| Sign it... on 15:32 - Mar 21 with 2364 views | judd |
| Sign it... on 15:21 - Mar 21 by D_Alien |
Funny you should mention that... when i was a kid we had a dog that ate white dog turds
Anyone know if they're particularly nutritious?
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| Sign it... on 15:36 - Mar 21 with 2361 views | macro |
| Sign it... on 15:22 - Mar 21 by SuddenLad |
Bang on the money with that. The EU have set their stall out from Day 1, to make life as difficult as possible and to make an example of us.
We were never going to get anything approaching fairness, regardless of who was our PM of who was in Government.
Plenty of these EU leaders have treated us with disdain and flicked their wrists at us, as if we're flies on a turd. They have shown their true colours and what they really think of the British
The sooner we leave the lot of them to squabble amongst themselves,the better we will be
Good luck trying to sell your BMW's, Audi's, Citroens, Fiats etc. to Guinea-Bissau or South Sudan. |
Or you could say the money paid by the EU to some areas of British business through subsidies keeps them afloat or that the deal offered has upset both retainers and leavers in equal measure. The way I voted doesn’t matter in this instance but the deal offered does and that deal is substandard as it stands. All this mess has done is cause divisions which will take a generation to sort out. |  | | |
| Sign it... on 15:48 - Mar 21 with 2345 views | SuddenLad |
| Sign it... on 15:36 - Mar 21 by macro |
Or you could say the money paid by the EU to some areas of British business through subsidies keeps them afloat or that the deal offered has upset both retainers and leavers in equal measure. The way I voted doesn’t matter in this instance but the deal offered does and that deal is substandard as it stands. All this mess has done is cause divisions which will take a generation to sort out. |
Negotiation is a 2-way street. It seems we have made all the concessions with a gun held to our heads. Perhaps the £39 billion we won't have to pay, can be diverted to home based projects and businesses. When we are gone, we won't be the last. |  |
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| Sign it... on 15:49 - Mar 21 with 2345 views | electricblue |
| Sign it... on 15:22 - Mar 21 by SuddenLad |
Bang on the money with that. The EU have set their stall out from Day 1, to make life as difficult as possible and to make an example of us.
We were never going to get anything approaching fairness, regardless of who was our PM of who was in Government.
Plenty of these EU leaders have treated us with disdain and flicked their wrists at us, as if we're flies on a turd. They have shown their true colours and what they really think of the British
The sooner we leave the lot of them to squabble amongst themselves,the better we will be
Good luck trying to sell your BMW's, Audi's, Citroens, Fiats etc. to Guinea-Bissau or South Sudan. |
Maybe..
But it does not help having a weak PM thats an hinderence... |  |
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| Sign it... on 15:56 - Mar 21 with 2330 views | D_Alien |
| Sign it... on 15:32 - Mar 21 by judd |
White dog turd-eating dogs? |
Just as well the internet wasn't available back then to look up recipes |  |
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| Sign it... on 15:58 - Mar 21 with 2322 views | tony_roch975 |
Agree with SD's plea for discussion over anger. Whilst referendums aren't binding under our laws, Cameron chose to write to us all saying he would abide by its decision and the other Parties (who'd all agreed to the referendum) didn't challenge that. Reasonable now to argue Parliament is under a moral obligation to carry the decision out. However being a referendum it asked a binary question which doesn't give much guide to all the complexities so all sides can argue 'they know what the people voted for'. I don't - I think the only thing we might all agree about is we weren't voting on Membership of the EU; we were voting on our attitudes to immigration; globalisation; neo-liberal economics; identity; sovereignty; liberal social values; the pace & scale of change. Seems to me you either say the Referendum is Sovereign or Parliament is - which ever way you sway, the other is (or feels) betrayed. Direct (Referendum) democracy is a perfectly valid option but it's not the one we currently have. If we want that it means we (the voters) make all the decisions by simple majority and get rid of Parliament - is that what those who voted Leave would now want us to move to? I don't because I believe in representative Parliamentary democracy, so no more referendums for me. |  |
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| Sign it... on 16:06 - Mar 21 with 2301 views | 49thseason |
| Sign it... on 15:48 - Mar 21 by SuddenLad |
Negotiation is a 2-way street. It seems we have made all the concessions with a gun held to our heads. Perhaps the £39 billion we won't have to pay, can be diverted to home based projects and businesses. When we are gone, we won't be the last. |
The Netherlands voted yesterday in some sort of local council elections but the result will also determine the allocation of seats in their First Chamber, (their upper chamber), Nexit parties have gained considerable ground with FvD (Forum voor Democratie), now the largest party with 13 seats, together with PVV they now have 18 out of 75 seats in the 2nd chamber. |  | | |
| Sign it... on 16:07 - Mar 21 with 2298 views | rochdale_ranger |
| Sign it... on 15:21 - Mar 21 by D_Alien |
Funny you should mention that... when i was a kid we had a dog that ate white dog turds
Anyone know if they're particularly nutritious?
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A dog will eat it’s or another animals turd when it isn’tgetting enough nutrients in its diet. |  | | |
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| Sign it... on 16:10 - Mar 21 with 2295 views | rochdale_ranger |
| Sign it... on 15:22 - Mar 21 by SuddenLad |
Bang on the money with that. The EU have set their stall out from Day 1, to make life as difficult as possible and to make an example of us.
We were never going to get anything approaching fairness, regardless of who was our PM of who was in Government.
Plenty of these EU leaders have treated us with disdain and flicked their wrists at us, as if we're flies on a turd. They have shown their true colours and what they really think of the British
The sooner we leave the lot of them to squabble amongst themselves,the better we will be
Good luck trying to sell your BMW's, Audi's, Citroens, Fiats etc. to Guinea-Bissau or South Sudan. |
Agree with that I also think people underestimate anti Eu sentiment on the continent. On another note what happened at the stag do pal? | | | |
| Sign it... on 16:20 - Mar 21 with 2276 views | D_Alien |
| Sign it... on 16:07 - Mar 21 by rochdale_ranger |
A dog will eat it’s or another animals turd when it isn’tgetting enough nutrients in its diet. |
I wasn't getting enough nutrients in my diet, let alone the f...... dog! | |
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| Sign it... on 16:35 - Mar 21 with 2242 views | JimmyRustler |
- I refuse to accept the result of a democratic vote.
- Please sign this absolutely cack, meaningless online petition to illustrate how the nation really feels.
Brilliant. Cognitive dissonance in full swing |  | | |
| Sign it... on 16:50 - Mar 21 with 2217 views | rochdale_ranger |
| Sign it... on 16:20 - Mar 21 by D_Alien |
I wasn't getting enough nutrients in my diet, let alone the f...... dog! |
Times were that hard? | | | |
| Sign it... on 17:03 - Mar 21 with 2194 views | D_Alien |
It was just a few years before Monty Python immortalised how hard the times were
But still, our dog only ate white turds, even though we brought him up to be non-discriminatory. Explain that! | |
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| Sign it... on 17:07 - Mar 21 with 2184 views | HK_Dale |
I don't have an issue with a guiding, non-binding, vote being seen as democratic will but blindly following this, just because people thought it sounded like a good idea without all the facts is the problem.
It's akin to buying a house, and really thinking the idea of buying that house is brilliant and the majority of your family and friends you'll have an amazing life there, etc. etc. So you tell the estate agent that you want to buy said house and your offer is accepted. You then find out from experts that the house is structurally unsound and has damp etc and would take years to ready for normal living, so even in the best case scenario, you'll be worse off.
But rather than taking the rational path of saying this isn't worth it, you decide to go ahead and buy the house, because notionally you'll be better off and love your life, in your new house, even though factually that's unlikely. |  | | |
| Sign it... on 17:17 - Mar 21 with 2159 views | JimmyRustler |
| Sign it... on 17:07 - Mar 21 by HK_Dale |
I don't have an issue with a guiding, non-binding, vote being seen as democratic will but blindly following this, just because people thought it sounded like a good idea without all the facts is the problem.
It's akin to buying a house, and really thinking the idea of buying that house is brilliant and the majority of your family and friends you'll have an amazing life there, etc. etc. So you tell the estate agent that you want to buy said house and your offer is accepted. You then find out from experts that the house is structurally unsound and has damp etc and would take years to ready for normal living, so even in the best case scenario, you'll be worse off.
But rather than taking the rational path of saying this isn't worth it, you decide to go ahead and buy the house, because notionally you'll be better off and love your life, in your new house, even though factually that's unlikely. |
Oh come on. All this, "you didn't know what you were voting for" shite is so condescending and disrespectful. In what essentially descended into a mud-slinging match, there was plenty of misinformation and lies spread by both sides. "Remain" just wasn't as persuasive with their bullshit as "Leave". Now we have a parliament who are being deliberately obtuse and difficult, lead by a woman who would have probably voted for someone running her cat over before leaving the EU. Honestly, it's the biggest sabotage since The Beastie Boys | | | |
| Sign it... on 17:25 - Mar 21 with 2134 views | James1980 |
| Sign it... on 17:17 - Mar 21 by JimmyRustler |
Oh come on. All this, "you didn't know what you were voting for" shite is so condescending and disrespectful. In what essentially descended into a mud-slinging match, there was plenty of misinformation and lies spread by both sides. "Remain" just wasn't as persuasive with their bullshit as "Leave". Now we have a parliament who are being deliberately obtuse and difficult, lead by a woman who would have probably voted for someone running her cat over before leaving the EU. Honestly, it's the biggest sabotage since The Beastie Boys |
So no one voted leave based on 'why can't we be like Norway', 'We hold all the cards', 'The German car industry', '£350 million a week for the NHS', 'Easiest deal in history', 'They need us more than we need them'?
All which have turned out to be utter BS.
Would leave have won had they said before the referendum we will be worse of for 50 years? Which is something the facist toff Jacob Rees-Mogg has actually said. | |
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| Sign it... on 17:29 - Mar 21 with 2128 views | mingthemerciless |
If they can sell people jeans with pre existing holes in the knees then selling them a painless Brexit was a doddle. | | | |
| Sign it... on 17:29 - Mar 21 with 2128 views | JimmyRustler |
| Sign it... on 17:25 - Mar 21 by James1980 |
So no one voted leave based on 'why can't we be like Norway', 'We hold all the cards', 'The German car industry', '£350 million a week for the NHS', 'Easiest deal in history', 'They need us more than we need them'?
All which have turned out to be utter BS.
Would leave have won had they said before the referendum we will be worse of for 50 years? Which is something the facist toff Jacob Rees-Mogg has actually said. |
Did you actually read what I just wrote? | | | |
| Sign it... on 17:32 - Mar 21 with 2118 views | kel |
| Sign it... on 16:10 - Mar 21 by rochdale_ranger |
Agree with that I also think people underestimate anti Eu sentiment on the continent. On another note what happened at the stag do pal? |
Ha. Wonder if he’ll ever actually answer one single query to his posts on here. |  | | |
| Sign it... on 17:32 - Mar 21 with 2117 views | HK_Dale |
| Sign it... on 17:17 - Mar 21 by JimmyRustler |
Oh come on. All this, "you didn't know what you were voting for" shite is so condescending and disrespectful. In what essentially descended into a mud-slinging match, there was plenty of misinformation and lies spread by both sides. "Remain" just wasn't as persuasive with their bullshit as "Leave". Now we have a parliament who are being deliberately obtuse and difficult, lead by a woman who would have probably voted for someone running her cat over before leaving the EU. Honestly, it's the biggest sabotage since The Beastie Boys |
I'm not being condescending but it's factual - we didn't know the economic impact, we didn't know how we would decouple the service sector that makes up the majority of our GDP, we didn't know how we would create our own judicial framework, we didn't know how we would manage things such as immigration, aviation, shipping, we didn't know how to ensure multi-nationals would still have access to produce in the UK, we didn't even know what to do with British people living in the EU. These are just off the top of my head, but surely these are fairly critical to the smooth running a country?
All this WTO rules stuff, "take back control" and over simplified rhetoric was the problem in addition to the fact that we are now a net goods importing country and a net services exporting country with those net exports being, in many cases, inextricably linked to the EU. | | | |
| Sign it... on 17:38 - Mar 21 with 2087 views | James1980 |
| Sign it... on 17:29 - Mar 21 by JimmyRustler |
Did you actually read what I just wrote? |
Those statements I quoted along with any potentially negative effects being called "project fear' were not enough to tip the balance then? | |
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| Sign it... on 17:40 - Mar 21 with 2081 views | JimmyRustler |
| Sign it... on 17:32 - Mar 21 by HK_Dale |
I'm not being condescending but it's factual - we didn't know the economic impact, we didn't know how we would decouple the service sector that makes up the majority of our GDP, we didn't know how we would create our own judicial framework, we didn't know how we would manage things such as immigration, aviation, shipping, we didn't know how to ensure multi-nationals would still have access to produce in the UK, we didn't even know what to do with British people living in the EU. These are just off the top of my head, but surely these are fairly critical to the smooth running a country?
All this WTO rules stuff, "take back control" and over simplified rhetoric was the problem in addition to the fact that we are now a net goods importing country and a net services exporting country with those net exports being, in many cases, inextricably linked to the EU. |
Of course we didn't know. Nobody knows; that's the point. Which is why it was laughable when the "Remain" doombringers got their crystal ball out. Ultimately, the majority of those who voted opted to take a plunge into the unknown as opposed to be ruled by an authoritarian, totalitarian superstate. You only need to look at the way the tvvats have behaved since we voted to leave to see their true colours and intentions. As I said, there was plenty of misinformation spread by "Remain" too which I am sure also had a big influence on those who were on the fence but chose to vote that way. The only reason that the lies (and many of them were outright lies) peddled by "Leave" are under the microscope is because that is the side that won | | | |
| Sign it... on 17:54 - Mar 21 with 2044 views | James1980 |
| Sign it... on 17:40 - Mar 21 by JimmyRustler |
Of course we didn't know. Nobody knows; that's the point. Which is why it was laughable when the "Remain" doombringers got their crystal ball out. Ultimately, the majority of those who voted opted to take a plunge into the unknown as opposed to be ruled by an authoritarian, totalitarian superstate. You only need to look at the way the tvvats have behaved since we voted to leave to see their true colours and intentions. As I said, there was plenty of misinformation spread by "Remain" too which I am sure also had a big influence on those who were on the fence but chose to vote that way. The only reason that the lies (and many of them were outright lies) peddled by "Leave" are under the microscope is because that is the side that won |
Why should they capitulate to our every demand? | |
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| Sign it... on 18:17 - Mar 21 with 2016 views | frenzied |
| Sign it... on 15:49 - Mar 21 by electricblue |
Maybe..
But it does not help having a weak PM thats an hinderence... |
I don’t think she’s weak
Why didn’t we send Boris...Rees Mogg and Farage over to negotiate..I doubt they would have got a better deal.
We will exit the EU ..but it will be a watered down exit than the Brexiteers wanted..so no one happy! | | | |
| Sign it... on 18:20 - Mar 21 with 2010 views | EllGazzell |
| Sign it... on 17:40 - Mar 21 by JimmyRustler |
Of course we didn't know. Nobody knows; that's the point. Which is why it was laughable when the "Remain" doombringers got their crystal ball out. Ultimately, the majority of those who voted opted to take a plunge into the unknown as opposed to be ruled by an authoritarian, totalitarian superstate. You only need to look at the way the tvvats have behaved since we voted to leave to see their true colours and intentions. As I said, there was plenty of misinformation spread by "Remain" too which I am sure also had a big influence on those who were on the fence but chose to vote that way. The only reason that the lies (and many of them were outright lies) peddled by "Leave" are under the microscope is because that is the side that won |
Could you elaborate on "the way the tvvats have behaved since we voted to leave to see their true colours and intentions" please? |  |
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