| Club Statement on 15:47 - Jan 13 with 6376 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
How embarrassing that this sort of thing has to be done these days.
Shame on us. |  | |  |
| Club Statement on 15:56 - Jan 13 with 6291 views | Bobbyjoe |
It's not much of a claim to any moral high ground, is it? | | | |
| Club Statement on 15:57 - Jan 13 with 6286 views | oddjob007 |
| Club Statement on 15:47 - Jan 13 by Yorkshire_Dale |
How embarrassing that this sort of thing has to be done these days.
Shame on us. |
If this is proved to be true. Disgusting, throw the book at him and sack him, no place for that. | | | |
| Club Statement on 16:00 - Jan 13 with 6256 views | 49thseason |
As I pointed out elsewhere this should have been sorted out in Dunphy's office at 9.00 this morning. Leaving the "investigation" till Monday just gives time to add petrol to the flames. We already look to the outside world as if we are not really interested in taking the lead and getting to the truth. |  | | |
| Club Statement on 16:16 - Jan 13 with 6188 views | YouTubeDale |
IF Grant is found guilty then he should pay for his crime. If that means we can still play him for the rest of the season (whatever that is) then we should. Sacking him could be a further body blow for our season. There is no need to punish ourselves further. We need every bit of help we can get. The club has already condemned racist acts and will stand by the punishment, if any. We then have to move on.
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| Club Statement on 16:20 - Jan 13 with 6146 views | MoonyDale |
| Club Statement on 16:16 - Jan 13 by YouTubeDale |
IF Grant is found guilty then he should pay for his crime. If that means we can still play him for the rest of the season (whatever that is) then we should. Sacking him could be a further body blow for our season. There is no need to punish ourselves further. We need every bit of help we can get. The club has already condemned racist acts and will stand by the punishment, if any. We then have to move on.
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8 match ban and a fine if found guilty, I would show him the door. |  |
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| Club Statement on 16:26 - Jan 13 with 6108 views | judd |
| Club Statement on 16:20 - Jan 13 by MoonyDale |
8 match ban and a fine if found guilty, I would show him the door. |
Precedent has already been set for those found guilty by the FA.
Met Police involved could lead to a criminal prosecution and that may lead to contract termination if a guilty verdict is reached.
Let's see what the outcome is. |  |
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| Club Statement on 16:36 - Jan 13 with 6057 views | YouTubeDale |
| Club Statement on 16:20 - Jan 13 by MoonyDale |
8 match ban and a fine if found guilty, I would show him the door. |
IF found guilty, and an 8 match ban, it could be disastrous for the club. How much of a fine - we don't know. This could be the turning point for the rest of the season. Coleman's "plans" may have to change now. For example, he might have to get Curran back from Chester (sorry, I can't remember his loan period now). Chris Dunphy might have to spend even more money on wages to steady the ship.
It's a nightmare (potentially).
Even more reason for supporters to get behind Rochdale Football Club instead of staying away. | |
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| Club Statement (n/t) on 16:41 - Jan 13 with 6013 views | D_Dale |
| Club Statement on 16:00 - Jan 13 by 49thseason |
As I pointed out elsewhere this should have been sorted out in Dunphy's office at 9.00 this morning. Leaving the "investigation" till Monday just gives time to add petrol to the flames. We already look to the outside world as if we are not really interested in taking the lead and getting to the truth. |
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| Club Statement on 16:42 - Jan 13 with 6013 views | D_Alien |
For a footballer who's made a habit of trying to con referees this season, it may not be possible to establish his guilt or innocence but... what goes round doesn't half come round, eh? |  |
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| Club Statement on 16:48 - Jan 13 with 5977 views | SteTsGoldenBoot |
Would have been really interesting if clark carlisle had joined us!
With his PFA links.
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| Club Statement on 16:52 - Jan 13 with 5921 views | RotherhamDale |
Joe Thompsons fault. |  |
| Possession with progression. |
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| Club Statement on 16:54 - Jan 13 with 5909 views | Clivert |
| Club Statement on 16:48 - Jan 13 by SteTsGoldenBoot |
Would have been really interesting if clark carlisle had joined us!
With his PFA links.
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I'm glad that his playing ability put that to bed.
Saying that he isn't from Liverpool and he's never played for Accy. |  | | |
| Club Statement on 17:13 - Jan 13 with 5819 views | YouTubeDale |
If it is one man's statement versus another man's (assuming Grant denies it) and therefore there are no witnesses then surely there can't be any charge.
I am not trying to stand up for Grant if he was racially abusive. I am just trying to put a brave face on it and perhaps he will not face a ban if this is the case. | |
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| Club Statement on 17:19 - Jan 13 with 5780 views | D_Dale |
| Club Statement on 17:13 - Jan 13 by YouTubeDale |
If it is one man's statement versus another man's (assuming Grant denies it) and therefore there are no witnesses then surely there can't be any charge.
I am not trying to stand up for Grant if he was racially abusive. I am just trying to put a brave face on it and perhaps he will not face a ban if this is the case. |
But as I mention on another thread, the D&R statement includes: "The club will fully support Gavin Hoyte during the investigation and has complete faith in his honesty and integrity." In other words, it seems, "if Gavin says he said it, then he did!" I suppose we have to censor ourselves rather than write the (alleged) word. | | | |
| Club Statement on 17:22 - Jan 13 with 5754 views | judd |
| Club Statement on 17:13 - Jan 13 by YouTubeDale |
If it is one man's statement versus another man's (assuming Grant denies it) and therefore there are no witnesses then surely there can't be any charge.
I am not trying to stand up for Grant if he was racially abusive. I am just trying to put a brave face on it and perhaps he will not face a ban if this is the case. |
Another player says he witnessed it. | |
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| Club Statement on 17:24 - Jan 13 with 5732 views | isitme |
| Club Statement on 17:22 - Jan 13 by judd |
Another player says he witnessed it. |
Another policeman witnessed Mitchell call someone a pleb. Which was later found out not to be true. |  | | |
| Club Statement on 17:24 - Jan 13 with 5742 views | YouTubeDale |
| Club Statement on 17:22 - Jan 13 by judd |
Another player says he witnessed it. |
Well, on the face of it, it's not looking good. | |
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| Club Statement on 17:25 - Jan 13 with 5727 views | mightydale |
| Club Statement on 17:22 - Jan 13 by judd |
Another player says he witnessed it. |
Why didnt he say it straight away after game unless he talking shit |  |
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| Club Statement on 17:26 - Jan 13 with 5709 views | D_Dale |
| Club Statement on 17:22 - Jan 13 by judd |
Another player says he witnessed it. |
That would be Abu Ogogo, a D&R player and a trainee at Arsenal at the same time as Gavin Hoyte? | | | |
| Club Statement on 17:27 - Jan 13 with 5707 views | judd |
| Club Statement on 17:24 - Jan 13 by isitme |
Another policeman witnessed Mitchell call someone a pleb. Which was later found out not to be true. |
Mitchell hasn't got his job back. | |
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| Club Statement on 17:28 - Jan 13 with 5693 views | mightydale |
| Club Statement on 17:27 - Jan 13 by judd |
Mitchell hasn't got his job back. |
yet..... | |
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| Club Statement on 17:28 - Jan 13 with 5683 views | isitme |
| Club Statement on 17:27 - Jan 13 by judd |
Mitchell hasn't got his job back. |
Exactly. Sometimes people can get punished on lies and misinformation. Especially if the political will is there and currently racism in football is a very political hot potato. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Club Statement on 17:29 - Jan 13 with 5670 views | mightydale |
| Club Statement on 17:28 - Jan 13 by isitme |
Exactly. Sometimes people can get punished on lies and misinformation. Especially if the political will is there and currently racism in football is a very political hot potato. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Club Statement on 17:32 - Jan 13 with 5645 views | judd |
| Club Statement on 17:28 - Jan 13 by isitme |
Exactly. Sometimes people can get punished on lies and misinformation. Especially if the political will is there and currently racism in football is a very political hot potato. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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I think the police statement you refer to embellished what was actually said, even the the fooker wasn't even there! Mitchell never denied the argument, just the extent of profanity.
The "witness" in the Sun link said the remark was made "apparently" and also that he "heard" it.
Make your own minds up.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4741015/Bobby-Grant-accused- | |
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