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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover 21:40 - Sep 10 with 9445 viewsCooperman

New cameras have gone up in the last week on the stretch of M4 between PT and the BF flyover.

No idea if they are live but there’s an absence of ‘camera not in use’ signs.

You’ve been warned.

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 14:05 - Sep 11 with 2135 viewsWingstandwood

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 13:47 - Sep 11 by Ace_Jack

I'm sure there used to be a flashing warning sign on the road. Almost certain. Has it been removed?


There is flashing speed notification on the Grovesend to Pontardulais route. Not aware of any on the speed camera van route, not seen it in that area particular of Gorseinon itself. Did not appear to be one there the last time I traveled that way.

Got nothing wrong with supplementary use of speed camera vans providing there is adequate signage to avoid deliberate revenue raising intent. Those flashing speed notification signs are superb because they make most people think about their speed and they tend to slow down anyhow upon seeing them. Far more accident preventable than people jamming on their brakes, the speed camera van by the junction is placed in lesser preferable spot.

Argus!

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 14:48 - Sep 11 with 2100 viewscontroversial_jack

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 11:26 - Sep 11 by Cooperman

I am slowly but surely getting into the habit of using the train when I’m heading east alone.

Swansea to London return can be achieved for £60 if planned correctly and the GWR service is a pretty good standard (please don’t confuse my comment with local services which is a different matter altogether). Journey time also comparable at three hours with the added bonus of Wi-fi and a more relaxing journey. Admittedly it’s not necessarily cost effective when travelling with company.


Not such a good price if you are a couple or a family
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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 15:20 - Sep 11 with 2076 viewslifelong

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 07:41 - Sep 11 by Dr_Winston

Inappropriate speed kills. That and bad driving. Perhaps they should be making it harder for bad drivers to get/keep licences than make a stretch of road that was perfectly fine at 70mph for years a 50 zone.

Add Carmarthen Road to that list. Absolutely no reason whatsoever for it to be a 30mph limit.


Can’t see how Carmarthen Road can be anything but a 30mph speed limit. It runs mainly through a very busy built up area and contains numerous traffic signals and junctions, it would be dangerous for it to be otherwise.
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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 15:23 - Sep 11 with 2076 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 22:10 - Sep 10 by controversial_jack

If it's to limit pollution, there's hardly anyone living near that stretch of motorway. It's a revenue making scheme


Can electric vehicle drivers still drive at 70 as they do not emit any exhaust fumes.

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 15:27 - Sep 11 with 2071 viewsHighjack

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 15:23 - Sep 11 by felixstowe_jack

Can electric vehicle drivers still drive at 70 as they do not emit any exhaust fumes.


No because they are more likely to be vegetarians which means they fart more.

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 15:40 - Sep 11 with 2060 viewsNeath_Jack

Some of the reasons in this thread 😂😂

If you need flashing signs etc to not break the speed limit, go hand your licence in to the DVLA and save the rest of us from your incompetence.

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 16:42 - Sep 11 with 2028 viewsCooperman

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 15:40 - Sep 11 by Neath_Jack

Some of the reasons in this thread 😂😂

If you need flashing signs etc to not break the speed limit, go hand your licence in to the DVLA and save the rest of us from your incompetence.


Some drivers need a penalty notice before they slow down.

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 18:47 - Sep 11 with 1972 viewsJackfath

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 07:41 - Sep 11 by Dr_Winston

Inappropriate speed kills. That and bad driving. Perhaps they should be making it harder for bad drivers to get/keep licences than make a stretch of road that was perfectly fine at 70mph for years a 50 zone.

Add Carmarthen Road to that list. Absolutely no reason whatsoever for it to be a 30mph limit.


The fact that it's lined with houses may have something to do with it?

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 19:38 - Sep 11 with 1945 viewsAndy1300

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 21:58 - Sep 10 by Darran

Nonsense. Utter fuçking nonsense. There’s no need for the stretch to be 50mph it’s just another money making exercise.


Due to the number and close proximity of junctions and the fact that it’s elevated means there is a need for a 50 limit

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 19:42 - Sep 11 with 1941 viewsperchrockjack

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 20:39 - Sep 11 with 1917 viewsmonmouth

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 19:42 - Sep 11 by perchrockjack

We have all sinned and gone too fast.


I haven’t

I’ve never lied neither.

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 20:48 - Sep 11 with 1897 viewsladyjack

Carmarthen Road should definitely be 30 mph, its a built up area with houses, schools, businesses etc close to the road.
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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 13:19 - Sep 13 with 1729 viewsrockinjk

The problem with speed cameras is that they catch decent drivers

The moron who tail gates then speds off at 130mph never gets caught

I’m not anti speed cameras in some cases but they are flawed
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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 13:47 - Sep 13 with 1714 viewslifelong

Drove to Newport and back yesterday, left home at 11.30am got home at 4pm. The volume of traffic, in both directions, was incredible, especially the section of motorway mentioned in this thread.
It’s no pleasure driving these days.
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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 13:56 - Sep 13 with 1713 viewsPhil_S

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 13:19 - Sep 13 by rockinjk

The problem with speed cameras is that they catch decent drivers

The moron who tail gates then speds off at 130mph never gets caught

I’m not anti speed cameras in some cases but they are flawed


So the guy breaking the speed limit and gets caught is a decent guy

But the guys who breaks the speed limit and doesnt get caught is a moron

I'm seeing your logic...
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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 14:19 - Sep 13 with 1702 viewsperchrockjack

Biggest gripe I have is middle lane cruisers. Its rank bad driving . No less than that.
Tail gating is also becoming worse.

Drivers should be aware of braking distances but few are,let alone the consequences of not allowing more distance in rainy conditions. A car is a man s cage,and not to be interfered with.

Most men would rather be called a bad sh@g than a bad driver.

It says much.

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 15:11 - Sep 13 with 1672 viewscontroversial_jack

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 14:19 - Sep 13 by perchrockjack

Biggest gripe I have is middle lane cruisers. Its rank bad driving . No less than that.
Tail gating is also becoming worse.

Drivers should be aware of braking distances but few are,let alone the consequences of not allowing more distance in rainy conditions. A car is a man s cage,and not to be interfered with.

Most men would rather be called a bad sh@g than a bad driver.

It says much.


If the speed limit is set to reduce pollution then it's not a safety issue.Just saying!
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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 15:16 - Sep 13 with 1666 viewsperchrockjack

I'm not convinced of that argument.

Pollution is nothing compared with the thick,noxious , poisonous stuff that was evident in bygone days.

It's not ,by the way,slagging off Swansea. Its a fact.

I was brought up in a large ,heavily industrialised town that provided work for the majority.

Now,it's gone and the industrila fumes have gone only to be replaced with that from increased car ownership.

British men will give up anything but their cars.

fact

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 23:08 - Sep 13 with 1608 viewsrockinjk

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 13:56 - Sep 13 by Phil_S

So the guy breaking the speed limit and gets caught is a decent guy

But the guys who breaks the speed limit and doesnt get caught is a moron

I'm seeing your logic...


You can’t compare being slightly over the limit to someone driving 130 mph

It’s not comparable
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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 09:50 - Sep 14 with 1527 viewsBDS

I’ve driven this stretch a few times recently and each time seen drivers braking hard when spotting the new cameras. Then slowing right down to try and lower their speed back to the required average. Bound to be a few tail end accidents over the next few months.
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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 09:52 - Sep 14 with 1525 viewsperchrockjack

Drivers invariably do not allow enough space between their vehicle and that in front.

I assume ALL fellow drivers are complete kunts and deaf ,dumb and blind.

If you are a motor cyclist,it's a good mantra.

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 14:45 - Sep 14 with 1468 viewsbluey_the_blue

Those who do leave enough space then find cars cutting into that gap, causing them to slow down to maintain gap... rinse and repeat.
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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 14:48 - Sep 14 with 1466 viewsperchrockjack

Well, that cannot be helped with the dickheads we have o the roads.However, it is a drivers responsibility to maintain a safe gap. Driving isnt easy .It's an often difficult challenge and one that is often best devoid of radio ot text messages. Utter and complete concentration and you have a better chance of avoiding death.

Make allowances for the abject cretins out there in fook off cars they cannot drive.

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Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 14:22 - Sep 15 with 1352 viewsPhil_S

Average speed cameras - PT to B.Ferry flyover on 23:08 - Sep 13 by rockinjk

You can’t compare being slightly over the limit to someone driving 130 mph

It’s not comparable


It was you that raised the comparison 😂
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