| Anti Welsh 19:01 - Apr 28 with 6637 views | builthjack |
Anybody on here anti Welsh? |  |
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| Anti Welsh on 17:01 - May 2 with 951 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Anti Welsh on 16:52 - May 2 by Kilkennyjack |
It strikes me that its quite hard to start a small business in an area where people have limited employment activities and therefore a lower disposable income to spend with small businesses.
Entrepreneur of course is not an English word.
Welsh Coal was worth trillions.
It would be like ..... well, taking oil from the Arab nations and then telling them they were poor, lazy, and lacked an entrepreneurial spirit.
See ...its bollox innit...? |
No point talking about Welsh coal. It was a finite resource and always was. A business with a limited shelf life. Now all gone commercially.
Uk / Wales is a good place to do business. There is nothing particularly disadvantaged about the valleys these days. |  |
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| Anti Welsh on 17:16 - May 2 with 933 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Anti Welsh on 17:01 - May 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No point talking about Welsh coal. It was a finite resource and always was. A business with a limited shelf life. Now all gone commercially.
Uk / Wales is a good place to do business. There is nothing particularly disadvantaged about the valleys these days. |
Yes there is.
Oil is a finite resource and always was.
The Arab nations are very wealthy as a direct result.
Where is the wealth from Welsh coal ?
Why was it not invested for future generations ?
Its almost like somebody took all the wealth and then did not give a toss, isn’t it ?
Create the conditions for business then you have a chance.
Btw - the UK govt even took £150,000 of the money given to the aberfan families and used it to clear the coal tips. Tony Blair returned the money in 1997. What would Johnson have done ? |  |
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| Anti Welsh on 17:22 - May 2 with 938 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Anti Welsh on 16:52 - May 2 by Kilkennyjack |
It strikes me that its quite hard to start a small business in an area where people have limited employment activities and therefore a lower disposable income to spend with small businesses.
Entrepreneur of course is not an English word.
Welsh Coal was worth trillions.
It would be like ..... well, taking oil from the Arab nations and then telling them they were poor, lazy, and lacked an entrepreneurial spirit.
See ...its bollox innit...? |
"Welsh Coal was worth trillions"
Do you have a source for that? |  |
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| Anti Welsh on 17:24 - May 2 with 936 views | onehunglow |
| Anti Welsh on 17:22 - May 2 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
"Welsh Coal was worth trillions"
Do you have a source for that? |
No man should ideally have to crawl along the ground in filth to earn a living.
Women and young kids all involved not that long ago. |  |
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| Anti Welsh on 17:29 - May 2 with 929 views | Boundy |
| Anti Welsh on 17:24 - May 2 by onehunglow |
No man should ideally have to crawl along the ground in filth to earn a living.
Women and young kids all involved not that long ago. |
Strange that , harkening for a by gone age and thank f*** its gone.Although I can't imagine a pasty faced school kid would be up to getting its hands dirty especially down a pit . | |
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| Anti Welsh on 17:36 - May 2 with 928 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Anti Welsh on 17:24 - May 2 by onehunglow |
No man should ideally have to crawl along the ground in filth to earn a living.
Women and young kids all involved not that long ago. |
At the peak, Welsh mines produced 57 million tons of coal per year (that was 1913). By the end of 1946 that was down to 750,000 tons and continued declining.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/history/sites/themes/society/industry_coal03.shtml
Price of coal in the year 1912, per ton, was £2 (£234 in today's money). And that figure of £2 per ton was abnormally high, as the report below acknowledges prices had increased over 100% in one year.
https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1912/mar/20/price-of-coal
That puts the value of Welsh coal, at its peak, at about £13.3 billion per year in today's money. Again, that was the peak and the peak was very short lived. Of course, those figures don't account for the colossal cost of extracting and transporting the coal.
It wasn't worth trillions. [Post edited 2 May 2021 17:37]
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| Anti Welsh on 17:55 - May 2 with 915 views | onehunglow |
| Anti Welsh on 17:29 - May 2 by Boundy |
Strange that , harkening for a by gone age and thank f*** its gone.Although I can't imagine a pasty faced school kid would be up to getting its hands dirty especially down a pit . |
Very young kids ,their mothers and fathers all involved in protecting what they dug out.
And Scargill wanted our boys and girls to carry on mining .
It was an abomination .
The camaraderie in mining villages was borne out of unity and a common evil albeit one that gave them a living ,just. | |
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| Anti Welsh on 18:05 - May 2 with 911 views | raynor94 |
| Anti Welsh on 17:16 - May 2 by Kilkennyjack |
Yes there is.
Oil is a finite resource and always was.
The Arab nations are very wealthy as a direct result.
Where is the wealth from Welsh coal ?
Why was it not invested for future generations ?
Its almost like somebody took all the wealth and then did not give a toss, isn’t it ?
Create the conditions for business then you have a chance.
Btw - the UK govt even took £150,000 of the money given to the aberfan families and used it to clear the coal tips. Tony Blair returned the money in 1997. What would Johnson have done ? |
Welsh pits were unviable, it was costing far more mining it than they could sell it for. |  |
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| Anti Welsh on 18:29 - May 2 with 899 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Anti Welsh on 17:16 - May 2 by Kilkennyjack |
Yes there is.
Oil is a finite resource and always was.
The Arab nations are very wealthy as a direct result.
Where is the wealth from Welsh coal ?
Why was it not invested for future generations ?
Its almost like somebody took all the wealth and then did not give a toss, isn’t it ?
Create the conditions for business then you have a chance.
Btw - the UK govt even took £150,000 of the money given to the aberfan families and used it to clear the coal tips. Tony Blair returned the money in 1997. What would Johnson have done ? |
Welsh coal was not owned by Welsh people. Welsh people have voted for the status quo. This is the status quo.
"In the United Kingdom, the ownership of oil, gas, gold and silver is held by the Crown Estate. Exploitation of these resources is overseen and run by the Crown Estate. The ownership and licensing of unworked coal and coal mines in the United Kingdom is managed by the Coal Authority."
It is a legitmate argument that too little of the wealth was left in local hands but that is what happened. There is little point of focussing on this. All working people suffered in bygones years.
There is a clear case for a mansion tax on property speculation in the taxpayer supported London property bubble. This was a policy of the labour party under milliband but rejected by the public. | |
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| Anti Welsh on 18:31 - May 2 with 899 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Anti Welsh on 18:05 - May 2 by raynor94 |
Welsh pits were unviable, it was costing far more mining it than they could sell it for. |
When trying to find a source for that figure, quite literally the only mention I could find of Wales' coal that was mined in the past being worth "trillions" was this:
It's becoming increasingly clear that simpleminded Welsh people are being tricked into believing nonsense which is largely stemming from Twitter accounts like that. It's quite frightening really. No sources, no evidence, not even a minor attempt to justify their claims - just lie after lie after lie, each carefully constructed to achieve maximum outrage. | |
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| Anti Welsh on 18:37 - May 2 with 892 views | onehunglow |
| Anti Welsh on 18:29 - May 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Welsh coal was not owned by Welsh people. Welsh people have voted for the status quo. This is the status quo.
"In the United Kingdom, the ownership of oil, gas, gold and silver is held by the Crown Estate. Exploitation of these resources is overseen and run by the Crown Estate. The ownership and licensing of unworked coal and coal mines in the United Kingdom is managed by the Coal Authority."
It is a legitmate argument that too little of the wealth was left in local hands but that is what happened. There is little point of focussing on this. All working people suffered in bygones years.
There is a clear case for a mansion tax on property speculation in the taxpayer supported London property bubble. This was a policy of the labour party under milliband but rejected by the public. |
and neither was english coal owned by English people | |
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| Anti Welsh on 18:40 - May 2 with 890 views | builthjack |
Lots of coppers earned a fortune during the miners strike. It set them up for life.
Some used their truncheons a lot. Bstads. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Anti Welsh on 18:56 - May 2 with 876 views | Boundy |
| Anti Welsh on 18:05 - May 2 by raynor94 |
Welsh pits were unviable, it was costing far more mining it than they could sell it for. |
Hard to believe It worked out cheaper to import coal from Australia than to mine it at Lady Windsor but it was due to bulk carriers and surface mining , along with the loss of steel production and the CEGBs need for coal for its power stations which were slowly turning to gas fired meant coal was always going to fade away . | |
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| Anti Welsh on 19:07 - May 2 with 870 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Anti Welsh on 18:37 - May 2 by onehunglow |
and neither was english coal owned by English people |
Stands to reason. Some enormous wealth did end up in a small minortiy English hands via preferential sales of rights.
Even today some dim Welsh people involved with the club have had an internal disagreement and appear to have agreed to give English ambulance chasers 40% of everything they owned in 2016. Smart people make money dim people give it away. | |
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| Anti Welsh on 21:27 - May 2 with 838 views | Nortbankboy |
| Anti Welsh on 19:07 - May 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Stands to reason. Some enormous wealth did end up in a small minortiy English hands via preferential sales of rights.
Even today some dim Welsh people involved with the club have had an internal disagreement and appear to have agreed to give English ambulance chasers 40% of everything they owned in 2016. Smart people make money dim people give it away. |
I just think that people who move away to England are the worst.
They get anglicized and think they have bettered themselves.
But really they have just forgotten their routes.
Fair play to him Jones he didnt | | | |
| Anti Welsh on 22:04 - May 2 with 819 views | Marcella |
| Anti Welsh on 17:24 - May 2 by onehunglow |
No man should ideally have to crawl along the ground in filth to earn a living.
Women and young kids all involved not that long ago. |
No man should admit to going around smashing said men around the head with truncheons for fun for trying to put food on the table...
Glasshouses and stones 🤔 |  | | |
| Anti Welsh on 22:13 - May 2 with 806 views | raynor94 |
| Anti Welsh on 21:27 - May 2 by Nortbankboy |
I just think that people who move away to England are the worst.
They get anglicized and think they have bettered themselves.
But really they have just forgotten their routes.
Fair play to him Jones he didnt |
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| Anti Welsh on 01:37 - May 3 with 768 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Anti Welsh on 18:29 - May 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Welsh coal was not owned by Welsh people. Welsh people have voted for the status quo. This is the status quo.
"In the United Kingdom, the ownership of oil, gas, gold and silver is held by the Crown Estate. Exploitation of these resources is overseen and run by the Crown Estate. The ownership and licensing of unworked coal and coal mines in the United Kingdom is managed by the Coal Authority."
It is a legitmate argument that too little of the wealth was left in local hands but that is what happened. There is little point of focussing on this. All working people suffered in bygones years.
There is a clear case for a mansion tax on property speculation in the taxpayer supported London property bubble. This was a policy of the labour party under milliband but rejected by the public. |
Welsh people never agreed to join any United Kingdom.
Welsh coal belongs to the people of Wales, just as much as the oil wealth belongs to the arab nations.
Whatever the figure it was enormous wealth and to see so little of that wealth invested in Wales for future generations is state sponsored robbery.
To see welsh people argue against this, is real George Thomas inspired inferiority. Stand up. | |
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| Anti Welsh on 01:38 - May 3 with 767 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Anti Welsh on 22:13 - May 2 by raynor94 |
Give them sat navs |
Quite funny | |
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| Anti Welsh on 08:14 - May 3 with 750 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Anti Welsh on 01:37 - May 3 by Kilkennyjack |
Welsh people never agreed to join any United Kingdom.
Welsh coal belongs to the people of Wales, just as much as the oil wealth belongs to the arab nations.
Whatever the figure it was enormous wealth and to see so little of that wealth invested in Wales for future generations is state sponsored robbery.
To see welsh people argue against this, is real George Thomas inspired inferiority. Stand up. |
Unfortunately the oil wealth does not belong to the Arab nations and it's people it is owned and exploited by a few very very rich people. | |
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| Anti Welsh on 10:37 - May 3 with 732 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Anti Welsh on 08:14 - May 3 by felixstowe_jack |
Unfortunately the oil wealth does not belong to the Arab nations and it's people it is owned and exploited by a few very very rich people. |
Well Dubai looks a bit different to the Rhondda, so that makes the point. | |
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| Anti Welsh on 10:49 - May 3 with 728 views | Gwyn737 |
You can be pro Welsh without being pro independance. | | | |
| Anti Welsh on 11:02 - May 3 with 721 views | raynor94 |
| Anti Welsh on 10:49 - May 3 by Gwyn737 |
You can be pro Welsh without being pro independance. |
Which the vast majority of the Country are | |
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| Anti Welsh on 14:29 - May 3 with 681 views | Gwyn737 |
| Anti Welsh on 21:27 - May 2 by Nortbankboy |
I just think that people who move away to England are the worst.
They get anglicized and think they have bettered themselves.
But really they have just forgotten their routes.
Fair play to him Jones he didnt |
I wouldn’t say I’ve become less Welsh. Less anti English though. | | | |
| Anti Welsh on 22:56 - May 3 with 621 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Anti Welsh on 10:49 - May 3 by Gwyn737 |
You can be pro Welsh without being pro independance. |
Interesting.
Interesting that you chose not to say ‘pro union’.
Would you say you can be pro Welsh and pro unionist..?
Its the current post war ‘Royals and BBC’ model if you like.
How do you feel about a Conservative and Unionist government in London seeking to pass legislation that the union flag will fly above the dragon flag on every government building in Wales. You ok with that ? | |
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