| Jeremy Corbyn 12:42 - Jul 24 with 117117 views | CountyJim |
I'm going to vote for him was going to go with Burnham but the amount of crap he's put up with and with dignity
He's a man of principal don't share his views on the monarch but we all have different points of view
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 19:49 - Jul 24 with 2023 views | waynekerr55 |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 19:47 - Jul 24 by exiledclaseboy |
He sleeps on the bed. Or basically wherever takes his fancy. We'd keep him hidden, he's only little. |
You'd certainly fit in there, walking him down the holloway road 😂😂😂😂😂 |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 19:49 - Jul 24 with 2023 views | Private_Partz |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 14:15 - Jul 24 by Groo |
He'd be another Michael Foot, totally unelectable at a general election.
The main reason I'd vote against him is his stance on the Falkland Islands, he'd hand them over to Argentina against the wishes of the people who live there and would be an insult to all the families who lost loved ones defending their rights. |
I am left wing but I do have problems with much of their foreign policies. This does not stop me hoping for two different parties offering the electorate a choice thereby paving the way for a truly middle ground party. The electorate would then be faced with clear choices and PR would ensure the middle ground would be the way forward. The thought of a Labour and Tory party united in hammering the poor whilst letting the rich off scot free is too horrible to contemplate for me. |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 20:57 - Jul 24 with 1973 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Good old Jez
hes got them all running scared fair play
tories
new labour
planet swans
great stuff. |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:00 - Jul 24 with 1971 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 20:57 - Jul 24 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Good old Jez
hes got them all running scared fair play
tories
new labour
planet swans
great stuff. |
Running scared is a slightly strange interpretation of this thread fair play :-) |  | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:06 - Jul 24 with 1952 views | WarwickHunt |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 20:57 - Jul 24 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Good old Jez
hes got them all running scared fair play
tories
new labour
planet swans
great stuff. |
The Tories will be holding street parties if Corbyn wins the leadership.
The Telegraph is urging readers to join the Labour Party for £3 and vote for him. |  | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:06 - Jul 24 with 1916 views | Dr_Winston |
A man who put his political beliefs ahead of the welfare of his own child. A living, breathing example of the lunatic elements of the left. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:09 - Jul 24 with 1910 views | waynekerr55 |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:06 - Jul 24 by WarwickHunt |
The Tories will be holding street parties if Corbyn wins the leadership.
The Telegraph is urging readers to join the Labour Party for £3 and vote for him. |
Will you be the only one not partying in SHEEN if this happens my Lord? | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:10 - Jul 24 with 1903 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 20:57 - Jul 24 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Good old Jez
hes got them all running scared fair play
tories
new labour
planet swans
great stuff. |
Not so much running scared as pissing themselves with laughter. Electing Corbyn will be giftwrapping the next election for the Tories. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:10 - Jul 24 with 1901 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:06 - Jul 24 by Dr_Winston |
A man who put his political beliefs ahead of the welfare of his own child. A living, breathing example of the lunatic elements of the left. |
Apart from his child did actually go to both the private Montessori school and the grammar school of course ;-) | | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:13 - Jul 24 with 1897 views | WarwickHunt |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:09 - Jul 24 by waynekerr55 |
Will you be the only one not partying in SHEEN if this happens my Lord? |
Used to be a Lib Dem constituency. Can't move for lefty Guardian-reading meejah whores drinking free Americanos from Waitrose...  | | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:16 - Jul 24 with 1882 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:10 - Jul 24 by londonlisa2001 |
Apart from his child did actually go to both the private Montessori school and the grammar school of course ;-) |
Didn't it take a divorce to make that happen?
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:18 - Jul 24 with 1876 views | monmouth |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:10 - Jul 24 by londonlisa2001 |
Apart from his child did actually go to both the private Montessori school and the grammar school of course ;-) |
That's no good then. To be politically useful your child has to die on the NHS. |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:22 - Jul 24 with 1867 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:16 - Jul 24 by Dr_Winston |
Didn't it take a divorce to make that happen?
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Don't know. He says it is the reason that he and his wife split up, but that sounds a little odd. May be true, but the kids still went there.
They certainly didn't split up over the private Montessori school because they were still arguing over the secondary school which was years later. | | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:25 - Jul 24 with 1854 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:22 - Jul 24 by londonlisa2001 |
Don't know. He says it is the reason that he and his wife split up, but that sounds a little odd. May be true, but the kids still went there.
They certainly didn't split up over the private Montessori school because they were still arguing over the secondary school which was years later. |
I was quite mean about it, but I will actually give him some credit for it, as moronic as it is to not want the best possible education for your kids. At least he didn't send his kids to a good school whilst trying to deny that choice to others like Diane Abbott.
He's electoral poison as far as Labour are concerned though. Like Clasey said, they're up against it no matter who they elect. With him in charge they'd be touch and go to stay as the second party. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:25 - Jul 24 with 1853 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:06 - Jul 24 by Dr_Winston |
A man who put his political beliefs ahead of the welfare of his own child. A living, breathing example of the lunatic elements of the left. |
Except that he did the exact opposite. If you're going to slate him at least make an effort to do some research. |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:26 - Jul 24 with 1852 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:18 - Jul 24 by monmouth |
That's no good then. To be politically useful your child has to die on the NHS. |
That's a bit unfair Mon. I think Dave is a prat, and I also think he mentions it too often, but I have seen the family out and about a few times when Ivan was alive and before Dave became PM and you can't imagine a more loving family with the little one.
I think it is just a misguided attempt to try to say to people 'I am one of you' and it's the only way he can, but I genuinely don't believe that for all he's an arse, he would deliberately use the death of his son. | | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:28 - Jul 24 with 1842 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:26 - Jul 24 by londonlisa2001 |
That's a bit unfair Mon. I think Dave is a prat, and I also think he mentions it too often, but I have seen the family out and about a few times when Ivan was alive and before Dave became PM and you can't imagine a more loving family with the little one.
I think it is just a misguided attempt to try to say to people 'I am one of you' and it's the only way he can, but I genuinely don't believe that for all he's an arse, he would deliberately use the death of his son. |
I don't doubt what you say about him being a family man but he's also as calculating a politician as there is. He's invoked Ivan too often for it not to be blatant politicking. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:31 - Jul 24 with 1839 views | monmouth |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:26 - Jul 24 by londonlisa2001 |
That's a bit unfair Mon. I think Dave is a prat, and I also think he mentions it too often, but I have seen the family out and about a few times when Ivan was alive and before Dave became PM and you can't imagine a more loving family with the little one.
I think it is just a misguided attempt to try to say to people 'I am one of you' and it's the only way he can, but I genuinely don't believe that for all he's an arse, he would deliberately use the death of his son. |
You have more faith than me Lis, although I'm not questioning the love for the child. I think he, or any of them actually, would still use anything they could, and I do believe that was a deliberate strategy as pre planned as the shirtsleeve crap. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:32 - Jul 24 with 1834 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:06 - Jul 24 by WarwickHunt |
The Tories will be holding street parties if Corbyn wins the leadership.
The Telegraph is urging readers to join the Labour Party for £3 and vote for him. |
If it's online registration most Telegraph fogies won't have a clue where to start. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:32 - Jul 24 with 1832 views | WarwickHunt |
From Andrew Rawnsley, author of two excellent books on the Labour Party in recent times.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/19/corbyn-communist-labour-lea
If you can't be arsed to read it all, here's the last two paragraphs -
Meanwhile, out in the real world, serious people are investigating the true reasons why Labour came 98 seats behind the Conservatives in England and Wales, and secured 2 million fewer votes than the Tories. Today, we report on the findings of a study into an illuminating segment of the electorate: lifelong Labour voters in key marginals who stuck with the party even in the dismal context of 2010, only to finally desert it in 2015. A few of these lost Labour voters scattered to Ukip, the Lib Dems and the Greens. Most of them switched to the Tories. They told the researchers that they abandoned Labour because they didn’t trust the party with the economy, tax and spending, couldn’t see Ed Miliband as prime minister and regarded Labour as a party for welfare, not a party for the average family that wanted to get on in life. Not one of these ex-Labour voters said they rejected the party because it was not promising to establish a revolutionary socialist republic.
I am tempted to argue that Labour should go right ahead, make David Cameron’s day, choose Jeremy Corbyn and field him as its leader at the next election, so that the thesis that Labour loses because it isn’t left wing enough is finally tested to the destruction that it so richly deserves. Except that once he had been buried under a Tory landslide, I suspect that the fantasist tendency would still somehow manage to muster an argument that Lenin-cap Labour had failed because he was not quite left wing enough either. | | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:35 - Jul 24 with 1828 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:32 - Jul 24 by WarwickHunt |
From Andrew Rawnsley, author of two excellent books on the Labour Party in recent times.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/19/corbyn-communist-labour-lea
If you can't be arsed to read it all, here's the last two paragraphs -
Meanwhile, out in the real world, serious people are investigating the true reasons why Labour came 98 seats behind the Conservatives in England and Wales, and secured 2 million fewer votes than the Tories. Today, we report on the findings of a study into an illuminating segment of the electorate: lifelong Labour voters in key marginals who stuck with the party even in the dismal context of 2010, only to finally desert it in 2015. A few of these lost Labour voters scattered to Ukip, the Lib Dems and the Greens. Most of them switched to the Tories. They told the researchers that they abandoned Labour because they didn’t trust the party with the economy, tax and spending, couldn’t see Ed Miliband as prime minister and regarded Labour as a party for welfare, not a party for the average family that wanted to get on in life. Not one of these ex-Labour voters said they rejected the party because it was not promising to establish a revolutionary socialist republic.
I am tempted to argue that Labour should go right ahead, make David Cameron’s day, choose Jeremy Corbyn and field him as its leader at the next election, so that the thesis that Labour loses because it isn’t left wing enough is finally tested to the destruction that it so richly deserves. Except that once he had been buried under a Tory landslide, I suspect that the fantasist tendency would still somehow manage to muster an argument that Lenin-cap Labour had failed because he was not quite left wing enough either. |
The last para is almost exactly what I said earlier in this thread. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:39 - Jul 24 with 1811 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:25 - Jul 24 by Dr_Winston |
I was quite mean about it, but I will actually give him some credit for it, as moronic as it is to not want the best possible education for your kids. At least he didn't send his kids to a good school whilst trying to deny that choice to others like Diane Abbott.
He's electoral poison as far as Labour are concerned though. Like Clasey said, they're up against it no matter who they elect. With him in charge they'd be touch and go to stay as the second party. |
Who'd you fancy taking over as the second party? As doomed as Labour's hopes of winning are, no other party is even close to being the opposition. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:45 - Jul 24 with 1795 views | VetchitBack |
Two rather similar points.
The centre is in fact not central at all but leftist orthodoxy.
Cant't believe people still describe man who imported 3 million immigrants to "rub the Right's noses in diversity" and to "make the UK truly multicultural" as centrist?! |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:51 - Jul 24 with 1778 views | VetchitBack |
Third point.
Cameron's Tories are the heirs to New Labour. It's why the BBC have never destroyed him like they did IDS and Howard. He's one of them.
New Labourites don't need to have a Labour Govt to get what they want anymore. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:54 - Jul 24 with 1766 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:39 - Jul 24 by exiledclaseboy |
Who'd you fancy taking over as the second party? As doomed as Labour's hopes of winning are, no other party is even close to being the opposition. |
I don't see any one party making massive strides and replacing them, but I wouldn't be surprised if their share of the vote got whittled away to leave them battling to stay ahead of others. Wouldn't rule out the prospects of an SDP style split between the Blairites and the rest either.
On top of that, for all the talk pre-election of UKIP having the Tories on the run they arguably gained the most against Labour. Like them or not, their anti-immigration and associated nonsense appeals to what should be the core Labour working class vote who don't look to deeply into the rest of what they have to say.
Lot of problems for them in the next five years. | |
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