| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? 18:43 - Dec 15 with 5688 views | swanseajack4eva |
For the past 5 years it has been held in November or December. Does anyone know the date when the 2017 AGM going to be held?
AGM for 2016 - December 2016
AGM for 2015 - November 2015
AGM for 2014 - November 2014
AGM for 2013 - November 2013
AGM for 2012 - November 2012
https://www.swanstrust.co.uk/trust-board-and-agm-minutes/#AGM
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:00 - Dec 15 with 5664 views | Uxbridge |
Won't be confirmed for a couple of weeks. Books need auditing beforehand. I'd expect a Monday in early Jan though. |  |
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:17 - Dec 15 with 5635 views | NeathJack |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:00 - Dec 15 by Uxbridge |
Won't be confirmed for a couple of weeks. Books need auditing beforehand. I'd expect a Monday in early Jan though. |
As a board (appreciate you can't speak for the whole board) will you commit to not completing this farcical deal until after the AGM? |  | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:19 - Dec 15 with 5629 views | E20Jack |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:17 - Dec 15 by NeathJack |
As a board (appreciate you can't speak for the whole board) will you commit to not completing this farcical deal until after the AGM? |
Of course not. Things need hiding. This is being fasttracked. |  |
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:36 - Dec 15 with 5606 views | dobjack2 |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:00 - Dec 15 by Uxbridge |
Won't be confirmed for a couple of weeks. Books need auditing beforehand. I'd expect a Monday in early Jan though. |
Hi Ux not having a pop at you but When did the financial year end?
Rule 31 says that the AGM should take place within 6 months of the end of the financial year.
If more than 6 months has elapsed then the trust is clearly not acting in accordance with its own rules. In which case, in accordance with rule 61 the half of the board members that have served the longest should already have resigned and there should already have been an election.
If the above is correct then it would appear that the longest serving half of the trust board have no authority to be there. In addition the position of the secretary is surely untenable as he has failed in ensuring rule 29g is followed. |  | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:40 - Dec 15 with 5593 views | monmouth |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:36 - Dec 15 by dobjack2 |
Hi Ux not having a pop at you but When did the financial year end?
Rule 31 says that the AGM should take place within 6 months of the end of the financial year.
If more than 6 months has elapsed then the trust is clearly not acting in accordance with its own rules. In which case, in accordance with rule 61 the half of the board members that have served the longest should already have resigned and there should already have been an election.
If the above is correct then it would appear that the longest serving half of the trust board have no authority to be there. In addition the position of the secretary is surely untenable as he has failed in ensuring rule 29g is followed. |
It's 31 July, but a gold star attempt. |  |
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:44 - Dec 15 with 5587 views | dobjack2 |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:40 - Dec 15 by monmouth |
It's 31 July, but a gold star attempt. |
Curses - foiled again
Still it’s the half of the board that has been there longest that should be up for re election in accordance with rule 61 [Post edited 15 Dec 2017 19:54]
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 20:14 - Dec 15 with 5549 views | Uxbridge |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:17 - Dec 15 by NeathJack |
As a board (appreciate you can't speak for the whole board) will you commit to not completing this farcical deal until after the AGM? |
You've answered your own question there. It's hardly imminent though, IMO. | |
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 20:52 - Dec 15 with 5498 views | NeathJack |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 20:14 - Dec 15 by Uxbridge |
You've answered your own question there. It's hardly imminent though, IMO. |
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 21:57 - Dec 15 with 5454 views | Nookiejack |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:36 - Dec 15 by dobjack2 |
Hi Ux not having a pop at you but When did the financial year end?
Rule 31 says that the AGM should take place within 6 months of the end of the financial year.
If more than 6 months has elapsed then the trust is clearly not acting in accordance with its own rules. In which case, in accordance with rule 61 the half of the board members that have served the longest should already have resigned and there should already have been an election.
If the above is correct then it would appear that the longest serving half of the trust board have no authority to be there. In addition the position of the secretary is surely untenable as he has failed in ensuring rule 29g is followed. |
it looks like the last accounts were for the period ended 31st July 2016 - so the next will be 31st July 2017 - which implies they have to hold an AGM by 31st Jan 2018 (as per Rule 31).
https://www.swanstrust.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Swans-Trust-Accounts-201 | | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 22:50 - Dec 15 with 5424 views | dobjack2 |
Yep - different route required | | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 23:55 - Dec 15 with 5388 views | whiterock |
Why don’t the Trust thave a forum in Aberdare? I’d turn up, Need a venue tho | | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 00:09 - Dec 16 with 5376 views | whiterock |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 23:55 - Dec 15 by whiterock |
Why don’t the Trust thave a forum in Aberdare? I’d turn up, Need a venue tho |
Not a bad shout, any bottle? | | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 00:12 - Dec 16 with 5373 views | swanseajack4eva |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 19:00 - Dec 15 by Uxbridge |
Won't be confirmed for a couple of weeks. Books need auditing beforehand. I'd expect a Monday in early Jan though. |
Ux - sorry, this is a non-answer.
Auditing the Trust financials is a simple task and with a few business days left before January it is hard to imagine that an auditor who has had months to conduct the work is not sure when their report will be complete.
Normal boards communicate the date of the AGM a long time in advance in order for members to be able to attend, and auditors are contracted to complete their report well in advance.
This looks like an effort to announce an AGM with a couple of days notice to prevent organised participation by many members who want to attend. Just like the "out of the blue" forum held this week.
Please can you provide a proper answer to the question. If you don't know that is OK too, and in that case please can you advise who is in control of the Trust board and able to provide an answer.
Thank you. | | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 00:15 - Dec 16 with 5371 views | whiterock |
Forum in aberdare | | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 06:05 - Dec 16 with 5342 views | builthjack |
I always understood that AGM,s had to have 14 clear days notice. So if a AGM is called on the 1st of a month, you then have 14 clear days, then the AGM would be on the 16th.
Am sure that those are the rules. |  |
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 08:20 - Dec 16 with 5288 views | Outsider |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 06:05 - Dec 16 by builthjack |
I always understood that AGM,s had to have 14 clear days notice. So if a AGM is called on the 1st of a month, you then have 14 clear days, then the AGM would be on the 16th.
Am sure that those are the rules. |
You are right builth.
Article 34 states that notice of AGMs must be given "at least 14 clear days before the date of the meeting". It goes on to state that the notice must "indicate the business to be dealt with at the meeting", i.e. communicate the agenda. | | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 08:22 - Dec 16 with 5285 views | Uxbridge |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 00:12 - Dec 16 by swanseajack4eva |
Ux - sorry, this is a non-answer.
Auditing the Trust financials is a simple task and with a few business days left before January it is hard to imagine that an auditor who has had months to conduct the work is not sure when their report will be complete.
Normal boards communicate the date of the AGM a long time in advance in order for members to be able to attend, and auditors are contracted to complete their report well in advance.
This looks like an effort to announce an AGM with a couple of days notice to prevent organised participation by many members who want to attend. Just like the "out of the blue" forum held this week.
Please can you provide a proper answer to the question. If you don't know that is OK too, and in that case please can you advise who is in control of the Trust board and able to provide an answer.
Thank you. |
Just because you don't like the answer doesn't make it a non answer. Such is PS though.
The AGM is about many things. The accounts need to be presented, various things to be confirmed, most relevantly the proposal for the new model rules and any other actions.
Notice would need to be given, it certainly wouldn't be 48 hours, but dates can't be fixed until other things are finalised. I've told you the most likely dates, I can't spoon feed more than that.
The timetable is pretty clear for anyone who wants to make something happen. Nobody should complain they didn't know the timings. | |
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 08:23 - Dec 16 with 5282 views | Uxbridge |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 20:52 - Dec 15 by NeathJack |
Did I? |
Yup. I can't speak for the board, and you said I couldn't.
There is nothing to sign, yet. Some way from that. | |
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 09:04 - Dec 16 with 5265 views | Phil_S |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 08:22 - Dec 16 by Uxbridge |
Just because you don't like the answer doesn't make it a non answer. Such is PS though.
The AGM is about many things. The accounts need to be presented, various things to be confirmed, most relevantly the proposal for the new model rules and any other actions.
Notice would need to be given, it certainly wouldn't be 48 hours, but dates can't be fixed until other things are finalised. I've told you the most likely dates, I can't spoon feed more than that.
The timetable is pretty clear for anyone who wants to make something happen. Nobody should complain they didn't know the timings. |
From memory the Trust have to give a minimum 14 or 21 day notice for an AGM (I cannot remember which one) so notice cannot be 48 hours
Just as a reassurance for anyone who worries about it |  | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 09:16 - Dec 16 with 5256 views | swanseajack4eva |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 08:22 - Dec 16 by Uxbridge |
Just because you don't like the answer doesn't make it a non answer. Such is PS though.
The AGM is about many things. The accounts need to be presented, various things to be confirmed, most relevantly the proposal for the new model rules and any other actions.
Notice would need to be given, it certainly wouldn't be 48 hours, but dates can't be fixed until other things are finalised. I've told you the most likely dates, I can't spoon feed more than that.
The timetable is pretty clear for anyone who wants to make something happen. Nobody should complain they didn't know the timings. |
Ux - thank you, the information from Builth and Outsider gives the answer to the question, from the Trust Model Rules. I am surprised you are saying “wouldn’t be less than 48hours” when the Trust governance document spells out the notice period.
Indeed there are obviously a number of things that need to be completed before AGMs and these are worked in in the months leading up to it. Normal boards though set the AGM date transparently and long before the legal minimum advance notice. Most board members (and definitely ones with professional occupations) who have other commitments also need to know well in advance in order to plan their calendars accordingly so they can be present.
Thank you as always for responding. | | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 15:51 - Dec 18 with 5153 views | Outsider |
To Ux (and other board members),
You said above that the AGM date "won't be confirmed for a couple of weeks" and that you would "expect a Monday in early Jan".
Has the Trust secretary set a tentative date and what is it?
It is not credible that board members do not even have a tentative date in their calendars. Ordinary Trust members also need to know the date to make sure they can be physically present at the AGM. | | | |
| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 16:06 - Dec 18 with 5135 views | Shaky |
Give it a fcuking rest people.
Would you rather have some feedback or none at all?
In fact some would no doubt prefer the latter, so they can pull all their hair out or set it on fire as suits their preference.
Get a grip. [Post edited 18 Dec 2017 16:08]
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| Swans Trust - what is the date of the next AGM? on 17:41 - Dec 18 with 5085 views | exhmrc1 |
the trust rules clearly state that 14 clear days notice need to be provided. However given the trust board haven't followed the rule regarding members cannot serve for over 12 continuous years then I wouldn't be surprised to see this ignored as well. | | | |
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