3rd runway at heathrow 14:41 - Jan 29 with 8984 views | loftboy | But don’t panic, the £12.50 ULEZ charge I pay every home game will negate it. | |
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3rd runway at heathrow on 17:15 - Jan 29 with 1645 views | GaryHaddock | Labour are not left. That ship sailed in 1983. [Post edited 29 Jan 17:19]
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3rd runway at heathrow on 17:16 - Jan 29 with 1639 views | Hayesender | I'm not a massive fan of flying, but I put my fears to the back of my mind, otherwise I'd never get to go anywhere. But fck me, there's not a chance in hell you'd get me on a plane with an electric engine | |
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3rd runway at heathrow on 17:16 - Jan 29 with 1639 views | daveB | I know what you mean but they are seen as the left is what I meant | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 17:17 - Jan 29 with 1623 views | GaryHaddock | Ah yeah, totally. Seeing Starmer accused of being a communist makes me giggle. | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 17:28 - Jan 29 with 1562 views | SK_hoops | Left wing, right wing, it's all the same bird. (Edit: just seen that has already been posted, nvm). [Post edited 29 Jan 17:30]
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3rd runway at heathrow on 17:36 - Jan 29 with 1525 views | stowmarketrange | They’ll be ok as long as not everyone is charging their phones at the same time. | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 17:44 - Jan 29 with 1495 views | johann28 | Grand announcements like these always smell to me like someone desperate to impress - in this case the Chancellor, who must know that the chances of this going through are very slim given the local opposition, especially from those who will lose their homes, and sheer costs (SO FAR estimated at an eye-watering £14 billion - by contrast, Gatwick expansion has been estimated at £2.2 billion). | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 17:44 - Jan 29 with 1487 views | kensalriser | Loftboy, can't you park at Shenfield and get the train/Elizabeth line? That must be quicker and a lot less hassle than driving from there to LR. | |
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3rd runway at heathrow on 17:45 - Jan 29 with 1488 views | dmm | Do you honestly expect the world's airlines to switch to electric planes in 10 or 15 years? Even if the considerable challenges in creating commercial electric planes are overcome, the oil producing nations and industries will do everything in their power to stop that happening. And don't get me started on so called green aviation fuel! | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 17:56 - Jan 29 with 1430 views | stowmarketrange | It’s £21.90 for a return from Shenfield to anywhere in zone 1 on the Elizabeth line and there is normally 3 of us in the car,so it isn’t very economical to use that route.And the parking is probably the same as we pay at Redbridge station. | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 17:59 - Jan 29 with 1425 views | PlanetHonneywood | The bigger problem is that 5 months in, he's not made nor appeared to be a discernable difference to that which the UK has endured post-Brexit. Being in opposition is considerably easier than government. People forget how hopelessly forlorn Thatcher's first few years were prior to the Falklands, and the new party in power often needs time to bed in to being in government. Blair, however, was considerably more savvy upon taking the reins; rolling out policies generally seen as favourable and having in Jonathan Powell, a smart operator as his chief of staff. Starmer has already dropped his chief of staff and lead with decisions that have not gone down well. The winter fuel payments were particularly hard to explain. However, he's on to a loser from the outset in my view. I don't think the Tory press will give him a chance and will certainly seek to vilify at every opportunity above and beyond what was metered out to his five immediate predecessors who frequently deserved vilification. But he does need to up his game because we can't necessarily rely upon the Argies to rouse themselves into action (although I suspect Senór Milei would be up for it) and that supposes we've kept our military capabilities up over the last 43 years, to being able to sail 8,000 miles south to engage in a conflict. Frankly, when looking at the matter globally, there appear to be far too many egotistical and idiotic leaders in charge then there are clever ones. | |
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3rd runway at heathrow on 18:09 - Jan 29 with 1388 views | charmr | Imperial college have been hanging on to that lane for ages knowing they can sell it when the time comes. Both sides of that road has huge spaces. What I’m not hearing from the current labour goverment is the complete bollocks that were continually spouted by the Tories ad nauseam that had nothing to do with any policies but just to irritate people and distract them. The point is policies are driven by economic thinking and nothing is gauranteed to work. There is also economic thinking about big and grand does not work either from the thinking of the economist E.F Schumacher. Neo Liberalism is in charge with no plans to go away any time soon regardless who ever the ring master is. Ps. Friend of mine has been waiting 30 odd years to get rid of his house through compulsory purchase who lives in Harmondswoth. [Post edited 29 Jan 18:27]
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3rd runway at heathrow on 18:17 - Jan 29 with 1358 views | NewYorkRanger | Is it hypocrisy or could he have changed his mind over a long period of time when faced with new information? Don't get me wrong, I'm no Starmer fan boy, but if this is hypocrisy it surely means no-one is ever entitled to change their mind about anything? | |
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3rd runway at heathrow on 18:21 - Jan 29 with 1331 views | Toast_R | Not a penny on your council tax.... Waiting for those bills to drop for April. | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 18:28 - Jan 29 with 1281 views | charmr | Worst government in your lifetime. What are you 6 months old. Strewth. | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 18:30 - Jan 29 with 1267 views | NewBee | It's already been done elsewhere eg Charles De Gaulle Airport in Paris: [Post edited 29 Jan 18:36]
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3rd runway at heathrow on 18:35 - Jan 29 with 1213 views | dmm | What would that new information be exactly? | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 18:37 - Jan 29 with 1195 views | Gloucs_R | Does this affect our training ground at all? | |
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3rd runway at heathrow on 18:43 - Jan 29 with 1177 views | loftboy | Because I pick up Stowmarket Ranger I come down the M11,there always seems to be weekend works on the A12 currently. | |
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3rd runway at heathrow on 18:46 - Jan 29 with 1166 views | dmm | The training ground would be a good distance away going east so I don't think it would affect it other than more plane noise. | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 18:47 - Jan 29 with 1154 views | charmr | Every lousy Monday morning Heathrow jets go flying over our home. | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 19:12 - Jan 29 with 1084 views | daveB | I said the one 6 months ago was the worst in my lifetime | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 19:26 - Jan 29 with 1038 views | PlanetHonneywood | When an A380 takes off, you don't want to be taking a penalty! | |
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3rd runway at heathrow on 19:49 - Jan 29 with 991 views | colinallcars | I was dead set against the expansion of the Grand Union canal into Paddington Basin in 1849. Did they listen ? | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
3rd runway at heathrow on 19:50 - Jan 29 with 988 views | NewYorkRanger | I've no idea, and that wasn't the point of my post. It was more to see whether or not this is actual hypocrisy or a changed opinion. By the same token, You couldn't definitively state that there isn't new information he has been made aware of | |
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