Pitch update on 15:54 - Jan 10 with 5884 views | Duckegg | The article explains quite a lot about the current pitch issues and what they are trying to do to remedy the issues. Calling in experts to evaluate the problem and how to go about it will come at a cost but at what cost in possible lost gate income... | | | |
Pitch update on 16:05 - Jan 10 with 5805 views | Dalenet | Its a bit depressing to read - but at least we have a better sense of what is going on now. The club needs a period of dry weather to get on top of temporary solutions. I suspect we have no choice but to make enquiries of other grounds in the area to get us through February. But the impact on the club at not having home games for the best part of two months will be significant. If the club need to run some events in the bars in the meantime to get some cash in they should say so. I appreciate that they have also apologised for the inconvenience and cost that many fans have been through with cancellations. | | | |
Pitch update on 16:25 - Jan 10 with 5716 views | dholdh | It is depressing to read, but I'm glad they have as from the outside looking in, noone knew if anything was happening about it or if everyone was just praying for a solution. Having clarity of what steps the club are taking, and the explanations about the current situation, covers etc, is appreciated. | | | |
Pitch update on 16:48 - Jan 10 with 5615 views | isitme | Very detailed article so fair play to the club. It does make grim reading. | | | |
Pitch update on 17:22 - Jan 10 with 5488 views | DaleFan7 | Surely this is where the benefit of having wealthy owners should come in. We're not expecting them to spend millions on players and wages but the pitch is integral to having a football club and a working pitch is needed to make it sustainable. We must be losing thousands to these postponements and potentially even more if our fixture congestion catches up to us. | | | |
Pitch update on 17:44 - Jan 10 with 5395 views | 442Dale | Comprehensive article which acknowledges fans questions and concerns with detailed responses. Excellent example of how good communication fosters better engagement and understanding amongst supporters. The standard has been set, no reason this can’t continue. Got to feel for the playing side of the club, this uncertainty must be beginning to have a real impact. | |
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Pitch update on 19:30 - Jan 10 with 5122 views | wozzrafc | Who do you think will be covering the cost of the immediate emergency repairs and any major repairs that can only be done close season | | | |
Pitch update on 20:19 - Jan 10 with 4957 views | D_Alien | Wouldn't it just be easier if the club, in the same spirit of open communication, just told us? | |
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Pitch update on 21:02 - Jan 10 with 4783 views | DaleFan7 | We don't know. Will it be a cash injection? Will it affect the playing budget if its hundreds of thousands? | | | |
Pitch update on 22:45 - Jan 10 with 4548 views | dingdangblue | Really shocking situation really that a game has been called off on Friday that takes place on the following Wednesday. The forecast for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday is 7 - 9 degrees temps and a bit of light rain/drizzle. Surely work could have been done on these days to get the game playable? | |
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Pitch update on 23:00 - Jan 10 with 4513 views | wozzrafc | Why do they have to say who is paying for it? Yes 100% they should be open and transparent with updates on the situation regarding the state of the pitch and what they are doing to put matches in the short term and resolve the issue in long term, but finances should be confidential. I am by no means defending the board. Todays update is long overdue and after the horse has bolted, but gives the fans what they need to know. [Post edited 10 Jan 23:01]
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Pitch update on 23:14 - Jan 10 with 4464 views | 442Dale | It’s the part about the centre circle which prevents that. To dig it all up and immediately play on it probably wouldn’t be possible. | |
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Pitch update on 23:35 - Jan 10 with 4410 views | D_Alien | That begs the question then: why raise the issue of how work on the pitch will be funded? My post was in reply to your question; "Who do you think will be covering the cost...?" You're now suggesting the club shouldn't provide that info, so why even ask? [Post edited 10 Jan 23:38]
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Pitch update on 06:34 - Jan 11 with 4136 views | James1980 | I wonder if it is worth cutting our losses and stop going for redress for the 2020 refurbishment. How much has it cost in fees so far. Also I thought the firm responsible is either no longer trading or under new ownership/management, perhaps I've imagined that detail. [Post edited 11 Jan 7:15]
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Pitch update on 10:00 - Jan 11 with 3835 views | dingdangblue | Yes, just thought there could be a way of draining the centre circle area from above to get the game played then dig it up. The decision has been made now. | |
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Pitch update on 10:02 - Jan 11 with 3841 views | Drigdale | Personally I think it is an excellent update from the Club and enough information to take in for the majority of supporters. It does feel that the Club want to tell the fans more but can't for whatever reason i.e. Legal I do have faith that under the guidance of the new owners the matter will ultimately be resolved. Perhaps at that time the full story will be revealed. | | | |
Pitch update on 13:23 - Jan 11 with 3538 views | wozzrafc | I was referring to the post asking the question ”isn’t the benefit of having wealthy owners so we can spend money on pitch repairs” My point was that was exactly what they were probably doing. I wasn’t asking , it was a flippant comment in jest. Granted I didn’t reply to the post to make it easier for you to connect the two. It was you who then suggested the club should be open saying where the funds are coming from. So it’s perfectly valid to hold the view that sort of thing should be confidential. Hope that clears your confusion 😃 [Post edited 11 Jan 13:25]
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Pitch update on 13:59 - Jan 11 with 3421 views | 442Dale | Irrespective of where the money is coming from, I’m struggling to understand whether there should be any debate that it has to be spent. The club statement notes that last summer an external consultant advised “that the drainage failure was occurring below the root zone and that, ultimately, only a full reconstruction would guarantee a permanent resolution.” To clarify “only a full reconstruction” Now of course, other consultants may advise on other options, but the time has come to properly sort the situation out. It’s been proven that trying other routes and hoping is a false economy. | |
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Pitch update on 14:22 - Jan 11 with 3353 views | D_Alien | My question referred to "how" the pitch refurb will be funded, not by whom The answer to that is perfectly obvious, so why raise it? When the Ogdens took over, c.9 million ordinary £1 shares were issued, an amount which was presumably carefully calibrated to provide stability and an initial small boost to team-building alongside other projects What would be of legitimate interest is whether there's sufficient leeway within that initial stabilising funding of the club to cover the refurb or whether the Ogdens may be obliged to add to that amount The answer would come in due course, when the next financial accounts are published to shareholders (or further shares are issued). In the meantime, it'd help explain any reticence in funding the team or other initiatives, which is why transparency is often the better option Hope that clears the January fog for you [Post edited 11 Jan 15:06]
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Pitch update on 14:03 - Jan 12 with 2444 views | Dale69er | Nine million new Class A shares were issued @ 22p each. If further shares were to be issued, which class would they be and at what price? The price of an ordinary share is set at £2.35 | | | |
Pitch update on 14:14 - Jan 12 with 2420 views | D_Alien | Thanks for the revision, i appreciate facts This gives the club even less leeway within the initial investment to sort the pitch out without significant impact upon the other initiatives, not just team-building. This is something we can all be legitimately interested in; it's not being 'awkward' or over-inquisitive to do so | |
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Pitch update on 21:09 - Jan 12 with 2015 views | Yorkshire_Dale | Of at a tangent.....has it not been muted that a full refurb/rebuild of the Main Stand is under consideration? I suspect details are very much in early stages. If the drains around San Spotty are all been dug up, would this be an opportune time to do both? | | | |
Pitch update on 21:21 - Jan 12 with 1983 views | Dalenet | I read that we would hear more in February on the redevelopments planned. I am sure they will take a few years if it is a rebuild job. They have to get on with the pitch regardless. | | | |
Pitch update on 21:21 - Jan 12 with 1983 views | nordenblue | Not sure why you'd rush through a multi million pound job that's probably nowhere near ready to start just so it's convenient when the pitch needs sorting | | | |
Pitch update on 06:10 - Jan 13 with 1678 views | Plattyswrinklynuts | FWIW my take on the pitch is this…. Spend the money. We’ve already thrown good money after bad at this. It’s far from ideal but the only source of funding for the job is the new owners. I’m sure this wasn’t part of the initial plan but no pitch = no club. I’m skeptical as to whether we’ll see any compensation, any pitch laying company would put caveats into a contract re pitch upkeep, did the club follow instructions? As to the work required. Demolish the Sandy, do a full rip up of the existing pitch, including drainage & start from scratch. Drains to run out to Sandy Lane. Then rebuild as a standing terrace but with improved toilet facilities etc, possibly put solar panels on the roof to cut electricity costs? Ground share. Agree that sharing with Bury is a bad idea for reasons already stated, perhaps (although not ideal) a short term deal with City to use the athletics stadium next to the Etihad? It’s a fair distance but transport connections are good with regular trams from the city centre. Presumably we already have some dialogue with them as we’re using Platt Lane to train? Hornets to agree a similar deal with Mayfield? Thoughts? | | | |
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