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Yes exactly, that will be lost on a lot of people that don't know about the rape gangs and drug gangs and the police doing next to nothing, it seems like the police are on the baddies side up there it's very odd.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
Yes exactly, that will be lost on a lot of people that don't know about the rape gangs and drug gangs and the police doing next to nothing, it seems like the police are on the baddies side up there it's very odd.
They convicted over 230 men mate.
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Manchester airport on 22:15 - Jul 27 by KeithHaynes
Agreed but an investigation like that takes months, otherwise the whole thing collapses.
Absolutely.
The police hardly covered themselves in glory with many of these investigations but it’s far from straight forward and not as clear cut as many think.
I can easily believe the interests of community relations may have been in some people’s thoughts, but I can also appreciate that many of the victims were targeted and groomed because they were vulnerable, lived dysfunctional life styles, probably were involved in substance abuse, potential criminality and all these factors could/would impact on their credibility at Court. The reason they were targeted in the first place was because of their vulnerabilities and what many would perceive to be a lack of credibility.
Putting things in perspective, we’ve got Rochdale and Saville on the one hand where the police got it wrong by failing to bring offenders to justice, but the flip side of the coin includes Op Midland where the police took a complainant (Carl Beech) seriously, took positive action and information which ended up being a pack of fibs. The fall out was innocent people had their reputations destroyed. I can also recall a high profile football manager being maliciously accused of wrong doing.
The police often find themselves in a difficult position, who do you believe and when do you believe them? It’s easy for the hindsight brigade to come along in the cold light of day after the fact and pick holes in things. The police have made mistakes and they are trying to learn from them, but there are also times they get it spot on and bang up some pretty bad people.
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Manchester airport on 23:03 - Jul 27 by majorraglan
Absolutely.
The police hardly covered themselves in glory with many of these investigations but it’s far from straight forward and not as clear cut as many think.
I can easily believe the interests of community relations may have been in some people’s thoughts, but I can also appreciate that many of the victims were targeted and groomed because they were vulnerable, lived dysfunctional life styles, probably were involved in substance abuse, potential criminality and all these factors could/would impact on their credibility at Court. The reason they were targeted in the first place was because of their vulnerabilities and what many would perceive to be a lack of credibility.
Putting things in perspective, we’ve got Rochdale and Saville on the one hand where the police got it wrong by failing to bring offenders to justice, but the flip side of the coin includes Op Midland where the police took a complainant (Carl Beech) seriously, took positive action and information which ended up being a pack of fibs. The fall out was innocent people had their reputations destroyed. I can also recall a high profile football manager being maliciously accused of wrong doing.
The police often find themselves in a difficult position, who do you believe and when do you believe them? It’s easy for the hindsight brigade to come along in the cold light of day after the fact and pick holes in things. The police have made mistakes and they are trying to learn from them, but there are also times they get it spot on and bang up some pretty bad people.
On Saville, the only person to speak out was John Lydon when he was seventeen and with the sex pistols, the BBC suppressed that interview for years and years.
On Rochdale, many decisions were made by the hierarchy to protect their own standing, promotion etc. Nobody will convince me that the people who do the real investigation and don’t go home at 4pm each day would pull that inquiry, that’s come from above for sure. It’s a shame but that’s corruption, at the top not with those who do the actual job. 👍
People get confused at times, or it’s in their own agenda to not believe.
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Manchester airport on 10:26 - Jul 28 by KeithHaynes
On Saville, the only person to speak out was John Lydon when he was seventeen and with the sex pistols, the BBC suppressed that interview for years and years.
On Rochdale, many decisions were made by the hierarchy to protect their own standing, promotion etc. Nobody will convince me that the people who do the real investigation and don’t go home at 4pm each day would pull that inquiry, that’s come from above for sure. It’s a shame but that’s corruption, at the top not with those who do the actual job. 👍
People get confused at times, or it’s in their own agenda to not believe.
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Yes I agree. It’s a morally rotten hierarchy that turn a blind eye to Asian grooming gangs for so long as well as protecting Saville and Cyril Smith etc.
Manchester airport on 10:26 - Jul 28 by KeithHaynes
On Saville, the only person to speak out was John Lydon when he was seventeen and with the sex pistols, the BBC suppressed that interview for years and years.
On Rochdale, many decisions were made by the hierarchy to protect their own standing, promotion etc. Nobody will convince me that the people who do the real investigation and don’t go home at 4pm each day would pull that inquiry, that’s come from above for sure. It’s a shame but that’s corruption, at the top not with those who do the actual job. 👍
People get confused at times, or it’s in their own agenda to not believe.
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People had believe believe this post is 100% correct
My final say on the airport thing, these armed police had every right to engage with their firearms. They didn’t because they used minimum force to quell and prevent further disorder.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
Manchester airport on 23:03 - Jul 27 by majorraglan
Absolutely.
The police hardly covered themselves in glory with many of these investigations but it’s far from straight forward and not as clear cut as many think.
I can easily believe the interests of community relations may have been in some people’s thoughts, but I can also appreciate that many of the victims were targeted and groomed because they were vulnerable, lived dysfunctional life styles, probably were involved in substance abuse, potential criminality and all these factors could/would impact on their credibility at Court. The reason they were targeted in the first place was because of their vulnerabilities and what many would perceive to be a lack of credibility.
Putting things in perspective, we’ve got Rochdale and Saville on the one hand where the police got it wrong by failing to bring offenders to justice, but the flip side of the coin includes Op Midland where the police took a complainant (Carl Beech) seriously, took positive action and information which ended up being a pack of fibs. The fall out was innocent people had their reputations destroyed. I can also recall a high profile football manager being maliciously accused of wrong doing.
The police often find themselves in a difficult position, who do you believe and when do you believe them? It’s easy for the hindsight brigade to come along in the cold light of day after the fact and pick holes in things. The police have made mistakes and they are trying to learn from them, but there are also times they get it spot on and bang up some pretty bad people.
Are the police infiltrated up there ?, what is community policing ?, does that mean Asians policing Asian areas ?
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
This issue is nothing to do with race. The connection between this event and Rochdale Blackburn and Saville plays into the Tommy Robinson toxic playbook.
This was down right thuggery at an airport where security is particularly tough. If I punched two women police officers hard I would expect a long prison sentence and some rough treatment.
The presence of the old lady probably saved the lives of the protagonists. who might otherwise have been shot dead.
The demonstration in Manchester seemed quite muted to me suggesting the community knew or suspected the original video did not tell the whole story and might not be race related. The fact they are out on bail may be related to race concerns and allow for a cooling off period and sem reflection.
Knocking out two women police officers? No one gets away with that.
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