| Vorm 14:18 - Aug 24 with 10612 views | thejack1912 |
Doesn't even make the Spurs bench  |  |
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| Vorm on 14:24 - Aug 24 with 6050 views | JethroJack |
Doris Mk II. |  | | |
| Vorm on 14:29 - Aug 24 with 6031 views | londonlisa2001 |
Looks like that Utrecht case is getting weaker and weaker as the weeks go by.... | | | |
| Vorm on 14:32 - Aug 24 with 6017 views | Huw57 |
Davies on the bench again too. |  |
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| Vorm on 14:34 - Aug 24 with 6005 views | Rancid |
He didn't Tweet a goodbye and thank you message to us so phuck him. |  | | |
| Vorm on 14:35 - Aug 24 with 5997 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vorm on 14:32 - Aug 24 by Huw57 |
Davies on the bench again too. |
I'm not sure that is all going to plan.
According to Spurs fans, Ben was bought to replace Danny Rose as first choice. Within a fairly short time of Ben getting to Spurs they offered Rose a new 5 year deal and he remains first choice. Maybe Ben is not doing as well in training as he and Spurs themselves hoped? £10m is a lot to pay for a reserve left back.
Ah well, as Darran would say ......... | | | |
| Vorm on 14:38 - Aug 24 with 5968 views | epaul |
| Vorm on 14:35 - Aug 24 by londonlisa2001 |
I'm not sure that is all going to plan.
According to Spurs fans, Ben was bought to replace Danny Rose as first choice. Within a fairly short time of Ben getting to Spurs they offered Rose a new 5 year deal and he remains first choice. Maybe Ben is not doing as well in training as he and Spurs themselves hoped? £10m is a lot to pay for a reserve left back.
Ah well, as Darran would say ......... |
My mate a Spurs fan said the same, he can't understand why Ben aint starting ahead of Rose |  |
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| Vorm on 14:43 - Aug 24 with 5943 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vorm on 14:38 - Aug 24 by epaul |
My mate a Spurs fan said the same, he can't understand why Ben aint starting ahead of Rose |
I know a few big Spurs fans and they all pretty much think Rose is crap (I have never noticed if I watch them on the tv or against us but they really don't like him). Mind you, they don't appear overly impressed with Ben at the moment? | | | |
| Vorm on 14:44 - Aug 24 with 5935 views | Zut_Alors |
Hope Ben does well, suspect he'll get a shot once they've lost a game or two. |  | | |
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| Vorm on 14:46 - Aug 24 with 5917 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vorm on 14:44 - Aug 24 by Zut_Alors |
Hope Ben does well, suspect he'll get a shot once they've lost a game or two. |
I do too as he seems like a nice lad. Having said that, I thought he was overrated and our weak spot last season and I think he would have been better off not moving to a 'big' club so soon. Hopefully I'm proved wrong but the fans of these clubs are so unforgiving it makes our moaners looks like Laker girls. | | | |
| Vorm on 14:50 - Aug 24 with 5880 views | Zut_Alors |
| Vorm on 14:46 - Aug 24 by londonlisa2001 |
I do too as he seems like a nice lad. Having said that, I thought he was overrated and our weak spot last season and I think he would have been better off not moving to a 'big' club so soon. Hopefully I'm proved wrong but the fans of these clubs are so unforgiving it makes our moaners looks like Laker girls. |
The fact that he came into the side and did so well was obviously going to attract a lot of praise. For a young lad, though, I think Laudrup could have perhaps given him some better instruction. Likewise Monk could have done with playing Taylor in a few more games, as I think Ben was knackered. | | | |
| Vorm on 15:06 - Aug 24 with 5791 views | lifelong |
| Vorm on 14:46 - Aug 24 by londonlisa2001 |
I do too as he seems like a nice lad. Having said that, I thought he was overrated and our weak spot last season and I think he would have been better off not moving to a 'big' club so soon. Hopefully I'm proved wrong but the fans of these clubs are so unforgiving it makes our moaners looks like Laker girls. |
Can't agree that Ben was our weak spot, in fact if he was still here he probably would have started yesterday with Taylor on the bench.
With Ben and Taylor here our left back position was well covered, Ben hasn't been replaced and he needs to be. |  | | |
| Vorm on 15:15 - Aug 24 with 5750 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vorm on 15:06 - Aug 24 by lifelong |
Can't agree that Ben was our weak spot, in fact if he was still here he probably would have started yesterday with Taylor on the bench.
With Ben and Taylor here our left back position was well covered, Ben hasn't been replaced and he needs to be. |
I'm sure that he would have started - Monk obviously had a much better opinion of him than I ever did. I thought last season our 'soft' goals always came from him being out of position and slow to get back.
I've said on here many times though that I know I was in a minority.
I still think that Taylor before his injury was the better player - doesn't seem to have recovered from that fully at the moment though, although I thought he was better yesterday than a week ago and hope that a run in the side will help.
I think we need full back cover though - on both sides actually. | | | |
| Vorm on 15:36 - Aug 24 with 5670 views | JethroJack |
Let's wait till the January window.......and put in a cheeky £5M bid for Ben. | | | |
| Vorm on 15:55 - Aug 24 with 5586 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Ben should have been dropped last season, not only for the teams benefit but for his own good too.
He was playing very poorly and he desperately needed a rest. It definitely stunted his development and I am amazed Taylor didn't throw his toys out of the pram for a second time because he had a valid reason to do so last year. |  |
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| Vorm on 16:58 - Aug 24 with 5461 views | bluenile |
| Vorm on 15:55 - Aug 24 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Ben should have been dropped last season, not only for the teams benefit but for his own good too.
He was playing very poorly and he desperately needed a rest. It definitely stunted his development and I am amazed Taylor didn't throw his toys out of the pram for a second time because he had a valid reason to do so last year. |
DYS in 'talking sense' shock horror probe...................... |  |
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| Vorm on 17:01 - Aug 24 with 5440 views | perchrockjack |
True.
Ben financially has made a life defining move but career wise not the best as I believe he ll be found out at this stage.
With a bigger club comes bigger pressure.
Pochi won't give him any mercy | |
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| Vorm on 17:15 - Aug 24 with 5398 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vorm on 17:01 - Aug 24 by perchrockjack |
True.
Ben financially has made a life defining move but career wise not the best as I believe he ll be found out at this stage.
With a bigger club comes bigger pressure.
Pochi won't give him any mercy |
but the thing I never understand is that the money that they all earn with us is more than enough anyway for several lifetimes. If Ben had stayed and become a 'key player' he would be on the best part of £30-£35k per week. He's only 22, he would earn enough, it's not like we're talking about our players signing for a club and earning £50k per week when they've been on £2k is it? None of them ever seem to think longer term than next week's pay packet. | | | |
| Vorm on 17:20 - Aug 24 with 5368 views | perchrockjack |
Lisa.
It's modern footballer mentality.
Why would a player earning 150k and living in a vibrant part of the world want to up sticks for another. 50 k.
It's not really gonna be spent but most see it as ego thing ergo I'm the best player so I want the highest wage.
I would love a salary cap world wide | |
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| Vorm on 17:24 - Aug 24 with 5345 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vorm on 17:20 - Aug 24 by perchrockjack |
Lisa.
It's modern footballer mentality.
Why would a player earning 150k and living in a vibrant part of the world want to up sticks for another. 50 k.
It's not really gonna be spent but most see it as ego thing ergo I'm the best player so I want the highest wage.
I would love a salary cap world wide |
I agree re ego - I think it's all about that. I am perceived as a better player if I play for Spurs rather than Swansea type stuff. Ironically, of course, he'd be perceived of as a better player by playing for us than warming his backside on the Spurs bench, but, again, they always believe themselves to be better than they are, and seemingly no one ever has a quiet word to tell them to wait for a bit because their agents want to move if anything more than they do.
Never ever learn. Shame. | | | |
| Vorm on 17:33 - Aug 24 with 5301 views | icecoldjack |
So nobody thinks Ben was helped through the door the secure the Siggy deal then ?
Ben has a few faults and it looks like they have already been discovered at Spurs, he will come good though its only been 2 games ! |  | | |
| Vorm on 17:38 - Aug 24 with 5286 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vorm on 17:33 - Aug 24 by icecoldjack |
So nobody thinks Ben was helped through the door the secure the Siggy deal then ?
Ben has a few faults and it looks like they have already been discovered at Spurs, he will come good though its only been 2 games ! |
I'm not saying that - I'm talking about the player and I believe that if Ben had wanted to stay, he would have done.
Agree re early days, but it should be put in context a bit - this wasn't Spurs signing someone where they felt they were already strong to provide good competition, this was them signing someone to go straight into their first team in the area they perceived to be very weak. And it's also not like joining after the season starts and taking a few weeks to settle before being picked - he joined them for most of the business end of pre season. | | | |
| Vorm on 17:49 - Aug 24 with 5257 views | Rancid |
I don't think young Ben had a say in the matter.  He was being sold whether it to fund the Gylffi deal or another.I can't remember the club saying at any time he's not for sale.The only problem was going to be for how much. | | | |
| Vorm on 17:52 - Aug 24 with 5246 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vorm on 17:49 - Aug 24 by Rancid |
I don't think young Ben had a say in the matter. He was being sold whether it to fund the Gylffi deal or another.I can't remember the club saying at any time he's not for sale.The only problem was going to be for how much. |
well you may be right, but I had thought that we didn't say he wasn't for sale since he made it so clear he wanted to go to Spurs. Otherwise believe we would have sold Taylor instead (if Ben had wanted to stay). | | | |
| Vorm on 18:03 - Aug 24 with 5212 views | Rancid |
| Vorm on 17:52 - Aug 24 by londonlisa2001 |
well you may be right, but I had thought that we didn't say he wasn't for sale since he made it so clear he wanted to go to Spurs. Otherwise believe we would have sold Taylor instead (if Ben had wanted to stay). |
I think once Luke Shaw was sold to United the writing was on the wall for Ben.They were similar players and age there or thereabouts and often compared so him going for crazy money would have made our board sit up and take notice.
I might be wrong but I can't remember Ben saying where he wanted to go, it seemed to be to the highest bidder and once we pinpointed Gylffi, Spurs it was. | | | |
| Vorm on 18:33 - Aug 24 with 5149 views | orion3016 |
Is vorm injured? Otherwise being behind the pecking order for a 40 something goalie , just makes you wonder why they bothered buying him |  |
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