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| One year on with Pochettino on 11:56 - Dec 30 with 1109 views | stmichael |
With the greatest respect it is quite clear that we are a much better team since Poch took over.
I actually think it is quite insulting to him to even answer the question.
We are a fitter team with a modern style of play that isnt that common to the premier league.
We are able to play ANYBODY home or away and dictate the play which is shown by the possesion statistics.
I think we were or are 2nd in the league for possession.
This means that technically our players are very accomplished.
What we dont have is the clinical finishing of half chances that the top clubs have so we dont always get the reward for our possession.
We are certainly very attractive to watch and our pressing game is outstanding.
I am not sure that Nigel has the technical knowledge to have taken us the next level however we will never know.
I was Nigels biggest fan but I think we have improved immensely under Poch. | |
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| One year on with Pochettino on 12:04 - Dec 30 with 1099 views | Del_Bianco |
We are better but MP has a number of advantages that Adkins didn't.
A fit Boruc since January, It was only on NYD last season Boruc came into the side and stayed there.
A quality centre half in Lovren.
A team with a seasons premier league experience under their belts.
Shaw breaking through so not having to rely on Fox.
Another £35m spent in the window on 3 international players.
Just recently MP has had to play with the same team Adkins had for a lot of his time in the premier league and got similar results and similar performances. [Post edited 30 Dec 2013 12:30]
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| One year on with Pochettino on 12:11 - Dec 30 with 1073 views | ArthurHucksake |
5 points from the last 32 = far worse than Adkins.  | |
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| One year on with Pochettino on 12:23 - Dec 30 with 1057 views | A1079 |
Thanks Stmichael. I tend to agree with most of what you say, though I was not intending to be insulting.
I asked the question really as a point of debate in that, whether we like it or not, the club made great play about moving to the "next level" on his appointment. MP himself set out the positives that he has achieved in the last year, which by and large cannot be argued, though I do think he and the team are lacking in some areas, which to be fair, is always going to the case unless you achieve perfection - which is highly unlikely under anyone.
Our possession football has been a significant move forward and quite brilliant at times, the way and manner we have introduced so many young new players to the team in virtually all positions and mostly home grown is something to be immensely proud of both as a club and a supporter and I believe is a benchmark for the country as a whole if they dare to actually take notice. The manner in which (whether we are home or away) we do not appear to be over-awed by the opposition.
On the whole, our football is attractive and entertaining, though personally I think I found a larger number of games more entertaining under Adkins probably due in large to the number of goals scored and conceded which always made it unknown and unpredictable but was probably less technically able.
I am not sure that MP is that tactically aware and all too often I have found he largely sets out the team to play one way whether it is working or not and I think that has been found out in the last couple of months. For example, against Everton, everyone knows that they use the width of the pitch and heavily rely on their full backs to come forward and indeed a majority of Everton's goals have emulated from defence and yet we played narrowly the whole game allowing their full backs to attack almost at will. Also against struggling sides MP has not always adjusted the team to the different styles of the opposition and then as you point out, for all our possession our finishing has been quite poor (though whether you can lay that at the manager or just the players I am not sure).
Our business in the transfer market is questionable. True, like any recruitment there are risks but we have spent alot of money on very few players and the return thus far has not been great - hopefully that will change. Not sure how much that is down to MP or higher up in the echelons. I am not close enough to these things to have any real idea.
Overall though, I will give Cortese his due, whilst I have not always felt comfortable with the manner he has disposed of people, especially say Pardew and Adkins (both of whom I rated and still do highly) what he has made sure of is that he has replaced them with someone who has continued the progress of the team and the club as a whole, maintained a positive attitude in the style of our play and that general feeling that whilst there will always be set backs we are moving forward and combining local home grown talent with some experience from elsewhere. [Post edited 30 Dec 2013 12:26]
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| One year on with Pochettino on 13:22 - Dec 30 with 1005 views | dirk_doone |
Like many Saints' fans, I was shocked when Adkins was sacked. But, things have all worked out for the best.
Under Pochettino, Saints have played some of the best football I have seen in all my years supporting the club. Much as I liked Adkins, I think that Pochettino is an improvement. Meanwhile, Adkins, who did a great job for us, has received financial compensation and got a job at Reading. So, life hasn't treated him too badly.
So, a year on, Saints are 9th in the Premier League while Reading are 9th in the Championship. [Post edited 30 Dec 2013 15:41]
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| One year on with Pochettino on 15:26 - Dec 30 with 909 views | trotsky |
Vaguely sensible conversation until Dirk's last comment.
Where is the evidence that we would have been relegated last season and currently be "9th in The Championship". That's wild speculation that flies in the face of what was happening until mid-January, i.e. after a rocky start (inevitable given the fixture list) Adkins was steering us upwards, improving the defence (without a significant change in personnel) and scoring plenty of goals with attractive, attacking football. He was sacked with us in 15th: why was decline so certain?
It will doubtless be shot down as "just one match" but if you compare the recent matches against Chelsea, it doesn't look too good for MP. In January we caught them in the break of European competition, but Adkins played things pretty smart and got out of there with a credible point, whereas earlier this month we arrived as serious contenders, selected Osvaldo and created absolutely nothing for 90 minutes (the goal being gifted to us). The 49% possession in the recent match isn't much of an improvement on the 45% in January.
MP has doubtless brought some positive improvements in certain areas, but his recent team selections have been highly questionable and I find he gets far more credit than he deserves, having taken over a team on an upward trajectory. [Post edited 30 Dec 2013 15:26]
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| One year on with Pochettino on 18:37 - Dec 30 with 834 views | SaintNick |
Its actually another month before Pochettino's year is up, Adkins went after gaining 22 points from 22 games with the team in 15th position. We finished 14th so the improvement was neglible last season
Undoubtably Pochettino has had the advantage of spending more money to improve the squad and that is a help but I think we can really only compare how much we have improved or other wise at the end of the season, the reason for this is that our early season form has lead to much saliverating amongst some, but our performances in the last 10 games with only 9 points picked up is a cause for worry,
So lets see where we are at the end of the season, only then can we take a longer term view of how well he is doing and allow for drops in form and injuries etc | |
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| One year on with Pochettino on 21:52 - Dec 30 with 787 views | A1079 |
I guess Nick it is about targets and I guess our first is to get to that 40 point mark and then 50 point mark. I think those with their feet on the ground had reasonable expectations for the season and alongside that those of us that delighted in our early success were pragmatic enough to realise that it was unlikely to last and equally a bad run doesn't mean the wheels are coming off. | | | |
| One year on with Pochettino on 21:57 - Dec 30 with 783 views | SaintNick |
Your absolutely right it is about realistic targets and we have to be pragmatic, but we also have to spot trends and the worrying trend at the moment is that in the last 10 games we havent averaged even a point a game and that is not good, at the moment it can be rectified, but if we dont pick up in January then we might find ourselves truly in freefall, thats why im setting the time to review Pochettino at the end of January, then we will see the true state
1. How we have fared in a full year
2. How good our current form is | |
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| One year on with Pochettino on 22:10 - Dec 30 with 776 views | Heisenberg |
Forget Europe and top 4 finishes a successful first season for MP would be to finish somewhere between 12th and 8th. We are currently 9th and playing some of the best football I've seen Saints play for years and would not have been playing under Nigel Adkins. We have had a slight blip after a series of difficult games and injuries to key players. Looking at our fixtures after the New Year we are well on course for a top 10 finish which in his first year for MP is a real achievement. Imagine what he might do when he can build his own team. Every time I hear people talk about Saints it's always very positive. Apart from the half pint empty lot on here. | |
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| One year on with Pochettino on 22:26 - Dec 30 with 766 views | thedelldays |
not like nick to bring people down to earth
when we had everyone fit, completely dominating teams at SMS and getting points away at anfield and OT. Nick was telling everyone to 'wait till the enxt 3" to see how far we have come
now when we are decimated by injuries with a squad that is not particularly strong, nick os very quick to point out current form.....
not the case when winning 3 on the spin, though | | | |
| One year on with Pochettino on 22:29 - Dec 30 with 758 views | SaintNick |
Im not bringing anyone down to earth, the results in the last ten games are doing that, as i said lets see where we are at the end of January | |
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| One year on with Pochettino on 23:05 - Dec 30 with 741 views | Heisenberg |
For me the question is where we should strengthen the team. MP is doing an excellent job. Personally I would like to see us get a striker in. Lambert is struggling a bit and Osvaldo doesn't convince. With our possession we should be scoring more goals and that will only come from a goal scorer. | |
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| One year on with Pochettino on 01:13 - Dec 31 with 717 views | dirk_doone |
He's got the players playing out of their skins and walking like giants. Lallana, Lambert, Rodriguez, Lovren, Fonte, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Ward-Prowse, Chambers, Gallagher & Boruc have had the best year of their careers. You can't ask much more than that from a manager:
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2013/12/30/4512351/- [Post edited 31 Dec 2013 1:15]
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| One year on with Pochettino on 09:58 - Dec 31 with 654 views | st_bangkok |
5 from 32. What a din. Get on the edit button alby. | |
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