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Tata and the new UK steel strategy 12:56 - Sep 11 with 3283 viewsAnotherJohn

The statement just made today in Parliament is the first encouraging development I have seen under the new government. The big plus is that, in addition to an improved redundancy package, there will be an intention to bring back some UK primary steel production to complement the planned electric arc furnaces at Port Talbot and Scunthorpe. I suppose the downside is that the Tata deal does not postpone the closure of the existing blast furnaces, does not reduce the number of lost jobs significantly, and does not push Tata to add a DRI front end to the EAF in the short term. It was a bit rich for the Shadow Business Minister to criticise Labour for this when so little progress had been made by the last government. I will wait with interest to see what those with greater knowledge than me of the plant think.
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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 11:21 - Oct 29 with 407 viewsReslovenSwan1

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 21:22 - Oct 28 by Boundy

I think you'll find that once the grants ran out Companies left Wales also the major employers left Wales years before the Brexit vote. Company's such as Sony , Panasonic , LG Murco , Hotpoint real major employers in Wales all gone with no real replacement which could provide the jobs so much needed. Can you name any Company which you believe `can replicate the number of jobs equal to one Company we've lost?


It is not a ring endorsement on Welsh workforce is it. New mega investment now are very difficult due the the decision of the people in 2016.

The new steelmaking in PT will be massive. There seems to be developments in the glass making sector. Small factories of course but in some ways these are better.

https://www.pressglass.co.uk/new-factory-in-wales-update/

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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 11:33 - Oct 29 with 390 viewsraynor94

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 11:21 - Oct 29 by ReslovenSwan1

It is not a ring endorsement on Welsh workforce is it. New mega investment now are very difficult due the the decision of the people in 2016.

The new steelmaking in PT will be massive. There seems to be developments in the glass making sector. Small factories of course but in some ways these are better.

https://www.pressglass.co.uk/new-factory-in-wales-update/


Do you know anything about Electric Arc Furnace? It's far from massive it will be run by a minimal work force producing non virgin steel.

23 EU member states produce virgin steel,, low and behold we don't anymore, tin cans and white goods will be our output

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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 11:57 - Oct 29 with 374 viewsReslovenSwan1

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 11:33 - Oct 29 by raynor94

Do you know anything about Electric Arc Furnace? It's far from massive it will be run by a minimal work force producing non virgin steel.

23 EU member states produce virgin steel,, low and behold we don't anymore, tin cans and white goods will be our output


The investment is massive £1.25 billion. Not exactly child's play. I do not know the workforce, in the low hundreds probably but it will create construction and demolition jobs.

My sympathy for my fellow people of NPT is not great. They have to live with the world of Boris and. Farage. Good luck with that but please save me the tears.

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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 12:06 - Oct 29 with 370 viewsraynor94

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 11:57 - Oct 29 by ReslovenSwan1

The investment is massive £1.25 billion. Not exactly child's play. I do not know the workforce, in the low hundreds probably but it will create construction and demolition jobs.

My sympathy for my fellow people of NPT is not great. They have to live with the world of Boris and. Farage. Good luck with that but please save me the tears.


That last paragraph says a lot about you, oh and I was suprised the other day a fellow poster said you don't attend matches is that true?

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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 12:21 - Oct 29 with 366 viewsAnotherJohn

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 11:57 - Oct 29 by ReslovenSwan1

The investment is massive £1.25 billion. Not exactly child's play. I do not know the workforce, in the low hundreds probably but it will create construction and demolition jobs.

My sympathy for my fellow people of NPT is not great. They have to live with the world of Boris and. Farage. Good luck with that but please save me the tears.


Still not great though, as steel production from scrap puts us very much in the second division and needing to import. Tata has just built a new coke blast furnace in India (one of the largest there), and is building a directly reduced iron plant (fueled by hydrogen) to complement their EAF in the Netherlands (so maintaining virgin steel making capability there). I can't help thinking we should have played our cards better in terms of the subsidy offer, and perhaps been willing to invest a bit more to get our own hydrogen DRI furnace at Port Talbot.

Some would say we would still need to import ore, but the only reason we don't mine the deposits we have is that it is cheaper to buy abroad. In a world where that became difficult we still have the strategic asset on our own territory though.
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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 13:36 - Oct 29 with 310 viewsBoundy

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 11:21 - Oct 29 by ReslovenSwan1

It is not a ring endorsement on Welsh workforce is it. New mega investment now are very difficult due the the decision of the people in 2016.

The new steelmaking in PT will be massive. There seems to be developments in the glass making sector. Small factories of course but in some ways these are better.

https://www.pressglass.co.uk/new-factory-in-wales-update/


All those company's stated in my post and more left Wales well before the Brexit vote so I'm not sure why you're so fixated on Brexit.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 13:39 - Oct 29 with 306 viewsWhiterockin

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 13:36 - Oct 29 by Boundy

All those company's stated in my post and more left Wales well before the Brexit vote so I'm not sure why you're so fixated on Brexit.


Around the time the Senedd was established, coincidence?
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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 14:25 - Oct 29 with 267 viewspencoedjack

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 13:36 - Oct 29 by Boundy

All those company's stated in my post and more left Wales well before the Brexit vote so I'm not sure why you're so fixated on Brexit.


Both him & the forum idiot are having a bit of mare failing to answer direct questions about job creation & believing that software will give you a new hip.
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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 15:49 - Oct 29 with 232 viewsReslovenSwan1

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 12:06 - Oct 29 by raynor94

That last paragraph says a lot about you, oh and I was suprised the other day a fellow poster said you don't attend matches is that true?


I attend games at a time of my choice and occasional u21 as well. If I cannot attend I watch the 90 min reruns in YouTube. I believe in personal responsibility.

I was called a " remoanner". I am a toxic remoanner in fact. Wales's people voted to put they trading relationship with the EU at risk and have to live with the consequences. There is no free lunch.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/07/jim-ratcliffe-ineos-land-rover-
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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 22:20 - Oct 30 with 107 viewsKilkennyjack

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 14:25 - Oct 29 by pencoedjack

Both him & the forum idiot are having a bit of mare failing to answer direct questions about job creation & believing that software will give you a new hip.


You really are a strange one if you are suggesting that the (seemingly random) business of hip replacements is more significant than the entire software industry.

You might want to ‘think on’ on that one …. ❌

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Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 13:44 - Oct 31 with 43 viewsReslovenSwan1

Tata and the new UK steel strategy on 13:36 - Oct 29 by Boundy

All those company's stated in my post and more left Wales well before the Brexit vote so I'm not sure why you're so fixated on Brexit.


Ending free trade with Europe including RoI was a massive change. Boris told us jobs would be coming from south east Asia and Americas. He was wrong. The Sennedd are left carrying Boris's illegitimate baby as he on a lecture tour in the USA .

Why are all my view called obsessions and fixations. The older forum divas know the ropes fair play.
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