had James and McBurnie. |
Dunno, there were a few sour faces in December after we'd been turned over by a few teams, and then the couple of capitulations at the end of the year. But it felt like we'd found the right formula in January and started looking like a real side for the rest of the season.
Potter did get the benefit of expectations being extremely low with all the youth players half our fans hadn't heard of being involved in the squad. Routs and Dyer not being available for regular selection as well meant his squad was a lot thinner and less proven than what we have now. Courtney Baker-Richardson made 17 appearances - Cooper's signings Kalulu and Peterson have only made 12 so far combined. | | | |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:06 - Jan 19 with 1218 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 22:59 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston |
Maybe.
For me it seems like Cooper has his favourites that get unlimited game time no matter how badly they play whilst others get one game in six and are then cast to the periphery if they don't immediately pull up trees.
It's not a good way to keep a squad engaged. |
No it certainly is not. This is where the chasm between coach and manager starts to manifest itself with Cooper. If he can sort this out as part of his learning curve then great. | |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:09 - Jan 19 with 1213 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 11:27 - Jan 19 by vetchonian |
He might be good getting forwards but his ability to defend is questionable
Watch him closely always backs off his man often turning his back that’s led to a few goals scored against us this season |
Not all that good getting forward either.
His development has stagnated significantly, and it's not down to Cooper. The malaise started setting in last season. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:10 - Jan 19 with 1205 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 08:33 - Jan 19 by sP7qupUf |
Carrol!!!! Are you serious? |
Offers a lot more than Byers ever will. With Gallagher there's no room for a fancy dan. Need a grafter and Carroll has far more graft in him than Byers ever will. | |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:18 - Jan 19 with 1193 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 11:17 - Jan 19 by Joe_bradshaw |
Absolutely spot on.
Roberts’ positioning was terrible throughout and most of their attacks came down his side as a result. He gets sucked into the centre all the time and then has to rush out which makes him easy to beat. He needs a kick up the backside and has done for months. |
Who is supposed to be his support when being attacked by 2 players.
Wouldn't be the non existent winger would it? | | | |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:27 - Jan 19 with 1176 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:18 - Jan 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
Who is supposed to be his support when being attacked by 2 players.
Wouldn't be the non existent winger would it? |
Ayew.
Doesn’t excuse disgraceful positioning though. | |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:36 - Jan 19 with 1165 views | sainthelens |
Must be getting interesting, just found myself jumping out my seat cos Luton just took lead at Forest.
Must stop getting ahead of myself. |  | | |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:37 - Jan 19 with 1163 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:10 - Jan 19 by Brynmill_Jack |
Offers a lot more than Byers ever will. With Gallagher there's no room for a fancy dan. Need a grafter and Carroll has far more graft in him than Byers ever will. |
Funny how Whoscored.com doesn't agree with you, they rate Byers at 6.6 against Carrolls 6.2.
Must be something to do with the 5 goals Byers scored to Carrolls 0.
Plus his passing rate is better, as is his tackling & clearances.
Personally I think both of them are too lightweight, even though they can both be skillful.
The mix of Grimes with Carroll or Byers should not be used. | | | |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:44 - Jan 19 with 1156 views | jack_lord |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 12:10 - Jan 19 by Brynmill_Jack |
Offers a lot more than Byers ever will. With Gallagher there's no room for a fancy dan. Need a grafter and Carroll has far more graft in him than Byers ever will. |
The problem with Carroll is he is second, only to McKay in the sh1thouse challenge. Though he is a bit dirty with fouls when he gets skimmed.
Shame as there is a class player in there. |  |
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| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 14:39 - Jan 19 with 1067 views | TimTtam |
| The Official Swansea City vs Wigan Athletic Match Thread on 10:44 - Jan 19 by vetchonian |
Did anyone else notice Cooper and Routledge having some sort of “spat” as the team walked off.
Cooper seemed to want to give Routledge a hug but Wayne kept pushing him away |
Routs spoke very highly of Cooper in an interview less than 2 weeks ago. Could've been a joke. Could you see their expressions? | |
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