| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 09:50 - Aug 3 with 3589 views | stevec |
Don't really see why it's misguided Brian.
What is misguided is the anti Brexit crowd seemingly happy being led by the very same nation that committed these vile atrocities.
You've all got grandfathers and great grandfathers who, somewhere along the line, had their lives turned upside down, yet happily support German control. I really don't get it. |  | |  |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 09:52 - Aug 3 with 3580 views | runningman75 |
I think this is a great gesture. Though far right rise in Poland is worrying having been to Krakow and Auschwitz it is important to remember history. Also many conspiracy theorists see the holocaust industry as a Hollywood invention and it is important to remember the horrors of World War 2. |  | | |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:14 - Aug 3 with 3538 views | Jeff |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 09:50 - Aug 3 by stevec |
Don't really see why it's misguided Brian.
What is misguided is the anti Brexit crowd seemingly happy being led by the very same nation that committed these vile atrocities.
You've all got grandfathers and great grandfathers who, somewhere along the line, had their lives turned upside down, yet happily support German control. I really don't get it. |
Wait, are you suggesting that there is no difference between 1940's Germany and 2010 Germany? |  |
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:17 - Aug 3 with 3529 views | Northernr |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 09:50 - Aug 3 by stevec |
Don't really see why it's misguided Brian.
What is misguided is the anti Brexit crowd seemingly happy being led by the very same nation that committed these vile atrocities.
You've all got grandfathers and great grandfathers who, somewhere along the line, had their lives turned upside down, yet happily support German control. I really don't get it. |
There are subtle differences between Hitler's Germany of the 1930s and Merkel's Germany of 2017 if you look really hard.
FFS etc.
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:27 - Aug 3 with 3489 views | Mytch_QPR |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 09:50 - Aug 3 by stevec |
Don't really see why it's misguided Brian.
What is misguided is the anti Brexit crowd seemingly happy being led by the very same nation that committed these vile atrocities.
You've all got grandfathers and great grandfathers who, somewhere along the line, had their lives turned upside down, yet happily support German control. I really don't get it. |
It's good to know that Great Britain has never committed any abuse of human rights like, say, slavery. |  |
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:34 - Aug 3 with 3465 views | TacticalR |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 09:50 - Aug 3 by stevec |
Don't really see why it's misguided Brian.
What is misguided is the anti Brexit crowd seemingly happy being led by the very same nation that committed these vile atrocities.
You've all got grandfathers and great grandfathers who, somewhere along the line, had their lives turned upside down, yet happily support German control. I really don't get it. |
My memory might be playing tricks on me, but wasn't it a particular gripe of yours that you couldn't enter BBC buildings dressed as Hitler?
BBC Left Wing Bias
BBC Left Wing Bias by BazzaInTheLoft 11 Sep 2015 12:41
Another myth.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyns-team-send-complaint-to-bbc-over-its-hatchet-job-panorama-programme-10495955.html
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:41 - Aug 3 with 3435 views | nadera78 |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 09:50 - Aug 3 by stevec |
Don't really see why it's misguided Brian.
What is misguided is the anti Brexit crowd seemingly happy being led by the very same nation that committed these vile atrocities.
You've all got grandfathers and great grandfathers who, somewhere along the line, had their lives turned upside down, yet happily support German control. I really don't get it. |
You really are a prize plonker! | | | |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:42 - Aug 3 with 3431 views | hopphoops |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 09:50 - Aug 3 by stevec |
Don't really see why it's misguided Brian.
What is misguided is the anti Brexit crowd seemingly happy being led by the very same nation that committed these vile atrocities.
You've all got grandfathers and great grandfathers who, somewhere along the line, had their lives turned upside down, yet happily support German control. I really don't get it. |
My grandfather nearly starved to death in 1918 in a POW camp, and my father nearly died and spent years having his face and hands reconstructed after his tank was hit on the way to Arnhem.
I've moved on, and I think the EU is a powerful force for good, in Europe and globally. |  |
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:53 - Aug 3 with 3396 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 09:50 - Aug 3 by stevec |
Don't really see why it's misguided Brian.
What is misguided is the anti Brexit crowd seemingly happy being led by the very same nation that committed these vile atrocities.
You've all got grandfathers and great grandfathers who, somewhere along the line, had their lives turned upside down, yet happily support German control. I really don't get it. |
Sorry, I didn't see the Brexit link!
I'm sure next week they'll do a Brexit display. Now that the trifling matter of 160,000 slaughtered has been disposed of. [Post edited 3 Aug 2017 10:53]
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:55 - Aug 3 with 3385 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:27 - Aug 3 by Mytch_QPR |
It's good to know that Great Britain has never committed any abuse of human rights like, say, slavery. |
Well, yes. | |
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:01 - Aug 3 with 3368 views | Brightonhoop |
We know how ugly War in Europe can get, not just the 2 World Wars and history, but more recently the Serbian wars in our lifetimes too showed just how grim it can get.
And I've often thought tribalism in football/sport acts like a safety valve which is better than going to war. Life is political. |  | | |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:08 - Aug 3 with 3348 views | danehoop |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:55 - Aug 3 by BrianMcCarthy |
Well, yes. |
Agreed, but equally and probably less well known is the steps that they took to stop slavery once William Wilberforce led the change to law in 1807. Wikipedia provides a surprisingly good summary of measures that the British took either unilaterally or multilaterally to end the slave trade globally thereafter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_Trade_Act_1807 |  |
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:20 - Aug 3 with 3314 views | paulparker |
Maybe someone should tell Celtic and their scummy fans about the title of the thread
pro republican and songs about Lee Rigby really sum up what utter kunts they are |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:22 - Aug 3 with 3311 views | stumbleandfall |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 09:50 - Aug 3 by stevec |
Don't really see why it's misguided Brian.
What is misguided is the anti Brexit crowd seemingly happy being led by the very same nation that committed these vile atrocities.
You've all got grandfathers and great grandfathers who, somewhere along the line, had their lives turned upside down, yet happily support German control. I really don't get it. |
Hysterical.
Replying to an Irishman about national atrocities of the German.
Conveniently forgetting Bloody Sunday which was more recent than WW2.
We also have a past to forget, Boer War, Empire etc. Let's not throw rocks at the Germans without owning our own past. | | | |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:26 - Aug 3 with 3300 views | hopphoops |
Back to the tifo: it's quite something, if not calculated to ease the life of the millions of Poles in Germany.
One thing in its favour, they haven't put 2017 on it so they can use it again next year. [Post edited 3 Aug 2017 11:27]
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:33 - Aug 3 with 3277 views | colinallcars |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:27 - Aug 3 by Mytch_QPR |
It's good to know that Great Britain has never committed any abuse of human rights like, say, slavery. |
It's an old chestnut, but slavery was in its sad existence for thousands of years before Britain was involved. Yes, we were a leading participant but at least led the way in abolition. |  | | |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:47 - Aug 3 with 3242 views | kensalriser |
I don't identify with the Britain that indulged in atrocities before and during the Colonial years, and I've never met a German that identifies with Nazi Germany.
Stop trolling Steve. I don't believe for a second that you're as moronic as you try to make out. |  |
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 12:10 - Aug 3 with 3204 views | Dorse |
Did anyone else notice that, according to the article, the Warsaw Uprising took place 3 months after the Germans surrendered?
As you were. |  |
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 12:15 - Aug 3 with 3195 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:08 - Aug 3 by danehoop |
Agreed, but equally and probably less well known is the steps that they took to stop slavery once William Wilberforce led the change to law in 1807. Wikipedia provides a surprisingly good summary of measures that the British took either unilaterally or multilaterally to end the slave trade globally thereafter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_Trade_Act_1807 |
Good point. Little consolation to the hundreds of thousands of Irish slaves imprisoned and sold by the English, but the anti-slavery moment when it came was laudable. | |
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 12:17 - Aug 3 with 3187 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:22 - Aug 3 by stumbleandfall |
Hysterical.
Replying to an Irishman about national atrocities of the German.
Conveniently forgetting Bloody Sunday which was more recent than WW2.
We also have a past to forget, Boer War, Empire etc. Let's not throw rocks at the Germans without owning our own past. |
Hey, let's not forget that ye also gave us EastEnders.
Then again, sorry for Jedward...truce? | |
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 12:19 - Aug 3 with 3182 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:20 - Aug 3 by paulparker |
Maybe someone should tell Celtic and their scummy fans about the title of the thread
pro republican and songs about Lee Rigby really sum up what utter kunts they are |
Well, that's where I can't make my mind up.
I detest Celtic and their sectarianism as much as anyone on this board, and Glasgow Rangers and their filth equally, but I do kind of admire the Celtic fans links with Palestine.
Hence the question mark in the title - I can't make my mind up if sports and politics should be separated, or can be. | |
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| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 12:40 - Aug 3 with 3139 views | robith |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 10:27 - Aug 3 by Mytch_QPR |
It's good to know that Great Britain has never committed any abuse of human rights like, say, slavery. |
Well, you can't blame him for not knowing, we had an actual, concentrated government operation to get rid of all the evidence of Britain's horrors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Legacy
Kenya, Tasmania, Bengal, Ireland. Britain would be much more successful and free if it came to terms with her colonial past in the way Germany has with the crimes of the Nazis. I can't help but notice there is a rather large overlap of people who think the EU is monstrous foreign body that denies us our freedom, and people who say the British Empire was a good thing |  | | |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 12:42 - Aug 3 with 3131 views | robith |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 12:15 - Aug 3 by BrianMcCarthy |
Good point. Little consolation to the hundreds of thousands of Irish slaves imprisoned and sold by the English, but the anti-slavery moment when it came was laudable. |
Brian, I respect you a great deal, but Irish slaves is a massive myth and to conflate the slave trade with indentured servitude is v dangerous in my opinion | | | |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 12:44 - Aug 3 with 3120 views | robith |
| Sports and Politics Shouldn't Mix? on 11:08 - Aug 3 by danehoop |
Agreed, but equally and probably less well known is the steps that they took to stop slavery once William Wilberforce led the change to law in 1807. Wikipedia provides a surprisingly good summary of measures that the British took either unilaterally or multilaterally to end the slave trade globally thereafter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_Trade_Act_1807 |
Being generous though, Britain's efforts were partially driven by ensuring their economy wasn't undercut by those continuing to use slave labour | | | |
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