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Season over for EFL on 13:32 - May 2 by RangersDave
well they wont have it when tested mate, but it depends on the quickness of the test results i suppose, and possible player quarantine arrangements (which a few cannot or will not adhere to right now) then theres all the staff they come into contact with all need to be checked and quarantined, plus the bus drivers etc etc.
Its just Russian roulette in my book.
all depends when they re start it, I can't see the point in rushing it when you have so much uncertainty but September we should be in a much better place and could resume then but powers that be seem to have put August as the cut off date.
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Season over for EFL on 08:57 - May 4 with 2205 views
If clubs can’t have paying customers before Christmas then most of the EFL will be gone.
Meh I don't really see that. All this talk about clubs going under confuses me, every club is in the same boat. Why do they all go under in this scenario? And if they do all go under, then they'll just be a massive rebirth of clubs, like AFC Wimbledon etc, that you see in non-league.
On Football Weekly they made an interesting point that football isn't as big a deal as some seem to think. Sky and BT get a few hundred thousand viewers every game, MOTD gets 3m every week, a big England WC game will get 20-30m. That's in a country of 65m. I don't really see the clamour for it to return, apart from the money men? At the end of the day, this season isn't going to be remembered for anything other than CV, even if it's finished.
As Clive has said a few times, the logistics just don't add up for BCD and it can't be justified on moral grounds. Just call the season null and void and tell all clubs to get over it, it's just one of those unforeseen events that impact stuff like sport, which TBH just really isn't that important. Start it up again when everything has died down.
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Season over for EFL on 09:37 - May 4 with 2115 views
If clubs can’t have paying customers before Christmas then most of the EFL will be gone.
Lower down maybe. In our league it all hangs on the sky money. If Sky keep paying 100% of their fee we'll squeeze through in present form, if they don't we won't.
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Season over for EFL on 09:49 - May 4 with 2092 views
Season over for EFL on 22:45 - May 1 by The_Beast1976
If it did happen then they may as well chuck the whole 'social distancing' and everything else in the bin because it will then be obvious that money comes before everything else. The Premiershit should simply have to wait, just like everything else. No reason whatsoever why it should get special treatment. If there was a case for special treatment (which there isn't) then it should be cricket seeing as it is the cricket season!!
Cricket! Not a contact support apart from the celebrating, and outdoors. So cut out the celebration, spread the crowd and away you go.
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Season over for EFL on 09:57 - May 4 with 2055 views
Lower down maybe. In our league it all hangs on the sky money. If Sky keep paying 100% of their fee we'll squeeze through in present form, if they don't we won't.
Well survive as long as ffp doesn't come into it.
We have very wealthy owners, although the Tune Group could look shakey now.
I'm just looking forward to the day when I don't have to look at the daily death numbers in this country. Sport in any shape of form is way-way down on my list of priorities. Sport will survive, thousands and thousands of people in this country haven't. Probably the wrong thread but who gives a f uck. Have a nice day.
My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.
Season over for EFL on 10:00 - May 4 by ted_hendrix
I'm just looking forward to the day when I don't have to look at the daily death numbers in this country. Sport in any shape of form is way-way down on my list of priorities. Sport will survive, thousands and thousands of people in this country haven't. Probably the wrong thread but who gives a f uck. Have a nice day.
Season over for EFL on 09:10 - May 4 by Mistication92
Meh I don't really see that. All this talk about clubs going under confuses me, every club is in the same boat. Why do they all go under in this scenario? And if they do all go under, then they'll just be a massive rebirth of clubs, like AFC Wimbledon etc, that you see in non-league.
On Football Weekly they made an interesting point that football isn't as big a deal as some seem to think. Sky and BT get a few hundred thousand viewers every game, MOTD gets 3m every week, a big England WC game will get 20-30m. That's in a country of 65m. I don't really see the clamour for it to return, apart from the money men? At the end of the day, this season isn't going to be remembered for anything other than CV, even if it's finished.
As Clive has said a few times, the logistics just don't add up for BCD and it can't be justified on moral grounds. Just call the season null and void and tell all clubs to get over it, it's just one of those unforeseen events that impact stuff like sport, which TBH just really isn't that important. Start it up again when everything has died down.
If they call this season null and void then they have to do the same to next season as well which is why they want to avoid that
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Season over for EFL on 12:09 - May 4 with 1823 views
Season over for EFL on 09:10 - May 4 by Mistication92
Meh I don't really see that. All this talk about clubs going under confuses me, every club is in the same boat. Why do they all go under in this scenario? And if they do all go under, then they'll just be a massive rebirth of clubs, like AFC Wimbledon etc, that you see in non-league.
On Football Weekly they made an interesting point that football isn't as big a deal as some seem to think. Sky and BT get a few hundred thousand viewers every game, MOTD gets 3m every week, a big England WC game will get 20-30m. That's in a country of 65m. I don't really see the clamour for it to return, apart from the money men? At the end of the day, this season isn't going to be remembered for anything other than CV, even if it's finished.
As Clive has said a few times, the logistics just don't add up for BCD and it can't be justified on moral grounds. Just call the season null and void and tell all clubs to get over it, it's just one of those unforeseen events that impact stuff like sport, which TBH just really isn't that important. Start it up again when everything has died down.
Pretty much agree with this. It looks like most sport will continue to be suspended until it is safe to restart. I hoped that September might be the date when the season could start, but that might not be possible. I don't think large gatherings of people is even likely until the science and medical specialists confirms through testing , an immunity to Covid 19, which would allow relaxation of social distancing to some degree.
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Season over for EFL on 12:11 - May 4 with 1817 views
Why do they have to do it for next season as well? The 20/21 season could be shortened, don't play the League Cup, do more Sat-Tue-Sat and get it rolling from September/October. Don't play the FA Cup if necessary.
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Season over for EFL on 12:28 - May 4 with 1789 views
Reason behind closed doors is a fcking nonsense part 356 - if Leeds or Liverpool have one win for the title, there’ll be thousands there. Wherever it is, whatever time, whatever day, even if they’re just congregating in some car park next to a training ground. They’ll wear it as a badge of honour.
It’s a ludicrous, unworkable idea. Just fascinated to see at what point we realise that.
Have to agree - might worked in the 1930s...…...
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Season over for EFL on 12:33 - May 4 with 1779 views
Season over for EFL on 13:32 - May 2 by RangersDave
well they wont have it when tested mate, but it depends on the quickness of the test results i suppose, and possible player quarantine arrangements (which a few cannot or will not adhere to right now) then theres all the staff they come into contact with all need to be checked and quarantined, plus the bus drivers etc etc.
Its just Russian roulette in my book.
Add to that the WHO have said there is no guarantee that you can't get it twice then '100%' safe football is an impossible dream as is 100% safe 'normal life' - but then that was the case pre virus - a fact we are going to have to get our heads around.
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Season over for EFL on 12:54 - May 4 with 1725 views
Cricket! Not a contact support apart from the celebrating, and outdoors. So cut out the celebration, spread the crowd and away you go.
I'm with you. Our season should have started first weekend in April. Desperately hoping we get some cricket in this season on the basis that you can actually largely avoid prolonged close contact. Got my fingers crossed for a July start
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Season over for EFL on 13:07 - May 4 with 1711 views
Season over for EFL on 12:54 - May 4 by The_Beast1976
I'm with you. Our season should have started first weekend in April. Desperately hoping we get some cricket in this season on the basis that you can actually largely avoid prolonged close contact. Got my fingers crossed for a July start
So long as no sweat or saliva is added to the ball so sandpapering it is!!
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Season over for EFL on 15:22 - May 4 with 1559 views
Having heard me on the pod over the weekend pointing out that even if each club could keep their staff down to 50 you're still requiring 1,200 people to lockdown together, play nine matches of football each and not get sick, QPR operations gets in touch to say...
For QPR a minimum would realistically be 130. This includes players/coaches/medical/security/operations/facilities/grounds, let alone any media or directors etc..
The likes of Liverpool would have an immense challenge on their hands if they won a title behind closed doors!
So 130 people x 24 teams = 3,120 people, locked down for a month, playing nine games of football, and if one of them gets sick everybody in his club, and every club they played against over the previous week, presumably has to quarantine for 14 days?
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Season over for EFL on 15:29 - May 4 with 1540 views
Having heard me on the pod over the weekend pointing out that even if each club could keep their staff down to 50 you're still requiring 1,200 people to lockdown together, play nine matches of football each and not get sick, QPR operations gets in touch to say...
For QPR a minimum would realistically be 130. This includes players/coaches/medical/security/operations/facilities/grounds, let alone any media or directors etc..
The likes of Liverpool would have an immense challenge on their hands if they won a title behind closed doors!
So 130 people x 24 teams = 3,120 people, locked down for a month, playing nine games of football, and if one of them gets sick everybody in his club, and every club they played against over the previous week, presumably has to quarantine for 14 days?
This is all on the assumption though that they do this in June, surely if they just wait till it's safer to play in say September a lot of the problems they are facing at the moment will be gone.
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Season over for EFL on 16:15 - May 4 with 1462 views
This is all on the assumption though that they do this in June, surely if they just wait till it's safer to play in say September a lot of the problems they are facing at the moment will be gone.
COVID-19 will still be around in Sept, with no vaccine in all likelihood, so the same numbers-scenario apply?
COVID-19 will still be around in Sept, with no vaccine in all likelihood, so the same numbers-scenario apply?
but if you say no football until a vaccine is found then next season has to be voided as well. At some point you have to try and get back to normality. Come September/October a lot of businesses will be back running again and we'll have a better idea of how lock down ending affected the virus.
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Season over for EFL on 17:48 - May 4 with 2683 views
Most of this applies to pretty much everything in terms of "working Life" in many ways, and this lock-down is costing 2bill a month, the reality is the likes of PL players can afford not to play for a while, many others cannot afford for this in all manner of ways - even in Office world working on a restricted footing is going to have a huge impact on people, and eventually mental health and goodness knows what.
Wheth it's going to the pub, the office, the shops (those not open) or trains and tubes ,busesw.
If you look at the football discussion as a microcosm of the problem, people are in my view in denial if they believe we can carry on with the type of situation we've had since 23rd March, then it isn't football and football clubs your going to worry about, it's going to be the whole country, and economy and everything that works for it. If you were a carer in a care home, would you keep going in to work for nothing? Would you carry on any job for nothing?
Councils running out of money, travel businesses like TFL and presumably train companies too.
Could see the return of British Rail in some way though perhaps later on???
We also need to look abroad and see what they are doing, in the Far East and Australia and NZ who are starting to decrease restrictions.
Ultimately people are starting to get restless big time now.
Good news seems to be deaths and infections are going down.
The biggest way out isnt vaccine - it's antibody tests and working out who's had it already etc and so on, but I rather suspect Big Pharma would prefer to wait for a vaccine.......
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