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World heavyweight boxing 18:33 - Feb 25 with 4070 viewsJackfath

Why are there so many different belts? Who was the last person to hold them all? Which one is the most prestigious?

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World heavyweight boxing on 18:39 - Feb 25 with 4058 viewsHighjack

Think Lennox Lewis was the last one.

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World heavyweight boxing on 18:45 - Feb 25 with 4049 viewsGaryjack

World heavyweight boxing on 18:39 - Feb 25 by Highjack

Think Lennox Lewis was the last one.


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World heavyweight boxing on 18:50 - Feb 25 with 4040 viewsJackfath

So if Lennox was undisputed, how did the belts then get split back up? How come whoever didn't beat him win them all and so on?

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World heavyweight boxing on 18:52 - Feb 25 with 4036 viewsHighjack

World heavyweight boxing on 18:50 - Feb 25 by Jackfath

So if Lennox was undisputed, how did the belts then get split back up? How come whoever didn't beat him win them all and so on?


Politics and money, they tend to be stripped of the belts quite a lot if they don’t fight the right people etc.

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World heavyweight boxing on 19:22 - Feb 25 with 3987 viewsGaryjack

World heavyweight boxing on 18:52 - Feb 25 by Highjack

Politics and money, they tend to be stripped of the belts quite a lot if they don’t fight the right people etc.


Or in Lennox's case, he retired undisputed so all the belts became vacant with different bodies having their own No1 challenger.
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World heavyweight boxing on 20:13 - Feb 25 with 3918 viewsblackpooljack

World heavyweight boxing on 18:45 - Feb 25 by Garyjack

Correct


Not correct Lewis was never WBO Champion. Nobody has ever held all four.
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World heavyweight boxing on 20:25 - Feb 25 with 3899 viewsGaryjack

World heavyweight boxing on 20:13 - Feb 25 by blackpooljack

Not correct Lewis was never WBO Champion. Nobody has ever held all four.
[Post edited 25 Feb 2020 20:19]


Incorrect. The WBO belt wasn't recognised officially when Lennox was Champion..
[Post edited 25 Feb 2020 20:28]
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World heavyweight boxing on 20:40 - Feb 25 with 3861 viewsblackpooljack

World heavyweight boxing on 20:25 - Feb 25 by Garyjack

Incorrect. The WBO belt wasn't recognised officially when Lennox was Champion..
[Post edited 25 Feb 2020 20:28]


It was certainly recognised by the WBO. You could just as easily argue that anyone who held the title before the WBC or IBF were founded held all the belts there being only the one.
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World heavyweight boxing on 20:41 - Feb 25 with 3858 viewsCooperman

Good OP. I have often wondered the same.

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World heavyweight boxing on 20:53 - Feb 25 with 3836 viewsGaryjack

World heavyweight boxing on 20:40 - Feb 25 by blackpooljack

It was certainly recognised by the WBO. You could just as easily argue that anyone who held the title before the WBC or IBF were founded held all the belts there being only the one.


Don't be silly. The fact that the WBO recognised their own title is plain stupid. The WBA, WBC and IBF titles were the only recognised bodies at that time. Lennox Lewis was the last undisputed heavyweight Champion.
The WBO wasn't recognised until 2007.
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World heavyweight boxing on 21:31 - Feb 25 with 3784 viewsHighjack

World heavyweight boxing on 20:53 - Feb 25 by Garyjack

Don't be silly. The fact that the WBO recognised their own title is plain stupid. The WBA, WBC and IBF titles were the only recognised bodies at that time. Lennox Lewis was the last undisputed heavyweight Champion.
The WBO wasn't recognised until 2007.
[Post edited 25 Feb 2020 20:54]


And the Ring title.

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World heavyweight boxing on 21:40 - Feb 25 with 3768 viewsGaryjack

World heavyweight boxing on 21:31 - Feb 25 by Highjack

And the Ring title.


Jack Dempsey, the very first Heavyweight Champion held a Ring belt. They continued giving a belt until around 1997, then started again in 2001. Not actually sure if it's ever been recognised as an official title though.
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World heavyweight boxing on 22:23 - Feb 25 with 3726 viewsHighjack

World heavyweight boxing on 21:40 - Feb 25 by Garyjack

Jack Dempsey, the very first Heavyweight Champion held a Ring belt. They continued giving a belt until around 1997, then started again in 2001. Not actually sure if it's ever been recognised as an official title though.


It’s arguably the title they value most.

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World heavyweight boxing on 22:45 - Feb 25 with 3700 viewsGaryjack

World heavyweight boxing on 22:23 - Feb 25 by Highjack

It’s arguably the title they value most.


I wouldn't dispute that from a personal point of view some would. Ring has a fantastic reputation.
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World heavyweight boxing on 23:40 - Feb 25 with 3663 viewsBrynCartwright

World heavyweight boxing on 20:53 - Feb 25 by Garyjack

Don't be silly. The fact that the WBO recognised their own title is plain stupid. The WBA, WBC and IBF titles were the only recognised bodies at that time. Lennox Lewis was the last undisputed heavyweight Champion.
The WBO wasn't recognised until 2007.
[Post edited 25 Feb 2020 20:54]


Wouldn't it be great if the WBA, WBA, IBF and the WBO all got together in somewhere like Butlins at Minehead, and all fought each other in an Anchorman style battle to the death to find which completely spurious dollar making shitshow was the ultimate pugilistic organisation.

It would certainly cancel out a lot of confusion.

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World heavyweight boxing on 23:41 - Feb 25 with 3659 viewstheloneranger

World heavyweight boxing on 22:23 - Feb 25 by Highjack

It’s arguably the title they value most.


Don't forget "The Lineal World Heavyweight Champion."

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World heavyweight boxing on 08:14 - Feb 26 with 3556 viewsHighjack

World heavyweight boxing on 23:40 - Feb 25 by BrynCartwright

Wouldn't it be great if the WBA, WBA, IBF and the WBO all got together in somewhere like Butlins at Minehead, and all fought each other in an Anchorman style battle to the death to find which completely spurious dollar making shitshow was the ultimate pugilistic organisation.

It would certainly cancel out a lot of confusion.


It might cause more confusion for the doddery old elderly ladies who were expecting to see Cannon and Ball.

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World heavyweight boxing on 11:39 - Feb 27 with 3453 viewsTrundle10

World heavyweight boxing on 20:25 - Feb 25 by Garyjack

Incorrect. The WBO belt wasn't recognised officially when Lennox was Champion..
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So Joe Calzaghe wasn't a world champion either then as he won WBO off Eubank in 1997.... what an absolute load of b0ll0cks
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World heavyweight boxing on 11:45 - Feb 27 with 3446 viewsHighjack

World heavyweight boxing on 11:39 - Feb 27 by Trundle10

So Joe Calzaghe wasn't a world champion either then as he won WBO off Eubank in 1997.... what an absolute load of b0ll0cks


Calzaghe won all the belts but didn’t hold them all at the same time. One of them got stripped, can’t remember which one because he fought that guy from that reality TV show.

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World heavyweight boxing on 11:39 - Feb 27 by Trundle10

So Joe Calzaghe wasn't a world champion either then as he won WBO off Eubank in 1997.... what an absolute load of b0ll0cks


Thing is Calzaghe beat and fought the best so we can have a pretty good idea that he was a genuine world champ, now its a different matter for all these so called British world champions and former ones for eg Billy Joe Saunders, Liam Smith, and so many more, now these guys are what we call joking world champs, they win one of the the title`s against another joking champion then avoid fighting the best out there, once they do they normally lose, that why I respect the UFC so much as the best just have to fight the best end of.
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World heavyweight boxing on 18:38 - Feb 27 with 3349 viewsPozuelosSideys

Fury/Joshua would become the first HW to hold all 4 belts at the same time. LL was the first to hold three. 4 is harder effectively due to politics and the different associations having their own agendas and generally being a pack of cnts.

Should Fury win and hold all 4 then retire, the belts would all be thrown into the air and the whole mess would start all over again. This is the main reason why the best dont fight the best a lot of the time these days. When you only have one belt to fight for, everyone has to work their way up the rankings to get to the same single top spot, not one of 4.

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World heavyweight boxing on 22:45 - Feb 27 with 3264 viewsGlastonbury

World heavyweight boxing on 11:45 - Feb 27 by Highjack

Calzaghe won all the belts but didn’t hold them all at the same time. One of them got stripped, can’t remember which one because he fought that guy from that reality TV show.


Peter manfredo ?
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World heavyweight boxing on 18:43 - Feb 28 with 3159 viewsperplex

World heavyweight boxing on 22:45 - Feb 27 by Glastonbury

Peter manfredo ?


He actually fought a few even worse as well, but to nip your reply in the bud Calzaghe fought and beat 11 world champions.
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World heavyweight boxing on 19:16 - Feb 28 with 3138 viewsGaryjack

World heavyweight boxing on 11:39 - Feb 27 by Trundle10

So Joe Calzaghe wasn't a world champion either then as he won WBO off Eubank in 1997.... what an absolute load of b0ll0cks


Try doing a bit of research instead of mouthing off about something you obviously know nothing about. This may help.............. www.google.co.uk
No need to thank me.

Oh, and he didn't win it off Eubank, as Eubank wasn't the Champion. It was a vacant title as the holder Steve Collins retired. There endeth the lesson.
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