| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. 10:09 - Mar 28 with 26004 views | Discodroids |
apologies i couldnt sort out the colours on this. i just thought i should put the 3 main parties first. i know ive missed respect among other s, just couldnt fit them in so no bias intended.
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 12:50 - Mar 31 with 1950 views | Jamie |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:46 - Mar 31 by ElHoop |
He's not here and he doesn't care and he doesn't like UKIP, that's the answer I think. |
As said I lived in a town saturated by Eastern Europeans and it wasn't anywhere near the apocalyptic scenario UKIP would have you believe. Perhaps we just got all the 'good' Eastern Europeans.
Or perhaps the reason I disagree with UKIP voters is that I actually experienced it, rather than reading about how dreadful they all are. |  | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 12:50 - Mar 31 with 1950 views | R_from_afar |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:58 - Mar 31 by TheBlob |
Wouldn't touch a Royce since they got taken over by Volkswagen. |
How much did you get for yours when you flogged it, Blob? 
Not sure I can cope with the concept of a Rolls Royce produced by Germans. Certain I can't cope with the cost of it either, unless I sell the house and move my furniture into it...
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 12:57 - Mar 31 with 1927 views | ElHoop |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 12:50 - Mar 31 by Jamie |
As said I lived in a town saturated by Eastern Europeans and it wasn't anywhere near the apocalyptic scenario UKIP would have you believe. Perhaps we just got all the 'good' Eastern Europeans.
Or perhaps the reason I disagree with UKIP voters is that I actually experienced it, rather than reading about how dreadful they all are. |
That's what you keep saying but I don't get it. You haven't answered the question, which was:
'Tell me Jamie, how many extra people are you going to plan for over the next ten years in terms of education, hospital services, housing and such like? Or don't you care? '
Are you saying that the ability to provide adequate services doesn't matter? How many new immigrants is enough and how many is too much? What's the point of talking about austerity and cuts when we don't know how many we are catering for in the first place? I just don't get it, it doesn't make sense. |  | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 13:05 - Mar 31 with 1914 views | DWQPR |
Forgive me for being naive but I really don't understand these pro-Europe scare stories. I for one would like to see the people of the UK decide, democratically, on an issue which is probably one of the most undemocratic institutions in the world other than FIFA and Russia. If we leave the EU why would foreign car manufacturers suddenly up sticks and leave for Eastern Europe? Surely if it is better for them to do this they would have done it already. We are not part of the single currency, so the same currency fluctuations on exporting to the EU would remain? Would the EU start to throw around import tariffs on UK goods? Doubt it, especially given that we are net importers with the EU? They would have more to lose in a trade war with us. And we could always re-embrace trade as we used to do with other Commonwealth countries. Anyone fancy some New Zealand lamb for Sunday roast? And as for the argument about foreigners forcing down the cost of labour, well surely this is because of the amount of low-skilled immigrants that the EU open door policy has allowed this? If we were able to introduce a points system for immigration then we get a higher skilled workforce, less low skilled workers and therefore lower end wages would have to rise to attract employees to do such work.
As I said, call me naive but I cannot see the argument about the dangers of leaving the EU, only the pluses. | |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 13:29 - Mar 31 with 1877 views | ElHoop |
I don't know about morally superior or inferior - it's all just views but if you are supporting immigration then surely you have to accept the negative aspects and try to do something about it? Yeah maybe people don't want to think around all sides of it. I just cannot comprehend how you can on the one hand position yourself by declaring that public services matter so much that austerity is terrible and inhumane, and at the same time ignore the fact that immigration can have the same effect on those public services. Either you care that much about public services or you don't. You can't have it all ways. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 13:46 - Mar 31 with 1840 views | AgedR |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 13:29 - Mar 31 by ElHoop |
I don't know about morally superior or inferior - it's all just views but if you are supporting immigration then surely you have to accept the negative aspects and try to do something about it? Yeah maybe people don't want to think around all sides of it. I just cannot comprehend how you can on the one hand position yourself by declaring that public services matter so much that austerity is terrible and inhumane, and at the same time ignore the fact that immigration can have the same effect on those public services. Either you care that much about public services or you don't. You can't have it all ways. |
Of course there are many thousands of migrants who undertake crucial roles in public services, but, I suppose that's not really the point.
I am interested to know who this indigenous peoples of our fair island are though. What their cultural heritage is and how we can qualify their entitlements (or disqualify).
This is a very old tune, played on a very old fiddle. But then I'm a very old internationalist.
We'll all be fine come Saturday, when we can watch 11-14 footballers who I would like to forcibly repatriot to where they came from. |  |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 13:56 - Mar 31 with 1825 views | Hunterhoop |
Good debate on here. Well done for Disco for starting the poll and quite interesting reading certain perspectives.
Also, cheers to whoever posted the "voteforpolicies" survey.
Took that last night and did the whole thing. No shame in sharing my results. As we all know, it's all subjective.
Lib Dem 40%
Labour 30%
Conserative 20%
UKIP 10%
Green 0%
Bit surprised Labour and Conservatives weren't the other way around, as in my head I'd pretty much ruled out voting Labour because I don't trust them with the economy and really don't rate or like Miliband as a leader.
Anyway, the thing is, I don't think the survey is actually that good in that it has two major flaws.
1) It doesn't allow you to weight the policy areas in terms of importance to you and then apply a multiplier effect to the party's policies you choose. "Crime", for example, as a policy area, is less important to me (and the parties are broadly closer in policies here) than the "economy" and "immigration" but the weighting is the same.
2) It doesn't appear to factor in how often and for whom you tick you "may consider voting for these policies". It only produces scores based on the one set you pick. Surely, although I imagine it's complicated, it should be able to factor this in so a party who you don't pick their policies as the final set, but who you say you "may consider" voting for on every policy, has this reflected somehow?
Anyway, what I found most useful about this whole site and which had the biggest impact on me in terms of what I will do with my vote was the link to see how your MP has voted in the last term.
Now, I won't say who my MP is, but, from what I knew of them, I was relatively positively disposed to them and, whilst I didn't agree with them on a couple of vociferous issues, I thought they'd carried themselves well and represented the majority of their constituents well. As a result I was considering voting for "them" rather than a party. Anyway, I read through how they voted and was astounded! I disagreed with them on about 70% of how they voted, so of it staggeringly so. There is no way I can vote for this person (though I accept some of their voting will have been a 3 line whip) to represent me. So I have now discounted that candidate.
Definitely worthwhile doing. They say the proof is in the pudding; I'd certainly advise spending 15min scrolling through how your current MP has voted in the last term. VERY useful in helping me make my mind up. |  | | |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 14:00 - Mar 31 with 1821 views | Juzzie |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 16:12 - Mar 28 by paesanu |
Now THIS is an interesting premise.
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
Tick the policies you like, and you get to see who you truly support, without being blinded by colours, bias, preferences, history, personalities, loyalty.
You may be surprised. |
I did that test and it came out the same as when I did a similar test 5 years ago.
The problem is all the Policy Sets seemed good, they all make wonderful promises and this, IMO, is the problem.
They all promise wonderful things and then either fail to deliver or have no realistic chance of delivering but hey, once they are in, they are in. |  | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 14:14 - Mar 31 with 3492 views | QPR_Jim |
To be fair he didn't say they are thick or ignorant, you've just assumed that he thinks they are to fit your agenda.
Pot, kettle etc.
For what it's worth I have long discussions with my work colleagues about UKIP as one is quite open about voting for them this coming election. I often pick him up on the fact that he's reliant wholly on second hand information from newspapers and nothing he ever contributes is from personal experience. Some other fun facts about him are that he used to be a member of the NF and he's openly homophobic. He probably doesn't help UKIPs cause as he's what I, and others who know him, think of when someone says they vote UKIP. The party members who keep on saying or doing the wrong thing don't help either.
Given their long list of f*ck ups I don't think it's unreasonable to question UKIP and sometimes it's supporters about their motives, especially when I've experienced different. |  | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 15:02 - Mar 31 with 3429 views | paulparker |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 14:14 - Mar 31 by QPR_Jim |
To be fair he didn't say they are thick or ignorant, you've just assumed that he thinks they are to fit your agenda.
Pot, kettle etc.
For what it's worth I have long discussions with my work colleagues about UKIP as one is quite open about voting for them this coming election. I often pick him up on the fact that he's reliant wholly on second hand information from newspapers and nothing he ever contributes is from personal experience. Some other fun facts about him are that he used to be a member of the NF and he's openly homophobic. He probably doesn't help UKIPs cause as he's what I, and others who know him, think of when someone says they vote UKIP. The party members who keep on saying or doing the wrong thing don't help either.
Given their long list of f*ck ups I don't think it's unreasonable to question UKIP and sometimes it's supporters about their motives, especially when I've experienced different. |
TBF Jim, UKIP'S fcuk ups are minor compared to some of the whoppers that the tories & Labour have come up with over recent times
a lot of people just vote because they like the look of a party or the leader or even the colour the party is rather than read up on manifestos that could apply to your workmate ,
he may not help himself with some of his views but couldnt that be said of some Labour supporters casting their views or branding those who vote to the right Rascist |  |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 16:02 - Mar 31 with 3368 views | QPR_Jim |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 15:02 - Mar 31 by paulparker |
TBF Jim, UKIP'S fcuk ups are minor compared to some of the whoppers that the tories & Labour have come up with over recent times
a lot of people just vote because they like the look of a party or the leader or even the colour the party is rather than read up on manifestos that could apply to your workmate ,
he may not help himself with some of his views but couldnt that be said of some Labour supporters casting their views or branding those who vote to the right Rascist |
Whilst true UKIPs fcuk ups can only be minor until they get to power. Most of their issues are members saying stuff they shouldn't, a bit like Brown and bigot-gate. But whilst offensive to that particular lady, calling her a bigot after spending a small amount of time with her is slightly different to the UKIP candidate saying she doesn't like negros.
I don't think UKIP are racist, I think they attract some racists, perhaps more than other parties. All parties have their undesirables, varying degrees of crooks, liars etc. But all debates like this tend to end up with the parties reduced to a stereotype from both sides. UKIP - racist, Labour - war mongering gold sellers, Lib Dems - limp wristed and Tories - greedy elitists.
I have no doubt that not all people read through the manifestos, regardless of their beliefs, that's why the vote for policies site is quite interesting. (I'm 50% Lib Dems, 20% green, 20% Lab and 10% Cons). | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 18:06 - Mar 31 with 3290 views | derbyhoop |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 13:05 - Mar 31 by DWQPR |
Forgive me for being naive but I really don't understand these pro-Europe scare stories. I for one would like to see the people of the UK decide, democratically, on an issue which is probably one of the most undemocratic institutions in the world other than FIFA and Russia. If we leave the EU why would foreign car manufacturers suddenly up sticks and leave for Eastern Europe? Surely if it is better for them to do this they would have done it already. We are not part of the single currency, so the same currency fluctuations on exporting to the EU would remain? Would the EU start to throw around import tariffs on UK goods? Doubt it, especially given that we are net importers with the EU? They would have more to lose in a trade war with us. And we could always re-embrace trade as we used to do with other Commonwealth countries. Anyone fancy some New Zealand lamb for Sunday roast? And as for the argument about foreigners forcing down the cost of labour, well surely this is because of the amount of low-skilled immigrants that the EU open door policy has allowed this? If we were able to introduce a points system for immigration then we get a higher skilled workforce, less low skilled workers and therefore lower end wages would have to rise to attract employees to do such work.
As I said, call me naive but I cannot see the argument about the dangers of leaving the EU, only the pluses. |
If the difficulties in Greece, Italy and Spain can cause turmoil in the financial market, try to imagine the effect the worlds 6th largest economy would cause, by pulling out of the EU to embark on an uncertain future. Economic growth, across Europe, would plummet. The aftermath would be like a particularly messy divorce. Don't expect your ex to invite you round for dinner.
In economic terms I believe you would see a significant downturn. Foreign companies who are major exporters would reconsider investment plans. It might not have an immediate effect but over 2/3 years you would see an export of skilled jobs.
Ireland has a big IT and pharmaceutical industry, already. Corporation tax of 12.5% compared with 20 in the UK is enough to justify relocation. Major changes to markets would have a similar effect |  |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 22:57 - Mar 31 with 3220 views | ganjR |
Well, according to this poll, we'll have a UKIP / Labour coalition. How lovely. :0
Out of interest, who do people think will win or form the next government?
Scotland will get SNP (obviously), I think England will get a Tory / UKIP coalition.
Wales.... Are Plaid Cymru as big as SNP are in Scotland? Would've thought Labour in the South, P.C in North and Lib Dems in border areas?
Norn will be DUP I guess? |  | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 23:01 - Mar 31 with 3218 views | WanderR |
We need to wait until the full party manifestos are published before we can have an informed debate although I will say on the Euro 'in or out' referendum: leaving the EU won't do anything about immigration unless we also leave the EEA. |  |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 04:20 - Apr 1 with 3177 views | BasingstokeR |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 13:56 - Mar 31 by Hunterhoop |
Good debate on here. Well done for Disco for starting the poll and quite interesting reading certain perspectives.
Also, cheers to whoever posted the "voteforpolicies" survey.
Took that last night and did the whole thing. No shame in sharing my results. As we all know, it's all subjective.
Lib Dem 40%
Labour 30%
Conserative 20%
UKIP 10%
Green 0%
Bit surprised Labour and Conservatives weren't the other way around, as in my head I'd pretty much ruled out voting Labour because I don't trust them with the economy and really don't rate or like Miliband as a leader.
Anyway, the thing is, I don't think the survey is actually that good in that it has two major flaws.
1) It doesn't allow you to weight the policy areas in terms of importance to you and then apply a multiplier effect to the party's policies you choose. "Crime", for example, as a policy area, is less important to me (and the parties are broadly closer in policies here) than the "economy" and "immigration" but the weighting is the same.
2) It doesn't appear to factor in how often and for whom you tick you "may consider voting for these policies". It only produces scores based on the one set you pick. Surely, although I imagine it's complicated, it should be able to factor this in so a party who you don't pick their policies as the final set, but who you say you "may consider" voting for on every policy, has this reflected somehow?
Anyway, what I found most useful about this whole site and which had the biggest impact on me in terms of what I will do with my vote was the link to see how your MP has voted in the last term.
Now, I won't say who my MP is, but, from what I knew of them, I was relatively positively disposed to them and, whilst I didn't agree with them on a couple of vociferous issues, I thought they'd carried themselves well and represented the majority of their constituents well. As a result I was considering voting for "them" rather than a party. Anyway, I read through how they voted and was astounded! I disagreed with them on about 70% of how they voted, so of it staggeringly so. There is no way I can vote for this person (though I accept some of their voting will have been a 3 line whip) to represent me. So I have now discounted that candidate.
Definitely worthwhile doing. They say the proof is in the pudding; I'd certainly advise spending 15min scrolling through how your current MP has voted in the last term. VERY useful in helping me make my mind up. |
Have you tried this alternative?
https://uk.isidewith.com/political-quiz
Not sure if this is up to date with this weeks party policies, but it does some of the importance rating you mentioned. |  | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 08:30 - Apr 1 with 3141 views | Dorse |
I know it's childish and slightly off topic but a local farmer whose land backs onto the main road has put up a huge billboard-size Conservative sign with a picture of the candidate Geoff Hoare. Bearing in mind that this sign is basically in the middle of nowhere, I was mightily impressed to see that, within 24 hours of it going up, someone had painted a dodgy moustache on Mr Hoare. Suddenly, his confident, reassuring smile looks like the hopeful, predatory smirk of the man in a Mac, hanging around at the school gates with a bag of sweets.
Respect is due. |  |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 08:43 - Apr 1 with 3132 views | Discodroids |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 08:30 - Apr 1 by Dorse |
I know it's childish and slightly off topic but a local farmer whose land backs onto the main road has put up a huge billboard-size Conservative sign with a picture of the candidate Geoff Hoare. Bearing in mind that this sign is basically in the middle of nowhere, I was mightily impressed to see that, within 24 hours of it going up, someone had painted a dodgy moustache on Mr Hoare. Suddenly, his confident, reassuring smile looks like the hopeful, predatory smirk of the man in a Mac, hanging around at the school gates with a bag of sweets.
Respect is due. |
we have just had a renegade of funk put a wig , lipstick (paint) and a huge bra on our statue of winston churchill in woodford green .
if that doesnt encapsulate the spirit of sacrifice of che guvaras rather micro meager contribution of having his hands chopped off in the jungle and placed in a kilner jar of formaldehyde, then i dont know what will. | |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 09:47 - Apr 1 with 3107 views | doogi55 |
europe what work you do who employs you because thats where leaving europe will affect people the most. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 09:55 - Apr 1 with 3096 views | TheBlob |
And has eight pages of political bile and exsanguination changed anyone's mind?
Nope,didn't think so. |  |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:01 - Apr 1 with 3094 views | Jamie |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 12:57 - Mar 31 by ElHoop |
That's what you keep saying but I don't get it. You haven't answered the question, which was:
'Tell me Jamie, how many extra people are you going to plan for over the next ten years in terms of education, hospital services, housing and such like? Or don't you care? '
Are you saying that the ability to provide adequate services doesn't matter? How many new immigrants is enough and how many is too much? What's the point of talking about austerity and cuts when we don't know how many we are catering for in the first place? I just don't get it, it doesn't make sense. |
Well as net migration has fallen under the current government, I would answer that I really don't see it as being the Armageddon scenario that you clearly do. You seem to be of the opinion that within the next Government period we are going to see a noticeable rise in national population, which is just not true. There might be a fluctuation in the demographics between British & Eastern European, but then as you and other UKIP voters have vehemently insisted, that doesn't matter...
Of course housing is not the issue, rather genuinely affordable housing to get first time buyers on the property Ladder.
As already said, I would fully support extra funding for the NHS. It's the only UKIP policy with even a modicum of common sense behind it. Unfortunately, it's hot air as they cannot raise the funding.
As for the number of new immigrants, so long as they are providing a service to the UK economy then there is no barrier to how many is enough. As much as we need the skilled labour, we also need the unskilled labour too. The only change I would fully support is cutting of access to any form of financial support for at least 6 months after arrival, and also to get the message out more fully that there really is no point travelling here if you don't speak English, to stop those chasing the imaginary pot of gold. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:07 - Apr 1 with 3086 views | ElHoop |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:01 - Apr 1 by Jamie |
Well as net migration has fallen under the current government, I would answer that I really don't see it as being the Armageddon scenario that you clearly do. You seem to be of the opinion that within the next Government period we are going to see a noticeable rise in national population, which is just not true. There might be a fluctuation in the demographics between British & Eastern European, but then as you and other UKIP voters have vehemently insisted, that doesn't matter...
Of course housing is not the issue, rather genuinely affordable housing to get first time buyers on the property Ladder.
As already said, I would fully support extra funding for the NHS. It's the only UKIP policy with even a modicum of common sense behind it. Unfortunately, it's hot air as they cannot raise the funding.
As for the number of new immigrants, so long as they are providing a service to the UK economy then there is no barrier to how many is enough. As much as we need the skilled labour, we also need the unskilled labour too. The only change I would fully support is cutting of access to any form of financial support for at least 6 months after arrival, and also to get the message out more fully that there really is no point travelling here if you don't speak English, to stop those chasing the imaginary pot of gold. |
So if no number of immigrants is too many, how do we know how many school places are needed for instance? | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:07 - Apr 1 with 3085 views | doogi55 |
you should vote on polices not that you just dont like there leader.
the tories will only talk about the economy because thats what they think will win them the election.
but those jobs they created are not contarcted full time jobs.
the end of zero hours contracts would be a good think i thought the tally man was got rid of in the 50s he is back now dish out the hours and shifts to the people they like the rest can scramble for the left over shifts they are a discrace to the country. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:37 - Apr 1 with 3063 views | qprewan |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 14:00 - Mar 30 by Discodroids |
dear oh dear, how tedious. The ten commandments of great LFW undergraduate..
1. discodroid posts a pisstake out of the labour party or responds to UKIP charges of 'racism', 'homophobia','misogyny' or 'gingerisim' by other posters
2.discodroid gets personal comment from poster usually 'racist', 'homophobic','misogyny' or 'gingerisim', druggie or alcoholic.
3.discodroid responds in kind
4. the poster requests discodroid ban from clive, somehow ignoring thier irony detector about to explode and is incredulous that their personal comment served like sue barker in a tu tu is returned at 140 mph roscoe tanner style.
5.poster places discodroid on ignore, then takes him off, then places him on, then off, then on.. or as many times as david lammy and dianne abott interview private school head teachers for their kids while telling you to dump yours in a class of 47 latvians and child soldiers from the congo
6. poster raises the bar and demands satisfaction from discodroid like a pistols at dawn micheal foot in buckskin , by delving into his loaded gun dirt chamber (or 6th form misty buff folder of revolutionary theories with cocteau twins /the fall stickers on it ) usually found in their public school tuck box.
7.discodroid informs the poster to retun to his judas priest poster on wall .subect matter female subjugation in leather) to expunge his thin, slightly acidic harry monk into a discarded fray bentos steak and ale pie tin(next to the garden peas and frozen mash)
8. im going to lunch
9. be back later
10. i'll say hello to the romanian beggar with no nose outside stratford primark for you.
ive said many times over jamie on these hallowed pages while i'll be voting for nigel luther farage . the funny thing is ive only seen metallica step up to the plate and admit it on here, but i can see the pie chart tells a different story.
now you still havent apologised for your druggie of alcoholic slur upon my good character.
our business, such as it is, is done sir.
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Only just tuned into this thread but love your number 5 Disco; even though I am left wing and will vote Labour; have never liked Diane Abbott ; hypocrite of the highest order and always talks down to people.
But the likes of millionaires like Camron and Osborne lecturing and scapegoating poor people on benefits is even more sickening... | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:42 - Apr 1 with 3053 views | Discodroids |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:37 - Apr 1 by qprewan |
Only just tuned into this thread but love your number 5 Disco; even though I am left wing and will vote Labour; have never liked Diane Abbott ; hypocrite of the highest order and always talks down to people.
But the likes of millionaires like Camron and Osborne lecturing and scapegoating poor people on benefits is even more sickening... |
no problem mate.
couldnt agree more with you.
peace.
i should have added a number 11 to that list.
poster logs on to message board to down arrow discodroid posts in the evening but contributes not one single post or thread to said board.
poster then repairs to blow up bed for the night with triumphant mussolini smile on face, promising to himself to dye his hair red gold and green in the morning to seal a glorious victory . subsequent seductive dreams of lilly allen piledriving katie hopkins into dust with a strap on , result in bedsit morning dew on the 15 tog.
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