| Tamworth Tuesday 13:23 - Dec 15 with 22226 views | Delboy |
Unless Jim and the players are able to find a way we are in for another potential bore fest. Tamworth have no obligation to entertain and following a few early season thrashings tend to set up to frustrate, a method that has brought them some success recently and which inevitably works against our slow possesion based style. To avoid the usual depressing sonario against this type of team surely Jim sees the need to start the game hard and fast and keep going forward even if we are fortunate to score early. For once I would like to see the oppostion defenders have a torrid time instead of sitting back comfortably while we pass nonchalontly around the edge of the area. I would love to be pleasantly surprised but I suppose in all honesty I am steeled for more frustration. |  | | |  |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:31 - Dec 16 with 1409 views | kel |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:29 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
Well so I was right … totally out strengthened by all those teams stated. Had more experience and could finish off a game.i never compared to atmosphere years ago. I did say it was bad. Irrelevant of if it was worse years ago… |
“Out strengthened”
Lovely. |  | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:34 - Dec 16 with 1393 views | D_Alien |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:27 - Dec 16 by 442Dale |
Wasn’t Ramsey playing a 4–3-3?
The name came from a desire for us to return to wingers, the latter stages of the second Parkin era featuring three midfielders/forwards producing little. Hill then came in and did indeed employ a 4-4-2.
You’re right though, styles and formations evolve. For example, can recall becoming frustrated with BBM playing 4-4-2 for far too long during the relegation season. He only latterly going to three at the back which saw an upturn in results, although too late to keep us up. |
No, definitely just two forwards, i.e. Hurst and Hunt in the '66 WCF
If it'd been 433, two of the forwards would've played in wide roles, even if not the older type of winger, although the system eventually evolved into 433
In the end, it worked because we had a few world class players, plus Alan Ball whose performance in the final coined (i think) the phrase "covered every blade of grass"
Edit: the only true winger in Ramsey's squad was John Connelly of Blackburn, but he never got a sniff during the tournament [Post edited 16 Dec 20:38]
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:39 - Dec 16 with 1356 views | TVOS1907 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 19:48 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
Bromley , Eastleigh , Solihull look forward to a response. They made us look like little boys. Our lack of ruthlessness has been our downfall. Bromley in the fa cup in particular. |
So only three out of 20 league games, 2 FA Cup ties, 1 FA Trophy tie and 2 National League Cup matches. Hardly significant. You would have also said Oldham, but we took the covers off to annoy you.
Bromley "made us look like little boys", but "our lack of ruthlessness has been our downfall"?
Make your mind up; which one is it? |  |
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:41 - Dec 16 with 1333 views | realisticdale33 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:39 - Dec 16 by TVOS1907 |
So only three out of 20 league games, 2 FA Cup ties, 1 FA Trophy tie and 2 National League Cup matches. Hardly significant. You would have also said Oldham, but we took the covers off to annoy you.
Bromley "made us look like little boys", but "our lack of ruthlessness has been our downfall"?
Make your mind up; which one is it? |
Your obsession with Oldham is odd. Must admit though that the current Oldham team would absolutely embarrass us at the minute. It would be men vs boys. glad we didn’t have to play them to avoid the stick from the biffos [Post edited 16 Dec 20:42]
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:41 - Dec 16 with 1331 views | TVOS1907 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 19:55 - Dec 16 by kel |
“I can’t make many games due to work” |
Must have hopped on a boat from Hull to Southampton for Eastleigh away. | |
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:42 - Dec 16 with 1320 views | TVOS1907 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:41 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
Your obsession with Oldham is odd. Must admit though that the current Oldham team would absolutely embarrass us at the minute. It would be men vs boys. glad we didn’t have to play them to avoid the stick from the biffos [Post edited 16 Dec 20:42]
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How do you know? Have you seen them play? | |
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:43 - Dec 16 with 1319 views | 442Dale |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:34 - Dec 16 by D_Alien |
No, definitely just two forwards, i.e. Hurst and Hunt in the '66 WCF
If it'd been 433, two of the forwards would've played in wide roles, even if not the older type of winger, although the system eventually evolved into 433
In the end, it worked because we had a few world class players, plus Alan Ball whose performance in the final coined (i think) the phrase "covered every blade of grass"
Edit: the only true winger in Ramsey's squad was John Connelly of Blackburn, but he never got a sniff during the tournament [Post edited 16 Dec 20:38]
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Ah, always thought Peters played a bit further forward on with Ball on the right of the midfield, a 4-3-1-2 really. But never seen the full game so only guessing! |  |
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:44 - Dec 16 with 1310 views | realisticdale33 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:42 - Dec 16 by TVOS1907 |
How do you know? Have you seen them play? |
Heard from my Oldham fan mates. Also not hard to see as much as we all dislike them that they are likely to win the league … | | | |
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:47 - Dec 16 with 1294 views | kel |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:44 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
Heard from my Oldham fan mates. Also not hard to see as much as we all dislike them that they are likely to win the league … |
Who says we all dislike them?
Any quotes to back that up? | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:47 - Dec 16 with 1294 views | 442Dale |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:41 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
Your obsession with Oldham is odd. Must admit though that the current Oldham team would absolutely embarrass us at the minute. It would be men vs boys. glad we didn’t have to play them to avoid the stick from the biffos [Post edited 16 Dec 20:42]
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So you were wrong about the examples you gave and the failure to respond about the atmosphere point further illustrates the fact although we welcome anyone here who can add to debates, creating unnecessary diversions is unfair to all concerned.
Yes, I know responding doesn’t help but it needs saying. | |
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:50 - Dec 16 with 1276 views | realisticdale33 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:47 - Dec 16 by kel |
Who says we all dislike them?
Any quotes to back that up? |
Well I certainly don’t like Oldham so for everyone in here to accuse me of being a “BIFFO” is insulting. As I’ve said kel if you want to meet me at the next game I’m more then happy to 👍 | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:50 - Dec 16 with 1273 views | TVOS1907 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:44 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
Heard from my Oldham fan mates. Also not hard to see as much as we all dislike them that they are likely to win the league … |
Most Oldham fans were slagging off Mellon and the players up to October.
Not your 'fan mates', obviously. | |
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:52 - Dec 16 with 1251 views | kel |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:50 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
Well I certainly don’t like Oldham so for everyone in here to accuse me of being a “BIFFO” is insulting. As I’ve said kel if you want to meet me at the next game I’m more then happy to 👍 |
Thought you couldn’t make the next game due to work. You really need to make your mind up here. | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:52 - Dec 16 with 1251 views | TVOS1907 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:50 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
Well I certainly don’t like Oldham so for everyone in here to accuse me of being a “BIFFO” is insulting. As I’ve said kel if you want to meet me at the next game I’m more then happy to 👍 |
You said you can't make the next game or any of the seven before we play, surprise, surprise, Oldham. | |
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:52 - Dec 16 with 1247 views | realisticdale33 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:50 - Dec 16 by TVOS1907 |
Most Oldham fans were slagging off Mellon and the players up to October.
Not your 'fan mates', obviously. |
I can’t say I know everything about Oldham because I only see and hear what my mates tell me. The league table looks good for them and likely to be 3rd with their games In hand … not sure why they keep getting brought up in here | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:55 - Dec 16 with 1217 views | kel |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:52 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
I can’t say I know everything about Oldham because I only see and hear what my mates tell me. The league table looks good for them and likely to be 3rd with their games In hand … not sure why they keep getting brought up in here |
It’s only you that brings them up, poppet. Happy to help. | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:57 - Dec 16 with 1192 views | realisticdale33 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:52 - Dec 16 by kel |
Thought you couldn’t make the next game due to work. You really need to make your mind up here. |
I meant next game I’ll be at. Sometime in February… | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:58 - Dec 16 with 1183 views | realisticdale33 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:52 - Dec 16 by TVOS1907 |
You said you can't make the next game or any of the seven before we play, surprise, surprise, Oldham. |
Why would I care when we play Oldham … I can only make a few games this season. Next one in February | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:58 - Dec 16 with 1181 views | EllDale |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:34 - Dec 16 by D_Alien |
No, definitely just two forwards, i.e. Hurst and Hunt in the '66 WCF
If it'd been 433, two of the forwards would've played in wide roles, even if not the older type of winger, although the system eventually evolved into 433
In the end, it worked because we had a few world class players, plus Alan Ball whose performance in the final coined (i think) the phrase "covered every blade of grass"
Edit: the only true winger in Ramsey's squad was John Connelly of Blackburn, but he never got a sniff during the tournament [Post edited 16 Dec 20:38]
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Ramsey had two wingers in the squad in Ian Callaghan (before Liverpool converted him into a midfielder a few years later) and Southampton’s Terry Paine but neither got a real sniff of a regular place in the team.
I remember Brazil popularising 4-2-4 in the early 1960s and had always thought that Ramsey had used 4-3-3 in 1966 and amended this to 4-4-2 in time for the 1970 finals in Mexico.
Having said that I agree that I can’t decide who the third forward was alongside Hurst and Hunt. | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 21:01 - Dec 16 with 1140 views | kel |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:57 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
I meant next game I’ll be at. Sometime in February… |
Do you reckon they’ll have that fat bloke up front? | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 21:03 - Dec 16 with 1130 views | TVOS1907 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:57 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
I meant next game I’ll be at. Sometime in February… |
It'll be off. We'll take up the frost covers three weeks before.
But the good news is we have another home game in February (v Barnet) so you can meet kel then. It's two months away so it makes sense to get the time booked off work now. | |
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 21:07 - Dec 16 with 1104 views | realisticdale33 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 21:01 - Dec 16 by kel |
Do you reckon they’ll have that fat bloke up front? |
Don’t know what you are on about ? I’m guessing you are on about the young lad on loan from Wigan. Heard from my Oldham fan mate that’s he’s very good. Hope he isn’t there when we play them could cause us issues [Post edited 16 Dec 21:08]
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| Tamworth Tuesday on 21:10 - Dec 16 with 1089 views | realisticdale33 |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 21:03 - Dec 16 by TVOS1907 |
It'll be off. We'll take up the frost covers three weeks before.
But the good news is we have another home game in February (v Barnet) so you can meet kel then. It's two months away so it makes sense to get the time booked off work now. |
I work most Saturdays. As said I can only make midweek game near the start of February. Not sure which game yet but I’ll let kel know near the time to get my pint ready for the pearl street | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 21:11 - Dec 16 with 1085 views | kel |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 21:07 - Dec 16 by realisticdale33 |
Don’t know what you are on about ? I’m guessing you are on about the young lad on loan from Wigan. Heard from my Oldham fan mate that’s he’s very good. Hope he isn’t there when we play them could cause us issues [Post edited 16 Dec 21:08]
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You don’t know who I’m on about but you know they have a lad on loan from Wigan?
What fantastic logic. | | | |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 21:12 - Dec 16 with 1083 views | D_Alien |
| Tamworth Tuesday on 20:58 - Dec 16 by EllDale |
Ramsey had two wingers in the squad in Ian Callaghan (before Liverpool converted him into a midfielder a few years later) and Southampton’s Terry Paine but neither got a real sniff of a regular place in the team.
I remember Brazil popularising 4-2-4 in the early 1960s and had always thought that Ramsey had used 4-3-3 in 1966 and amended this to 4-4-2 in time for the 1970 finals in Mexico.
Having said that I agree that I can’t decide who the third forward was alongside Hurst and Hunt. |
Connelly was definitely a winger, but i was wrong about getting a sniff, since it turns out he played in the opening game, the notorious bore-draw against Uruguay
Edit: in which case, it can't have been 442 in that first game...
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