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I'm not politically motivated but I think that Philip Schofield has been disgraceful in the different ways that he has handled Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson recently. Talk about showing bias; could be construed as virtually bullying the former and giggled and joked whilst taking a selfie with the latter.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 08:27 - Dec 6 with 10505 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 07:32 - Dec 6 by EllDale
I'm not politically motivated but I think that Philip Schofield has been disgraceful in the different ways that he has handled Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson recently. Talk about showing bias; could be construed as virtually bullying the former and giggled and joked whilst taking a selfie with the latter.
I'm not political either but the way the press/media are biased one way or another is disgraceful. Everyone should get one vote but we know everyone is influenced in different ways depending on where they source information. For example my mother buys the Daily Mail and the day before I set of on my recent trials their main article stated directly that people shouldn't vote for Corbin. The editor or owners of such media outlets should get 1 vote like anyone else but a biased article with only one side of the argument is clearly going to influence some "don't knows" and could get thousands of votes
I actually thought that such direct recommendations would have been illegal but clearly not
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 08:31 - Dec 6 with 10588 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 07:32 - Dec 6 by EllDale
I'm not politically motivated but I think that Philip Schofield has been disgraceful in the different ways that he has handled Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson recently. Talk about showing bias; could be construed as virtually bullying the former and giggled and joked whilst taking a selfie with the latter.
Biffo bastard
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 08:31 - Dec 6 with 10586 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 08:27 - Dec 6 by Nigeriamark
I'm not political either but the way the press/media are biased one way or another is disgraceful. Everyone should get one vote but we know everyone is influenced in different ways depending on where they source information. For example my mother buys the Daily Mail and the day before I set of on my recent trials their main article stated directly that people shouldn't vote for Corbin. The editor or owners of such media outlets should get 1 vote like anyone else but a biased article with only one side of the argument is clearly going to influence some "don't knows" and could get thousands of votes
I actually thought that such direct recommendations would have been illegal but clearly not
The owners and company are not domiciled in the uk, to avoid paying UK tax.
The behaviour of the " gutter press " in this election has been more shameful than normal. The Tories get a free ride and the Labour Party are trashed on a daily basis. It's completely anti democratic. I read that with the takeover of the " i "newspaper by the " Daily Mail " two men will own 60% of British national newspapers. I'd make it a law that foreign domiciled persons should not be allowed to own British newspapers.
The BBC have been equally craven in this contest. The Tories gave them the hard word regarding future funding a while ago and since then the Beeb has shit itself.
Johnson's a coward just like a bullies are.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 08:53 - Dec 6 with 10553 views
Some would say he is a big girls blouse. Theresa May didn’t bother going in for interviews or even campaigning, preferring instead to let the conservatives mates in the media have at the Labour Party and corbyn. It blew up spectacularly in their faces and they lost their majority. Could similar happen again I wonder?
I would not trust Johnson as far as i could throw him... He is an over educated buffoon and he uses certain words that a vast majority of people couldnt comprehend the meaning that incs myself.
Also i dont like the way the media portray the election as Johnson v Corbyn v Swinton etc it should be Conservatives v Labour v Libdems afterall we are electing a governing party.....
My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:07 - Dec 6 with 10533 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 08:53 - Dec 6 by Rochdale_ger
Some would say he is a big girls blouse. Theresa May didn’t bother going in for interviews or even campaigning, preferring instead to let the conservatives mates in the media have at the Labour Party and corbyn. It blew up spectacularly in their faces and they lost their majority. Could similar happen again I wonder?
This Twitter thread is quite interesting.
Like Corbyn or not the MSM hypocrisy and contradiction when attacking him is bizarre to watch.
There is a possibility Jeremy Corbyn will be Prime Minister of the UK by the end of next week. There is no better time to highlight how, no matter what Corbyn does or whatever position he takes, his critics will attack him - even if they totally contradict themselves (thread).
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:07 - Dec 6 by Ancoats_Blue
This Twitter thread is quite interesting.
Like Corbyn or not the MSM hypocrisy and contradiction when attacking him is bizarre to watch.
There is a possibility Jeremy Corbyn will be Prime Minister of the UK by the end of next week. There is no better time to highlight how, no matter what Corbyn does or whatever position he takes, his critics will attack him - even if they totally contradict themselves (thread).
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:40 - Dec 6 by Nigeriamark
I’m fairly sure if someone did the same for BJ you would see similar
So the media bias is fairly split between the parties? Apart from the Mirror, no main stream publication is batting for Labour. The guardian is schizophrenic. So I doubt someone could produce the same for BJ
Andrew Neill is so full of self-importance it's pouring out of his ears. He is a great interviewer, no doubt, but when did he ever get to pick and choose who bows before him and submits to interviews ??
Corbyn was ill-advised to appear. He should have put Diane Abbott up instead, the next Home Secretary. That would have solved all their ills.
The media machine indicated yesterday that Boris will meet Neill for an interview nearer the election date, when it suits Boris, rather than be dictated to, as to when it suits the media.
As for Philip Schofield - well - you'd be better off with Roland Rat.
“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooledâ€
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 10:15 - Dec 6 with 10427 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:50 - Dec 6 by SuddenLad
Andrew Neill is so full of self-importance it's pouring out of his ears. He is a great interviewer, no doubt, but when did he ever get to pick and choose who bows before him and submits to interviews ??
Corbyn was ill-advised to appear. He should have put Diane Abbott up instead, the next Home Secretary. That would have solved all their ills.
The media machine indicated yesterday that Boris will meet Neill for an interview nearer the election date, when it suits Boris, rather than be dictated to, as to when it suits the media.
As for Philip Schofield - well - you'd be better off with Roland Rat.
Almost as bumptious as Boris but he doesn't get to choose - his employer, the country's national broadcaster, as part of it's public service broadcasting role, agreed to air lengthy one-on-one interviews with the Party leaders and invited them all to take part. All the leaders of the major political parties agreed to be held to account in this challenging format, even Farage. They kept their word and had the honesty and courage to take the grilling. There's no denying Johnson is a typical aristocratic, entitled, bully who funks real battles but more importantly no leader will agree in future so it's the public who, once again, won't get to hear the truth.
Andrew Neil is an obnoxious bully. He takes pleasure in abusing his position to humiliate those he interviews by ignoring 99.99% of what they stand for and relentlessly focusing on tiny controversial aspects that he knows will make the interviewee very uncomfortable. His key focus is to embarrass and ridicule politicians by not allowing them to articulate their own responses. The way he used his time at end of Farage interview to character assassinate Boris was disgraceful. Why should any politician allow themselves to be slaughtered in public by such a bully as Neil is beyond me - more fool Corbyn and others to allow themselves to be manipulated in this way.
As for the TV media in general , the pro-Liebour bias is astonishing ! , The news usually starts showing Steptoe being cheered by his rent-a-mob Momentum left wing radical socialist rag-bag army who have been strategically mobilised to make him look as if he is popular whilst then showing some uncomfortable footage of Boris, usually being hi-jacked by a Liebour activist plant. The domination of the news when Corbyn revealed the non-event of NHS trade with US was pathetic - nothing at all to show government attempts to sell off NHS , just a few preliminary wish lists from USA, no agreements at all, yet when Trump confirmed this, it did not make the first headline. BBC especially biased.
Anyone can promise the earth and it sounds great - free broadband , Steptoe says industries are not attracted to Cunbria due to lack of broadband infrastructure - try mountainous terrain , harsh winters, relentless rainfall and low population density Jeremy ! Free broadband, no tuition fees, , free childcare, free rail travel under 16, 58 billion to Waspi women who were told in 1995 of rise in pension age to equal that of men (its no wonder wonen have longer life expectancy historically as they retired at 60 on a state pension ffs - totally unfair IMHO), strange they are just rattling cages as election due , and true to form , Steptoe says he will find the 58 billion in a crude attempt to win votes. Problem is Jez, who the feck will pay for all this ? Corbyn often gives view everyone in UK is either a billionaire of homeless, reality is 99.999999% are neither and are not part of his revolutionary socialist agenda that would bankrupt the country in 6 months if the worst happened and he lied his way to power.
Tony Lloyd is another snake, I have sent him emails to which he has never replied on his failure to support to democratic vote in his constituency to leave the EU, slippery career politician with no interest in anything to political power.
Still undecided how to vote to keep him out - would vote Conservative if thought they had any chance but will probably vote Brexit as that is what the country and Rochdale voted for. People need to stand up the the Liebour bully boys who try to humiliate everyone who has a view which differs from their 1970's outdated view, we have all moved on from the cotton mills, heavy engineering and pits which all contributed to poor health and reduced life expectancy to a more modern service economy that is thriving under the Conservatives, shame some tub thumping old skool socialists on here haven't moved with the times as well.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 10:30 - Dec 6 with 10397 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:50 - Dec 6 by SuddenLad
Andrew Neill is so full of self-importance it's pouring out of his ears. He is a great interviewer, no doubt, but when did he ever get to pick and choose who bows before him and submits to interviews ??
Corbyn was ill-advised to appear. He should have put Diane Abbott up instead, the next Home Secretary. That would have solved all their ills.
The media machine indicated yesterday that Boris will meet Neill for an interview nearer the election date, when it suits Boris, rather than be dictated to, as to when it suits the media.
As for Philip Schofield - well - you'd be better off with Roland Rat.
It’s been custom for years that Neill , our toughest interviewer grills party leaders before Election Day. Johnson’s team have been asked for dates repeatedly. He knows he will be ripped apart, so is avoiding. Postal votes have been cast, so not even a chance to sway those voters now.what is a media machine?. Your pro Tory spin is woeful
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 10:28 - Dec 6 by TheBeast666
Andrew Neil is an obnoxious bully. He takes pleasure in abusing his position to humiliate those he interviews by ignoring 99.99% of what they stand for and relentlessly focusing on tiny controversial aspects that he knows will make the interviewee very uncomfortable. His key focus is to embarrass and ridicule politicians by not allowing them to articulate their own responses. The way he used his time at end of Farage interview to character assassinate Boris was disgraceful. Why should any politician allow themselves to be slaughtered in public by such a bully as Neil is beyond me - more fool Corbyn and others to allow themselves to be manipulated in this way.
As for the TV media in general , the pro-Liebour bias is astonishing ! , The news usually starts showing Steptoe being cheered by his rent-a-mob Momentum left wing radical socialist rag-bag army who have been strategically mobilised to make him look as if he is popular whilst then showing some uncomfortable footage of Boris, usually being hi-jacked by a Liebour activist plant. The domination of the news when Corbyn revealed the non-event of NHS trade with US was pathetic - nothing at all to show government attempts to sell off NHS , just a few preliminary wish lists from USA, no agreements at all, yet when Trump confirmed this, it did not make the first headline. BBC especially biased.
Anyone can promise the earth and it sounds great - free broadband , Steptoe says industries are not attracted to Cunbria due to lack of broadband infrastructure - try mountainous terrain , harsh winters, relentless rainfall and low population density Jeremy ! Free broadband, no tuition fees, , free childcare, free rail travel under 16, 58 billion to Waspi women who were told in 1995 of rise in pension age to equal that of men (its no wonder wonen have longer life expectancy historically as they retired at 60 on a state pension ffs - totally unfair IMHO), strange they are just rattling cages as election due , and true to form , Steptoe says he will find the 58 billion in a crude attempt to win votes. Problem is Jez, who the feck will pay for all this ? Corbyn often gives view everyone in UK is either a billionaire of homeless, reality is 99.999999% are neither and are not part of his revolutionary socialist agenda that would bankrupt the country in 6 months if the worst happened and he lied his way to power.
Tony Lloyd is another snake, I have sent him emails to which he has never replied on his failure to support to democratic vote in his constituency to leave the EU, slippery career politician with no interest in anything to political power.
Still undecided how to vote to keep him out - would vote Conservative if thought they had any chance but will probably vote Brexit as that is what the country and Rochdale voted for. People need to stand up the the Liebour bully boys who try to humiliate everyone who has a view which differs from their 1970's outdated view, we have all moved on from the cotton mills, heavy engineering and pits which all contributed to poor health and reduced life expectancy to a more modern service economy that is thriving under the Conservatives, shame some tub thumping old skool socialists on here haven't moved with the times as well.
pro labour bias? Really? You not seen the BBC doctoring it’s news output to flatter Boris, close cropping ‘crowds’ so as not to show only 10 party workers. Every newspaper, bar one constantly attacking labour?
The behaviour of the " gutter press " in this election has been more shameful than normal. The Tories get a free ride and the Labour Party are trashed on a daily basis. It's completely anti democratic. I read that with the takeover of the " i "newspaper by the " Daily Mail " two men will own 60% of British national newspapers. I'd make it a law that foreign domiciled persons should not be allowed to own British newspapers.
The BBC have been equally craven in this contest. The Tories gave them the hard word regarding future funding a while ago and since then the Beeb has shit itself.
Johnson's a coward just like a bullies are.
On the other hand to what extent these days is the press and TV influential on larger and larger proportions of the population ie younger people? To what extent is social media biased and uncritical in the opposite way?
Anecdotal evidence based on a sample of two but after the last election I was on a bus and overheard two students who were first time voters talking about the election. They were solely influenced by social media (press and TV were irrelevant) and voted Labour because (a) they had constant notifications from Labour-supporting activists (b) no-one else had any presence there and (c) apparently there was considerable peer pressure not to vote Tory. I am certainly way out of the loop with this age group and am not on social media, so I stand to be corrected.
However, I believe the last election showed quite a late unpredicted surge for Labour probably due in part to social media campaigns. It seems that Labour/Momentum are particularly strong at this. I imagine it is an easier sell to idealistic younger people than a Tory message. Anyway, I found these two articles in the German media on this subject, which might be of interest (tried to link to translated versions but failed):
Here is an extract from the first one (links have been removed):
'However, much of the election campaign takes place once again in the social networks. Alone Jeremy Corbyn's Facebook page posted more than 4.8 million interactions there (likes, comments or redirects) - more than all British parties (including Labour) combined . But these figures do not say anything about the widespread effect. Modern communication via the social networks is not a one-way communication from the sender to the recipient. In the Corbyn, Labour and Momentum environment, thousands of groups have formed to post on their own posts, videos and songs to campaign for Labour. The main topics here are the health and education system, as well as the resistance to the austerity policy and the call for redistribution from top to bottom. For German viewers is particularly interesting that the topic of Brexit occurs at best at the edge.
In a video, for example, the makers let young people guess how expensive certain healthcare services are in the US. The video was viewed more than four million times on Facebook alone within 20 hours. In a second video on the subject, American actor Rob Delaney explains to the British the benefits of their healthcare system . Self-made videos of old and young people, garbage workers , firefighters , doctors and nurses and self-made campaign spots are distributed through these groups and often find hundreds of thousands of viewers. There are hundreds of these videos and dozens of new ones are added every day.
But the campaigners of Labour can find hundreds of thousands to millions of viewers through these channels - homemade spots for a younger audience , campaign films for the national health system NHS or for a real peace policy and films of campaign appearances . Particularly popular are funny films about Boris Johnson or the British billionaire and Tory fan Richard Branson , which spread in no time at all.
The goal of Labour is not even to convince voters of the Tories; it's more about mobilizing your own, mostly younger, voters. In the last week - just before the deadline - nearly 700,000 new voters registered; a record. No question, Jeremy Corbyn has the momentum. The key question is whether this will be enough to catch up with the Tories.'
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 10:59 - Dec 6 with 10331 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 10:54 - Dec 6 by fermin
On the other hand to what extent these days is the press and TV influential on larger and larger proportions of the population ie younger people? To what extent is social media biased and uncritical in the opposite way?
Anecdotal evidence based on a sample of two but after the last election I was on a bus and overheard two students who were first time voters talking about the election. They were solely influenced by social media (press and TV were irrelevant) and voted Labour because (a) they had constant notifications from Labour-supporting activists (b) no-one else had any presence there and (c) apparently there was considerable peer pressure not to vote Tory. I am certainly way out of the loop with this age group and am not on social media, so I stand to be corrected.
However, I believe the last election showed quite a late unpredicted surge for Labour probably due in part to social media campaigns. It seems that Labour/Momentum are particularly strong at this. I imagine it is an easier sell to idealistic younger people than a Tory message. Anyway, I found these two articles in the German media on this subject, which might be of interest (tried to link to translated versions but failed):
Here is an extract from the first one (links have been removed):
'However, much of the election campaign takes place once again in the social networks. Alone Jeremy Corbyn's Facebook page posted more than 4.8 million interactions there (likes, comments or redirects) - more than all British parties (including Labour) combined . But these figures do not say anything about the widespread effect. Modern communication via the social networks is not a one-way communication from the sender to the recipient. In the Corbyn, Labour and Momentum environment, thousands of groups have formed to post on their own posts, videos and songs to campaign for Labour. The main topics here are the health and education system, as well as the resistance to the austerity policy and the call for redistribution from top to bottom. For German viewers is particularly interesting that the topic of Brexit occurs at best at the edge.
In a video, for example, the makers let young people guess how expensive certain healthcare services are in the US. The video was viewed more than four million times on Facebook alone within 20 hours. In a second video on the subject, American actor Rob Delaney explains to the British the benefits of their healthcare system . Self-made videos of old and young people, garbage workers , firefighters , doctors and nurses and self-made campaign spots are distributed through these groups and often find hundreds of thousands of viewers. There are hundreds of these videos and dozens of new ones are added every day.
But the campaigners of Labour can find hundreds of thousands to millions of viewers through these channels - homemade spots for a younger audience , campaign films for the national health system NHS or for a real peace policy and films of campaign appearances . Particularly popular are funny films about Boris Johnson or the British billionaire and Tory fan Richard Branson , which spread in no time at all.
The goal of Labour is not even to convince voters of the Tories; it's more about mobilizing your own, mostly younger, voters. In the last week - just before the deadline - nearly 700,000 new voters registered; a record. No question, Jeremy Corbyn has the momentum. The key question is whether this will be enough to catch up with the Tories.'
Yes but, the Tories have put a lot of fake stuff out on social media, and been told to take much of it down . Don’t forget the Russian bots, pumping out stuff for Johnson. I think the election will be closer than many have predicted, but alas I feel the Tories will get a majority, and it’s the end of the road for Swinson and Corbyn
Finally got round to watching the leaders question time from the other week last night, I still cannot believe we’re probably going to have Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. He has no real policies, would rather put down labours policies than showcase his own (which is telling in my eyes) and just relies on some shite catchphrase which he seems to have set on repeat about every 3 minutes.
Leader of the little gang of immature cretins.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 11:19 - Dec 6 with 10289 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 10:38 - Dec 6 by rochdaleriddler
pro labour bias? Really? You not seen the BBC doctoring it’s news output to flatter Boris, close cropping ‘crowds’ so as not to show only 10 party workers. Every newspaper, bar one constantly attacking labour?
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Mirror is a throwback to Arthur Scargill rhetoric, bigging up Corbyn lies in bold each day, Guardian is the Islington Socialist bubble mouthpiece, the voice of champagne socialists with radical ideas but comfortable upper middle class dinner party lifestyles. Both the same in essence, peddling old fashioned irrelevant class war nonsense.BBC is Liebour through and through, no doubt about that !
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 11:32 - Dec 6 with 10268 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 11:19 - Dec 6 by TheBeast666
Mirror is a throwback to Arthur Scargill rhetoric, bigging up Corbyn lies in bold each day, Guardian is the Islington Socialist bubble mouthpiece, the voice of champagne socialists with radical ideas but comfortable upper middle class dinner party lifestyles. Both the same in essence, peddling old fashioned irrelevant class war nonsense.BBC is Liebour through and through, no doubt about that !
The Guardian was founded just after the Peterloo massacre to promote liberal interests; in the 1980s, its opinion pages helped spawn the centre-left SDP party; it supported New Labour - so much though it can be classified as left leaning, socialist supporting it ain't!
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 11:19 - Dec 6 by TheBeast666
Mirror is a throwback to Arthur Scargill rhetoric, bigging up Corbyn lies in bold each day, Guardian is the Islington Socialist bubble mouthpiece, the voice of champagne socialists with radical ideas but comfortable upper middle class dinner party lifestyles. Both the same in essence, peddling old fashioned irrelevant class war nonsense.BBC is Liebour through and through, no doubt about that !
The guardian is definitely not socialist, and the BBC is filled with Tory appointees, are you seriously saying Kuenssberg is a socialist?. Ridiculous, Nick Robinson and Andrew Neill are both Tory
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 11:09 - Dec 6 by sweetcorn
Finally got round to watching the leaders question time from the other week last night, I still cannot believe we’re probably going to have Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. He has no real policies, would rather put down labours policies than showcase his own (which is telling in my eyes) and just relies on some shite catchphrase which he seems to have set on repeat about every 3 minutes.