| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias 10:18 - Aug 20 with 10842 views | castlejack |
Sign him up? Spurs and Chelsea also interested in the 25 year old Colombian international.
Fee in region of £12 mill
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 15:25 - Aug 20 with 4670 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 14:54 - Aug 20 by macthejack |
Whilst I'm in the same boat as you Doc, thinking Naughton gets some undeserved stick and that he's been very capable defensively he just doesn't offer enough going forward.
We're really going to need attacking width from our fullbacks especially as it looks like we're going to be playing without wingers this season. A few times yesterday I found myself wishing we had a right sided version of Olsson (although yesterday wasn't his best game going forward.) |
I'm the other way around. I think Naughton is generally better on the front foot than the back, although he has improved defensively under Clement. I'm not averse to a bit of competition either as Rangel is getting too long in the tooth to be relied upon for long periods.
I just find it strange that so many still see RB as a priority even given the problems we've had in attack so far this season. Sure, if we've added the pace and creativity we need and there's money left for another then fine.
Yesterday was just a bad day attacking wise full stop. |  |
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 15:27 - Aug 20 with 4651 views | costalotta |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 10:45 - Aug 20 by castlejack |
Definitely a bad move to sell LLORENTE so close to transfer deadline with no realistic chance to replace him.At some point the club need to adopt the same stance as Stoke and Liverpool and put up a ....
NOT For sale in this transfer window
There's one thing to be a selling club, but another to keep
1. Selling and pocketing the cash
2. Trying to replace with loan signings and much cheaper replacements. |
And ...
3 . Rejects from Kettering and Coventry along with the laughable scouting of the Aberdeen, st mirren and Morton failure. |  | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 15:39 - Aug 20 with 4582 views | KingBony |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 11:36 - Aug 20 by bermudajack |
Could we ever see this?
fab
Fred. Bartley. Mawson
Arias. Messa. Clucas
Chadli Carrol
Abraham
Llorente
I'll get my coat & jacket 😳 |
When you get your coat can you take every reference to "Fred" with you please, that's not his name mun. [Post edited 20 Aug 2017 18:01]
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 16:04 - Aug 20 with 4487 views | Private_Partz |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 10:45 - Aug 20 by castlejack |
Definitely a bad move to sell LLORENTE so close to transfer deadline with no realistic chance to replace him.At some point the club need to adopt the same stance as Stoke and Liverpool and put up a ....
NOT For sale in this transfer window
There's one thing to be a selling club, but another to keep
1. Selling and pocketing the cash
2. Trying to replace with loan signings and much cheaper replacements. |
Excellent advice. Let's hope the clubs The Ditherer is currently speaking to don't have the same policy. This is what he is up against now by effing about over the Siggy transfer.i am of course assuming he is talking to other clubs which may not be the case. |  |
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 16:37 - Aug 20 with 4396 views | airedale |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 11:23 - Aug 20 by MrSwerve |
I'd be happy with him and Arias.
Boom boom. |
V good, and I bet it won't be long before some joker starts calling him Hairyarse too. |  | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 18:44 - Aug 20 with 4250 views | castlejack |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 14:54 - Aug 20 by macthejack |
Whilst I'm in the same boat as you Doc, thinking Naughton gets some undeserved stick and that he's been very capable defensively he just doesn't offer enough going forward.
We're really going to need attacking width from our fullbacks especially as it looks like we're going to be playing without wingers this season. A few times yesterday I found myself wishing we had a right sided version of Olsson (although yesterday wasn't his best game going forward.) |
I agree, definitely need more forward runs and crosses from the full backs to get the ball in the middle for the big guys | |
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 19:56 - Aug 20 with 4124 views | castlejack |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 10:37 - Aug 20 by PawelAbbott |
Looks a very attacking fullback. Would give us a much better option if we are going to continue playing wing backs |
Swans need to get a move on for Santiago Arias, half the premier league seem to be linked to him, but suprisingky we are favourites to sign him.... | |
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 21:06 - Aug 20 with 4028 views | WarwickHunt |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 13:35 - Aug 20 by castlejack |
Rumoured we have made a £12 million offer today for Santiago Arias |
Chinese whispers.
It's £5m for Harry Arse. 'Boro reserves. |  | | |
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 21:42 - Aug 20 with 3956 views | Swansea93 |
He played today for PSV. [Post edited 20 Aug 2017 21:43]
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 22:17 - Aug 20 with 3868 views | Cooperman |
How about £8m plus Narsingh and a strongly worded fax from Huw telling PSV not to attempt another scam. |  |
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 12:29 - Aug 21 with 3611 views | castlejack |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 21:42 - Aug 20 by Swansea93 |
He played today for PSV. [Post edited 20 Aug 2017 21:43]
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 17:42 - Aug 21 with 3294 views | awayjack |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 15:25 - Aug 20 by Dr_Winston |
I'm the other way around. I think Naughton is generally better on the front foot than the back, although he has improved defensively under Clement. I'm not averse to a bit of competition either as Rangel is getting too long in the tooth to be relied upon for long periods.
I just find it strange that so many still see RB as a priority even given the problems we've had in attack so far this season. Sure, if we've added the pace and creativity we need and there's money left for another then fine.
Yesterday was just a bad day attacking wise full stop. |
That's key to our problem. We are desperate for pace, control, creativity and set-play finisher from AM and/or new Winger, but we also lack squad depth to cover injury or loss of form. Agree Rangel legs can't do more than cameo cover, so if Naugton gets injured - we'll end up with Fer at RB again. Hopefully Arias rumours are real. I'd take a quality AM over Bony, unless we plan to sell Llorente. |  | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 18:06 - Aug 21 with 3220 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 17:42 - Aug 21 by awayjack |
That's key to our problem. We are desperate for pace, control, creativity and set-play finisher from AM and/or new Winger, but we also lack squad depth to cover injury or loss of form. Agree Rangel legs can't do more than cameo cover, so if Naugton gets injured - we'll end up with Fer at RB again. Hopefully Arias rumours are real. I'd take a quality AM over Bony, unless we plan to sell Llorente. |
Fair points, although Kingsley's likely departure throws everything up in the air. | |
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 06:56 - Aug 22 with 2961 views | Nirvana |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 15:25 - Aug 20 by Dr_Winston |
I'm the other way around. I think Naughton is generally better on the front foot than the back, although he has improved defensively under Clement. I'm not averse to a bit of competition either as Rangel is getting too long in the tooth to be relied upon for long periods.
I just find it strange that so many still see RB as a priority even given the problems we've had in attack so far this season. Sure, if we've added the pace and creativity we need and there's money left for another then fine.
Yesterday was just a bad day attacking wise full stop. |
One of the major problems with Naughton is that he's actually not very good in defence or attack. At his best, he's pedestrian in both.
In stark terms, he is consistently poor at:
- crossing
- link up play
- positional awareness in defence
- deciveness going forward
- tracking back when caught out
- reckless, low-confidence tackler
These are all basic components of being a fullback, and he routinely disappoints. Arias is nowhere near perfect, but he's one hell of an upgrade on Naughton. A proper attacking fullback with the pace and energy to get up and down the flank, excellent crosser and passer, and a nice mix of confidence/aggression reminiscent of Rangel. We would see a much more incisive, "free-flowing" style of football just from making this move.
I'm not really sure I can believe the link, given Jenkins' penchant for flashy smokescreens, but would be an excellent signing for us if there's any truth in it. Arias would take over the starting RB spot, Naughton could play utility fullback, we could loan out/sell Kingsley: win-win-win. I'd personally rather us spend £12m on Arias than £15m+ on Clucas, someone of questionable quality and postional redundancy.
Also, our interest in the guy means Clement was either lying in his now-infamous "PL experience" quote, or he doesn't really have a say in our transfers. We'll see. |  | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 13:28 - Aug 22 with 2803 views | awayjack |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 06:56 - Aug 22 by Nirvana |
One of the major problems with Naughton is that he's actually not very good in defence or attack. At his best, he's pedestrian in both.
In stark terms, he is consistently poor at:
- crossing
- link up play
- positional awareness in defence
- deciveness going forward
- tracking back when caught out
- reckless, low-confidence tackler
These are all basic components of being a fullback, and he routinely disappoints. Arias is nowhere near perfect, but he's one hell of an upgrade on Naughton. A proper attacking fullback with the pace and energy to get up and down the flank, excellent crosser and passer, and a nice mix of confidence/aggression reminiscent of Rangel. We would see a much more incisive, "free-flowing" style of football just from making this move.
I'm not really sure I can believe the link, given Jenkins' penchant for flashy smokescreens, but would be an excellent signing for us if there's any truth in it. Arias would take over the starting RB spot, Naughton could play utility fullback, we could loan out/sell Kingsley: win-win-win. I'd personally rather us spend £12m on Arias than £15m+ on Clucas, someone of questionable quality and postional redundancy.
Also, our interest in the guy means Clement was either lying in his now-infamous "PL experience" quote, or he doesn't really have a say in our transfers. We'll see. |
Naughton has improved a huge amount under PC. Not saying he's a PL quality and Arias be major upgrade. If Kingsley moves on, he'd be decent cover at RB/LB. Shame to lose Kingsley but Arias in, with Clucas also able to cover various defensive positions, be an improvement. On one game Bartley seems to shave improved, but last time here, his issue was inconsistency and poor control. VDHorne, Rangel or Fer covering defensive injuries is massive risk. Even with Arias in for Kingsley, we're still shirt on depth but more quality. | | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 18:21 - Aug 22 with 2519 views | bermudajack |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 13:28 - Aug 22 by awayjack |
Naughton has improved a huge amount under PC. Not saying he's a PL quality and Arias be major upgrade. If Kingsley moves on, he'd be decent cover at RB/LB. Shame to lose Kingsley but Arias in, with Clucas also able to cover various defensive positions, be an improvement. On one game Bartley seems to shave improved, but last time here, his issue was inconsistency and poor control. VDHorne, Rangel or Fer covering defensive injuries is massive risk. Even with Arias in for Kingsley, we're still shirt on depth but more quality. |
king Bony... "When you get your coat can you take every reference to "Fred" with you please, that's not his name mun"
Reply... "Fred - never mentioned it was a problem when I last spoke to him..." 🤔
Some touchy folk on here aye... 🤡 |  |
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 18:32 - Aug 22 with 2455 views | TheKirkyLife |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 06:56 - Aug 22 by Nirvana |
One of the major problems with Naughton is that he's actually not very good in defence or attack. At his best, he's pedestrian in both.
In stark terms, he is consistently poor at:
- crossing
- link up play
- positional awareness in defence
- deciveness going forward
- tracking back when caught out
- reckless, low-confidence tackler
These are all basic components of being a fullback, and he routinely disappoints. Arias is nowhere near perfect, but he's one hell of an upgrade on Naughton. A proper attacking fullback with the pace and energy to get up and down the flank, excellent crosser and passer, and a nice mix of confidence/aggression reminiscent of Rangel. We would see a much more incisive, "free-flowing" style of football just from making this move.
I'm not really sure I can believe the link, given Jenkins' penchant for flashy smokescreens, but would be an excellent signing for us if there's any truth in it. Arias would take over the starting RB spot, Naughton could play utility fullback, we could loan out/sell Kingsley: win-win-win. I'd personally rather us spend £12m on Arias than £15m+ on Clucas, someone of questionable quality and postional redundancy.
Also, our interest in the guy means Clement was either lying in his now-infamous "PL experience" quote, or he doesn't really have a say in our transfers. We'll see. |
To be fair to Clement he did later follow that up with the statement that Swansea would look abroad if English prices were too outrageous.
Either way I reckon, if the deal comes off at £8 million as is being suggested now, we'd be absolutely fine with our defence. |  | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 19:06 - Aug 22 with 2313 views | Loyal |
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| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 10:16 - Aug 23 with 2124 views | PawelAbbott |
Daily Mail are reporting that we have tabled an offer of £2M.
That must be a typo from them. | | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 10:20 - Aug 23 with 2089 views | jasonbromham |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 10:16 - Aug 23 by PawelAbbott |
Daily Mail are reporting that we have tabled an offer of £2M.
That must be a typo from them. |
Just posted this on the other thread, Huw's taking the piss here haha! | | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 10:49 - Aug 23 with 1996 views | Swans_16 |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 10:20 - Aug 23 by jasonbromham |
Just posted this on the other thread, Huw's taking the piss here haha! |
Typo, there's a 1 missing. It's £12 million. | | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 01:05 - Aug 24 with 1698 views | Nirvana |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 13:28 - Aug 22 by awayjack |
Naughton has improved a huge amount under PC. Not saying he's a PL quality and Arias be major upgrade. If Kingsley moves on, he'd be decent cover at RB/LB. Shame to lose Kingsley but Arias in, with Clucas also able to cover various defensive positions, be an improvement. On one game Bartley seems to shave improved, but last time here, his issue was inconsistency and poor control. VDHorne, Rangel or Fer covering defensive injuries is massive risk. Even with Arias in for Kingsley, we're still shirt on depth but more quality. |
Spot on, Away. | | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 01:13 - Aug 24 with 1689 views | Nirvana |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 18:32 - Aug 22 by TheKirkyLife |
To be fair to Clement he did later follow that up with the statement that Swansea would look abroad if English prices were too outrageous.
Either way I reckon, if the deal comes off at £8 million as is being suggested now, we'd be absolutely fine with our defence. |
Yeah, I doubt someone of Clement's experience would only want PL players. Maybe he would prefer it, but it's unrealistic. I wonder if that was Jenkins telling him to say that, though, seeing as Clucas was the first deal done. I don't put anything past the guy. We'll see.
As for the £8m, do you have a link or source for that? Genuine question, all I've seen is the £12m figure. For £8m Arias is an absolute steal, especially since we badly need a RB. Although, to be fair, Sevilla got Sebastien Corchia for £4.5m and he's excellent.
No complaints here, though, let's bring this guy in. Naughton would be an excellent backup, and we can all love him like he wants. Perfect world. | | | |
| Swans interest in PSVs right back Santiago Arias on 05:45 - Aug 24 with 1639 views | AussieSwan |
With Kingsley gone I really hope this one is a done deal ASAP | |
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