| Linford Christie Stadium. 18:04 - Aug 9 with 149034 views | ted_hendrix |
That's where our new ground will be. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 20:45 - Oct 27 with 3521 views | themodfather |
a new ground is going to be £200m? more...if we secure, the land, planning permission, have transport links and all that and likely more. fulham managed to develop one stand as it has the river behind it and no ancient lights to consider.
i think chelsea are extending over the railway behind a stand? could be wrong as well, sod em.
we saw the years of waiting, debate etc over both arsenal and spurs new grounds. sadly as we talked, hoped we have seen so much land near us go, dairy crest, old white city stadium bbc ....the school behind us saw land built on too. this does seem the only roll of the dice left for us to stay in the borough .
unless we get the row of houses behind ellerslie road, loftus road and build out and up with new stands....then go out over SAR and up, which will all cost as much as a new ground, we are catch 22. maybe our local living fans need to get on to their mp and councillors? |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 20:47 - Oct 27 with 3508 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 20:23 - Oct 27 by BostonR |
Interesting read. Sounds like the Board are pressing the council - talk to us otherwise we take our investment elsewhere. |
Similar to what Spurs did with Haringey council.
Interesting he's said west and north only within 2 miles radius. Only thing west I can see remotely viable is the land south of David Lloyd near Acton Park and Twyford Avenue Sports Ground. Both of these I'd have thought were unlikely. North it's the Old Oak Common again or some railway siding or other nearby or possibly Park Royal. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 21:01 - Oct 27 with 3450 views | queensparker |
QPR in some levelled industrial estate in Park Royal is going to be like going to Reading. No pubs, no soul, no history. I genuinely don’t see the point if we’re going to move the club so far away from its base that it’s a brand new experience. I’d rather accept our 18k shithole, do it up, and fight the best we can. |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 21:44 - Oct 27 with 3340 views | dmm |
Gnanalingam speculates any move would take something like 10 so I'm still holding out hope for the LCS. |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 21:47 - Oct 27 with 3321 views | hantssi |
How about Warren Farm, I hear that’s available 😜 | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 22:14 - Oct 27 with 3217 views | DWQPR |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 21:01 - Oct 27 by queensparker |
QPR in some levelled industrial estate in Park Royal is going to be like going to Reading. No pubs, no soul, no history. I genuinely don’t see the point if we’re going to move the club so far away from its base that it’s a brand new experience. I’d rather accept our 18k shithole, do it up, and fight the best we can. |
Actually the history is there in Park Royal, we had the best ground in London at the time, a 60,000 capacity stadium which unfortunately was commandeered by the army for training the troops. Hence the move to LR in 1917. Park Royal is being totally regenerated and certainly a lot of the industry has seen its day and will be torn down and built up into housing and socialising areas. | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 22:44 - Oct 27 with 3104 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 20:23 - Oct 27 by BostonR |
Interesting read. Sounds like the Board are pressing the council - talk to us otherwise we take our investment elsewhere. |
That's how it sounds to me too. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 23:16 - Oct 27 with 3023 views | stevec |
Noticed loftus road is 4.5 acres whereas the new training ground is 27 acres.
Don’t know if there’s housing issues around the training ground but otherwise wouldn’t that be the ideal place to build a new stadium? |  | | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 00:31 - Oct 28 with 2915 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 23:16 - Oct 27 by stevec |
Noticed loftus road is 4.5 acres whereas the new training ground is 27 acres.
Don’t know if there’s housing issues around the training ground but otherwise wouldn’t that be the ideal place to build a new stadium? |
How would 20,000+ people get to it every other week? |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 00:51 - Oct 28 with 2898 views | E17hoop |
How much would it cost to buy out Wasps at Twyford Avenue? |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 07:11 - Oct 28 with 2750 views | essextaxiboy |
How about turning the pitch around , It would mean we could have maybe triple tiers on 3 sides |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 07:26 - Oct 28 with 2701 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 07:11 - Oct 28 by essextaxiboy |
How about turning the pitch around , It would mean we could have maybe triple tiers on 3 sides |
The pitch would stick out on to South Africa Road. Dieng would have to play with jumpers for goalposts. Are our back three quick enough to spot a car coming, shout 'CAR!!!' and leg it back to move the jumpers out of the way? | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:12 - Oct 28 with 2602 views | Northernr |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 23:16 - Oct 27 by stevec |
Noticed loftus road is 4.5 acres whereas the new training ground is 27 acres.
Don’t know if there’s housing issues around the training ground but otherwise wouldn’t that be the ideal place to build a new stadium? |
Not for anybody that's been there.
Pubs - zero
Train - Hayes and Harlington, a 25 minute walk
Tube - Hounslow West, tiny, and also a 25 minute walk
Parking - non existent
Plus it's a heavily residential area. Hello people of Heston, we'd like to stick a 25,000 seat stadium at the end of your road. Oh how they'll laugh. |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:19 - Oct 28 with 2578 views | stevec |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 00:31 - Oct 28 by Northolt_Rs |
How would 20,000+ people get to it every other week? |
Bus stop in Heston. Oops.
The biggest ground in this country is on a 20 acre sight so this place is massive. Doesn’t look that far from Heathrow airport and imagine the club would have its own bars and restaurants and a substantial car park if required.
No idea about housing in the area which would be an issue but otherwise has a lot going for it. Seems the present project being operated by company heavily involved in London stadium and Emirates so they have the right contacts if a new ground did become a proposal.
Edit; that overlapped Clives response!
Mind you if you can get Emirates over the line then who knows. [Post edited 28 Oct 2021 8:22]
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:35 - Oct 28 with 2531 views | wombat |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:12 - Oct 28 by Northernr |
Not for anybody that's been there.
Pubs - zero
Train - Hayes and Harlington, a 25 minute walk
Tube - Hounslow West, tiny, and also a 25 minute walk
Parking - non existent
Plus it's a heavily residential area. Hello people of Heston, we'd like to stick a 25,000 seat stadium at the end of your road. Oh how they'll laugh. |
it would actually be a worse option than Cargiant was and thats saying something , sorry but another major league cock up under uncle tonys reign , defo posturing by the club against the council but such a shame that the ideas the club wanted at the time wasnt acted upon when land was aval and prob would more than likely be half way built with prob the best transport links we or any club could ever want ion london right on its door step , supposedly the club never looked at dairy crest as an option ! site i think was sold for 108 million which for prime west london land is a bloody steal |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:52 - Oct 28 with 2482 views | bosh67 |
I've always said that with the right planning and architects that Loftus Road could be completely redesigned to hold about 23000 which is catchment wise all we are ever going to get. It is a 10 minute walk from trains and the club would do better to come to some arrangement in the area to gain car park lease arrangements somewhere in Shepherd's Bush or north of the ground somewhere. The bottom line is with rail sating in the lower sections, a total rebuild with boxes etc in a high tech roof and the club actually leasing or owning car parks in the area, which would turn a profit, we would be better off staying where we are. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:57 - Oct 28 with 2465 views | BostonR |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 21:44 - Oct 27 by dmm |
Gnanalingam speculates any move would take something like 10 so I'm still holding out hope for the LCS. |
If you read the small print from the the budget yesterday local councils now have a £6B hole to cover, thanks to the Tories. Council budgets are fragile, so any serious investment will get "air-time" but it appears the Board are in-patient with H&F for all the right reasons.
It's a good ploy to lean on them and show them our cards, but I was always certain that the council would engage, but now I am not so sure. I am not sure LR can be sustained for another 10yrs, without huge investment and I guess this is why the Board are calling this out.
Interesting times. |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:59 - Oct 28 with 3533 views | Northernr |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:35 - Oct 28 by wombat |
it would actually be a worse option than Cargiant was and thats saying something , sorry but another major league cock up under uncle tonys reign , defo posturing by the club against the council but such a shame that the ideas the club wanted at the time wasnt acted upon when land was aval and prob would more than likely be half way built with prob the best transport links we or any club could ever want ion london right on its door step , supposedly the club never looked at dairy crest as an option ! site i think was sold for 108 million which for prime west london land is a bloody steal |
Every time I walk through White City and look at the land that's been developed there, huge patch north of Westfield, huge patch between TVC and the Westway, I think of all the opportunities missed.
I don't get why the council is so down on the LCS idea. I'm not convinced the site would work, particularly access wise, and obviously the open land thing is an issue, but it feels like a win win project to me. | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 09:23 - Oct 28 with 3402 views | wombat |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:59 - Oct 28 by Northernr |
Every time I walk through White City and look at the land that's been developed there, huge patch north of Westfield, huge patch between TVC and the Westway, I think of all the opportunities missed.
I don't get why the council is so down on the LCS idea. I'm not convinced the site would work, particularly access wise, and obviously the open land thing is an issue, but it feels like a win win project to me. |
With LCS it prob has more problems ahead than Cargiant was ever going to have. residents gov land access awful , hospital behind it , so massive hurdles to overcome before a spade is put in the ground , the clubs original ideas of a multi use stadium , Great links etc was sound they just cocked it up by going for car giant , esp when better options were aval , had prob no planning issues but cost some money for the land which in the bigger picture was a drop in the ocean.
plan A buy the land build a stadium selll remainder of the land to
developers aka wembley loads of flats etc
Plan B sell land to hotel chain build a new hotel badly needed in the area off set the build cost of the ground in part.
now we are scratching around for anything anywhere to bu something . | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 09:37 - Oct 28 with 3344 views | BostonR |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:59 - Oct 28 by Northernr |
Every time I walk through White City and look at the land that's been developed there, huge patch north of Westfield, huge patch between TVC and the Westway, I think of all the opportunities missed.
I don't get why the council is so down on the LCS idea. I'm not convinced the site would work, particularly access wise, and obviously the open land thing is an issue, but it feels like a win win project to me. |
I suspect that the LCS option has major land covenants, interested parties and some planning complexities - all resolvable in my view.
What we don't know is who else is talking to H&F other than QPR. | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 09:45 - Oct 28 with 3310 views | wombat |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 09:37 - Oct 28 by BostonR |
I suspect that the LCS option has major land covenants, interested parties and some planning complexities - all resolvable in my view.
What we don't know is who else is talking to H&F other than QPR. |
Wouldnt imagine many people are suddenly looking at LCS its been run down for years, the planning problems would be huge and to be honest was always going to be more of a problem than car giant was going to be . The famed HS2 hub which uncle tony made such huge selling point off has been delayed again and isnt due to break ground to next year now , thats also been downsized from the original plans. its a huge mistake by the board to not look at all better options aval when they was screwing around with car giant ,
big question is now is are they happy to keep pumping cash into the club long term ? [Post edited 28 Oct 2021 10:03]
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 10:33 - Oct 28 with 3191 views | PunteR |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 08:52 - Oct 28 by bosh67 |
I've always said that with the right planning and architects that Loftus Road could be completely redesigned to hold about 23000 which is catchment wise all we are ever going to get. It is a 10 minute walk from trains and the club would do better to come to some arrangement in the area to gain car park lease arrangements somewhere in Shepherd's Bush or north of the ground somewhere. The bottom line is with rail sating in the lower sections, a total rebuild with boxes etc in a high tech roof and the club actually leasing or owning car parks in the area, which would turn a profit, we would be better off staying where we are. |
I doubt the owners want to spend millions on doing that with little return ?
I personally think its doable but is there anything in it for the owners. ? |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 10:35 - Oct 28 with 3186 views | BostonR |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 09:45 - Oct 28 by wombat |
Wouldnt imagine many people are suddenly looking at LCS its been run down for years, the planning problems would be huge and to be honest was always going to be more of a problem than car giant was going to be . The famed HS2 hub which uncle tony made such huge selling point off has been delayed again and isnt due to break ground to next year now , thats also been downsized from the original plans. its a huge mistake by the board to not look at all better options aval when they was screwing around with car giant ,
big question is now is are they happy to keep pumping cash into the club long term ? [Post edited 28 Oct 2021 10:03]
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It appears they are in it for the long-term given what they have stumped up so far. Now that the training ground is done you would imagine their long-term focus will be on the relocation. | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 10:47 - Oct 28 with 3151 views | BklynRanger |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 10:33 - Oct 28 by PunteR |
I doubt the owners want to spend millions on doing that with little return ?
I personally think its doable but is there anything in it for the owners. ? |
I think a far lesser version of what Bosh is describing seems to be the only real plan for the next 5-10 years though. If we could get promoted they'd be looking to bring it up to whatever spec the PL needs these days, and then make whatever other improvements they could for now with the cash injection from the promised land. Which would be fair enough by me tbh.
Getting the training ground going seems to have cooled things down a bit on the push to move, along with the massive complexity of the task, current gates and a few other things. But I could be wrong, might be a canny bit of gamesmanship on the board's part. Either way I'm 49 and am 50/50 on whether I'll ever sit in a new stadium. |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 10:55 - Oct 28 with 3127 views | MedwayR |
We're rapidly running out of options. Obviously we've missed the boat with the redevelopment around Westfield & BBC sites, Kensal Gasworks may have been an option once upon a time but that's gone now.
So like CliveWilsonSaid said its David Lloyd near Acton Park, Twyford Avenue Sports Ground or more likely try for Old Oak Common again. All rather difficult to achieve. |  |
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