| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 16:31 - Jun 20 with 1283 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 12:52 - Jun 20 by pikeypaul |
Contract not valid?
Despite being paraded as signed.
If he had scored that weekend would you have accepted the goal or would you still have said he was not our player?
Every scum fan knows they had signed him and are now disgustingly trying to use his death to shit out of paying.
Cardiff’s name is now scum throughout France and Argentina and probably the rest of the footballing world.
FIFA will have the final say on if he was signed or not not Bluey. [Post edited 20 Jun 2019 12:54]
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| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 17:17 - Jun 20 with 1239 views | exhmrc1 |
Duty of care You arrange a flight though a pilot with over 22,000 flying hours who has flown all types of planes ranging from 747s to single engine planes. The same guy who has flown single engine planes across the atlantic, gives talks on aviation and is an aviation consultant and expert. This person thinks the flight can be done in this type of plane and has regularly flown the likes of jockeys and footballers in his plane including Bafe Gomis with us. Gomis by the is an international which Sala wasn't. Mckay's duty of care ends with making sure he hires someone suitable which unquestionably he did. He cannot be blamed that the person he booked then sublet the journey to a mate just like if you had booked a plane you couldnt be blamed if the pilot was under the influence. He clearly acted in good faith.
The accident could have happened on a passenger plane or a car to the airport. Accidents happen in Boeing planes if you havent noticed.
Mckay tried to help Sala to lessen his journey time. Shame that you are so biased that you cannot see further than your nose. |  | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 17:21 - Jun 20 with 1234 views | bluey_the_blue |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 17:17 - Jun 20 by exhmrc1 |
Duty of care You arrange a flight though a pilot with over 22,000 flying hours who has flown all types of planes ranging from 747s to single engine planes. The same guy who has flown single engine planes across the atlantic, gives talks on aviation and is an aviation consultant and expert. This person thinks the flight can be done in this type of plane and has regularly flown the likes of jockeys and footballers in his plane including Bafe Gomis with us. Gomis by the is an international which Sala wasn't. Mckay's duty of care ends with making sure he hires someone suitable which unquestionably he did. He cannot be blamed that the person he booked then sublet the journey to a mate just like if you had booked a plane you couldnt be blamed if the pilot was under the influence. He clearly acted in good faith.
The accident could have happened on a passenger plane or a car to the airport. Accidents happen in Boeing planes if you havent noticed.
Mckay tried to help Sala to lessen his journey time. Shame that you are so biased that you cannot see further than your nose. |
You really show your ignorance.
1) No professional pilot has made he claim the flight could be done in those weather conditions, in that plane, with a pilot like Ibbotson.
2) McKay in his wonderful pitch email made it plain he didn't give a sh1t about Sala.
3) McKay stated that there would be no cost to Sala. He was paying. Guess what? It was an illegal commercial flight, something the pilot industry has been up in arms about for years.
4) It was an entirely avoidable accident.
Maybe your nose is so big it's imparing your ability to understand the incident. You're not Huw are you? | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:27 - Jun 20 with 1182 views | Highjack |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 17:21 - Jun 20 by bluey_the_blue |
You really show your ignorance.
1) No professional pilot has made he claim the flight could be done in those weather conditions, in that plane, with a pilot like Ibbotson.
2) McKay in his wonderful pitch email made it plain he didn't give a sh1t about Sala.
3) McKay stated that there would be no cost to Sala. He was paying. Guess what? It was an illegal commercial flight, something the pilot industry has been up in arms about for years.
4) It was an entirely avoidable accident.
Maybe your nose is so big it's imparing your ability to understand the incident. You're not Huw are you? |
1. That flight was being made 100 years ago in worse conditions in sopwith camels. |  |
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| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:30 - Jun 20 with 1174 views | bluey_the_blue |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:27 - Jun 20 by Highjack |
1. That flight was being made 100 years ago in worse conditions in sopwith camels. |
1. In case you'd not noticed, health and safety has moved on since then. | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:30 - Jun 20 with 1174 views | exhmrc1 |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 17:21 - Jun 20 by bluey_the_blue |
You really show your ignorance.
1) No professional pilot has made he claim the flight could be done in those weather conditions, in that plane, with a pilot like Ibbotson.
2) McKay in his wonderful pitch email made it plain he didn't give a sh1t about Sala.
3) McKay stated that there would be no cost to Sala. He was paying. Guess what? It was an illegal commercial flight, something the pilot industry has been up in arms about for years.
4) It was an entirely avoidable accident.
Maybe your nose is so big it's imparing your ability to understand the incident. You're not Huw are you? |
No im not Huw. Are you Vinnie or on his payroll. Why do you keep spreading Cardiff City's nonsense on a Swansea City Board. People on here can see through your nonsense. | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:37 - Jun 20 with 1160 views | bluey_the_blue |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:30 - Jun 20 by exhmrc1 |
No im not Huw. Are you Vinnie or on his payroll. Why do you keep spreading Cardiff City's nonsense on a Swansea City Board. People on here can see through your nonsense. |
No I'm on nobodies payroll, fool.
I've pointed out what the clubs position is. It may be found valid, may not. You on the other hand... | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:45 - Jun 20 with 1137 views | exhmrc1 |
so you are admitting coming on here to spread your club's propaganda. | | | |
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| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:49 - Jun 20 with 1132 views | AlfieMooresSon |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 11:34 - Jun 20 by exhmrc1 |
If Mckay engaged Henderson he cannot be blamed. The guy is a vastly experienced pilot who flown many people in this private plane. The fact that he supposedly sublet it to someone else less qualified McKay could not have predicted. This is no different if your mate Vince had hired one of his buses from Edwards or Nat or whoever. He would quite reasonable expect that they would provide a roadworthy bus with a suitably qualified driver. If they used someone with a car licence instead of a PSV it wouldnt be Vince's fault if there was an accident and your fan's got killed.
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Not sure that's right, he probably should have booked a recognised firm not some bloke that can hire planes and get mates to fly them if he's busy or doesn't fancy the trip due to bad weather? | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:55 - Jun 20 with 1128 views | pencoedjack |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 11:44 - Jun 20 by exhmrc1 |
Your club knew at the time of the accident that this contract supposedly hadn't taken place but did nothing to correct the fact they hadn't signed him. Your fans were placing flowers outside Legoland thinking your record signing had been killed in an accident and your club let the fans believe it. The only time they changed their mind was when it came to payment. Colin even described him as a Cardiff City player which according to you and your club he never was. |
& lapped up the sympathy of every football club in the country with a minutes silence.
I believe they had 3 x 1 minutes silence at their own games. |  | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:01 - Jun 20 with 1116 views | bluey_the_blue |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:45 - Jun 20 by exhmrc1 |
so you are admitting coming on here to spread your club's propaganda. |
Yeah, you win, fair cop gov.
CCFC are clearly bothered by what you think and say so engaged me with the promise of some Clarks Pies to counter your bs. | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:05 - Jun 20 with 1110 views | Highjack |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:30 - Jun 20 by bluey_the_blue |
1. In case you'd not noticed, health and safety has moved on since then. |
So have aircraft. A bit of bad weather is no obstacle these days. | |
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| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:07 - Jun 20 with 1103 views | bluey_the_blue |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:05 - Jun 20 by Highjack |
So have aircraft. A bit of bad weather is no obstacle these days. |
It was more than a "bit of bad weather". In those conditions, a single engine plane isn't the most sensible of choices from a risk perspective. | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:08 - Jun 20 with 1100 views | bluey_the_blue |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:55 - Jun 20 by pencoedjack |
& lapped up the sympathy of every football club in the country with a minutes silence.
I believe they had 3 x 1 minutes silence at their own games. |
Ah yes, we physically went to all the clubs and forced them to do that.
Prem and FL made that choice, not us.
No, we didn't have three at our home games. | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:13 - Jun 20 with 1099 views | plasjack |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:01 - Jun 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Yeah, you win, fair cop gov.
CCFC are clearly bothered by what you think and say so engaged me with the promise of some Clarks Pies to counter your bs. |
You and your so called club are a disgrace, hope you get thrown out by FIFA, for negligence, by your people who run the club, hopefully your owner will come to his senses and sell. |  | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:19 - Jun 20 with 1092 views | bluey_the_blue |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:13 - Jun 20 by plasjack |
You and your so called club are a disgrace, hope you get thrown out by FIFA, for negligence, by your people who run the club, hopefully your owner will come to his senses and sell. |
And breath... | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:32 - Jun 20 with 1077 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 18:49 - Jun 20 by AlfieMooresSon |
Not sure that's right, he probably should have booked a recognised firm not some bloke that can hire planes and get mates to fly them if he's busy or doesn't fancy the trip due to bad weather? |
Henderson IS recognised. That’s what EMHRC is saying. Ibbotson wasn’t qualified to fly at night but by the sounds of it HE made that decision, not Henderson (who probably would have advised him against flying). Why Ibbotson decided to leave the flight until dark nobody will know but him. |  |
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| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:41 - Jun 20 with 1070 views | bluey_the_blue |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:32 - Jun 20 by Brynmill_Jack |
Henderson IS recognised. That’s what EMHRC is saying. Ibbotson wasn’t qualified to fly at night but by the sounds of it HE made that decision, not Henderson (who probably would have advised him against flying). Why Ibbotson decided to leave the flight until dark nobody will know but him. |
It's not just that though, Brynny.
Hendersons passport was produced to the airport. Henderson made all the payments on his credit card. It was clear he was representing himself as doing the flying whereas it was always going to be Ibbotson. | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:41 - Jun 20 with 1070 views | exhmrc1 |
The bloke they employed is recognised. He has been a ferry pilot for 2 decades flying small engine planes across the atlantic and flying many celebrities and high powered business executives. Anybody hiring such an individual cannot be blamed for him sub letting to someone else.
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| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:44 - Jun 20 with 1065 views | bluey_the_blue |
Oh look, someone learnt how to copy and paste from LinkedIn. Next he'll learn to take a proper screenshot...
Still, as he's Hendersons stalkery fan he can no doubt defend him in court should it come to that... | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:47 - Jun 20 with 1062 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:41 - Jun 20 by bluey_the_blue |
It's not just that though, Brynny.
Hendersons passport was produced to the airport. Henderson made all the payments on his credit card. It was clear he was representing himself as doing the flying whereas it was always going to be Ibbotson. |
Mackay could not have been aware of that. It would be sheer lunacy to suggest so. Ditto if he’d known Ibbotson was flying and at night with his “client” (who was going to earn him a nice wedge or his son) there’s no way he’d sanction that. | |
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| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:53 - Jun 20 with 1047 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:44 - Jun 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Oh look, someone learnt how to copy and paste from LinkedIn. Next he'll learn to take a proper screenshot...
Still, as he's Hendersons stalkery fan he can no doubt defend him in court should it come to that... |
He’s right and you know it Bluey. It may be that FIFA rule in your favor but that is still going to look terrible, parading him around as your player, mourning him as your player then finding a loophole so you could deny he was your player, because he tragical lost his life. It’s not a good look, once again for your club. Quite what Emiliano Sala’s family feel about this tawdry , vulgar and quite despicable behavior by your club over losing money when they’ve lost their boy forever goodness knows. | |
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| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:53 - Jun 20 with 1045 views | bluey_the_blue |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:47 - Jun 20 by Brynmill_Jack |
Mackay could not have been aware of that. It would be sheer lunacy to suggest so. Ditto if he’d known Ibbotson was flying and at night with his “client” (who was going to earn him a nice wedge or his son) there’s no way he’d sanction that. |
Read McKays' emails to Sala.
He made it perfectly plain he gave not one sh1t about anything other than business. That's about the only honest thing he's ever said.
McKay was happy for his "client" to ignore the commercial flight the club arranged for Sala. As he was paying for it, you can bet he wasn't looking for the most expensive, highest quality. Had engaged Henderson before, knew it would be done on the cheap. He gambled, wanted to pay as little money as possible and sadly Sala and Ibbotson died.
If McKay really cared, don't you think he would have confirmed all the details to the minutest level with Henderson? For an expensive client, you don't get on the phone, "Yeah, 2k ( or whatever), cheers mate". | | | |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 20:00 - Jun 20 with 1031 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 19:53 - Jun 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Read McKays' emails to Sala.
He made it perfectly plain he gave not one sh1t about anything other than business. That's about the only honest thing he's ever said.
McKay was happy for his "client" to ignore the commercial flight the club arranged for Sala. As he was paying for it, you can bet he wasn't looking for the most expensive, highest quality. Had engaged Henderson before, knew it would be done on the cheap. He gambled, wanted to pay as little money as possible and sadly Sala and Ibbotson died.
If McKay really cared, don't you think he would have confirmed all the details to the minutest level with Henderson? For an expensive client, you don't get on the phone, "Yeah, 2k ( or whatever), cheers mate". |
2 thousand pounds is hardly cheap. Ryanair are cheap, I bet Macksy could have got him into Bristol for thirty quid. | |
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| NSR- Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter over Sala Death on 20:02 - Jun 20 with 1025 views | exhmrc1 |
nobody is defending Henderson just showing how the guy that Mckay booked to take the flight had proper credentials. Unfortunately you are just not able to understand that Mckay has acted correctly in engaging a leader in the field. He cannot be blamed for Henderson subletting to Ibbotson or for Ibbotson not having the right credentials as he wouldnt have been aware of that. Been as you obviously dont realise it Mckay stood to make 1.5 million from the deal. Why on earth would he have put that at risk. There was absolutely nothing for Mckay and Nantes to gain and a lot to lose. Mckay has used Henderson and his planes on numerous occasions and previously without any problems. He had no reason to suspect this would be any difference this time. | | | |
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