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I'll start by saying, this is not my forum usually. But the artist formally known as Twitter has become an echo chamber of monstrous proportion.
Nourry needs to be removed from his post ASAP before he can do any more damage, there is a vandalism of our club happening and it needs to stop immediately.
But how do we do it? I feel like fans and supporters groups have been weak for a long time now. There were some great folk back when we are in administration that were with QPR 1st.
I've heard rumours of some stuff happening, but it needs to be coordinated and it needs to happen ASAP.
I'd honestly be close to being done with QPR if they sack Marti who is the only bloody good thing about this club right now.
Someone needs to bring this together, protests for protests sake do not work. It needs to have purpose, be targeted and ask the right questions and have the right people involved.
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:47 - Nov 19 with 4345 views
Your last paragraph indicates you clearly think your opinion is actually fact when it’s not, it’s just your viewpoint. In reality nobody on here knows the full truth and we are all just giving our opinions. You also imply that the poster is in league with Nourry or perhaps you think they are actually Nourry? It’s a different opinion to yours, that’s all.
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:49 - Nov 19 with 4324 views
Also quite contradictory as he has just done what he is accusing Blue Castello of. He doesn’t know for sure that “no one on here knows what’s going on”. Ned is just presuming his opinion is fact …when ..really …
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 12:30 - Nov 19 with 4182 views
Well if anyone on here DOES know what’s going on behind the scenes with the owners, Nourry, Belk, Williams, Cifuentes and their teams and can back it up with what their role in the club is or who their sources are then I’m sure we’re all ears.
Thought not.
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 14:53 - Nov 19 with 3884 views
It's not going to plan unless, of course, the plan was to be bottom of the league in November, 5 points adrift of safety, with one of the most incapable teams we've seen in a long time.
For me the problem is not so much trying to change too much too soon, but more about not understanding your requirements and buying the players you actually need.
It was clear at the end of last season that QPR needed a goalkeeper (to replace Begovic), a central defender (to cover for the injury-prone JCS), a right-back (so we're not reliant on Dunne playing out of position), a left-back (as Paal is in the final year of his contract and Lekerche was sent out on loan), at least 2 central midfielders who are genuine number 8s (to replace the aging, injury prone and card happy Colback), and 2 strikers (to replace the out-going Dykes and Armstrong). With Chair and Anderson already on board, what we certainly didn't need was more attacking midfielders or number 10s.
Of this brief, the recruitment team only satisfied 2 requirements in the shape of Nardi and Morrison. To recruit another DM (Varane), a RM pretending to be a RB (Santos), 3 AM/10s (Madsen, Dembele, and Saito), and 1 forward who doesn't suit the system (Celar) was negligent to say the least. To compound matters, the vast majority of these players had no experience of English football prior to joining.
Irrespective of Marti's abilities, no coach can deliver consistent results with such an imbalanced, inexperienced squad. Indeed, recruitment was so bad that we now find ourselves in a position where we're counting on core players like JCS, Colback and Frey to return asap, hit the ground running, and stay fit and suspension free. Come January, we'll no doubt look to the owners to dip into their pockets again to enable the same recruitment team who failed miserably in the summer to identify and recruit able reinforcements.
That doesn't sound like it's going to plan to me.
P.S. Regarding your imaginary discussion, you can't teach someone who shies away from the physical side of the game, how to tackle. Hence, we have midfielders like Madsen who go through 90+ minutes without completing a single one.
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 08:32 - Nov 20 with 3154 views
Interesting you are correct I shouldn't have said Nourry thought that's my fault, as you rightly say this Forum is all about opinions and the good thing is they are very diverse.
That said the person who has to take responsibility for the Summers transfer strategy surely has to be the CEO, now it might have been the Director of Football but we have scrapped that role and given it to the inexperienced CEO. None of us know what sort of process took place with regard to the actual transfers, we all hope there was some collaboration with the Manager but it definitely looks hugely analytical driven, do we think any scouting of the players took place.
The ban on giving Clive any interviews is very telling, just one interview with the Manager would clear up a lot of the Unknowns, how can anybody say it's all going to plan, relegation looks highly likely and that will also impact any transfer fees we may possibly get, priority number 1 was to build a plan that kept the club in the division whilst developing new players.....
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 12:58 - Nov 20 with 2806 views
Great to see a new poster to the site Mirrorball. Hope you continue to post despite occasional flights of fancy from a few of us on occasions and the occasional difference of opinion. We all want the same results ultimately.
Regards to the thread itself, i personally very much doubt that the plan had factored in that we would be bottom and adrift at this stage of the season.
Even if players improve a bit by the end of the season, currently there is a very high chance that we could be operating in league one, so the few peanuts in terms of profits we could get on certain players would be wiped out and some by operating at a lower level.
If this is the plan going well, as stated, by yourself, crikey what could be the scenario if we are not achieving the plans objectives !!
But we are ALL QPR..
Perhaps divine intervention and prayers at dawn required to sort things out this particular season !!!
There are people who know plenty. Revealing it all on a message board is not wise, it puts the poster in a predicament potentially, it might piss off the person who told you and could actually make things worse.
People don't do it to posture, people are genuinely worried about the direction the club is heading, there's enough information on a couple of threads on here that should give you enough to think about.
My advice would be to listen to those who have provided the information and pointed everyone in the right direction on his thread and the Marti out thread. Then, it's up to you and everyone else to decide where they stand.
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:05 - Nov 21 with 2255 views
Sorry Mark, it comes across as patronising and condescending.
Nearly all on here are not ITK and even if they were, unfortunately myself personally it says something that some get a sense of superiority from so called being ITK.
I would say everyone on here posts their own not ITK opinions and that's fine. Its a debating platform for real fans and that's what I personally enjoy about this site.
So thanks to the Central line we missed the first 30 minutes yesterday but what I saw I enjoyed, we competed and gave Stoke a game, with a bit of luck we would have had three points, a huge improvement on the Middlesbrough game but then that's because Stoke are nowhere near as good as Boro. Now Tom Cannon has always looked class from the first time we saw him at Loftus Road put two goals past us when he was on loan at Preston, if he had been wearing blue and white hoops yesterday we very likely would have won.
Bennys post hit the nail on the head, Marti has to stay and Nourry has to go, it's pointless moaning about the owners, Rubén and Amit are good people who genuinely want the club to be successful, we are not going to find another owner in our current situation and it would be Admin again if they leave......
We need somebody at the top again with experience as a Director of Football combining the job with CEO saved money but has been a disaster, running a football club is not all about analytics.
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 09:40 - Nov 24 with 1423 views
Our owners are naive and clearly poor at recruiting, but well intentioned in my opinion, they have the money, but need a decent senior management team below them to run it. Brighton are often mentioned, due to their access to data etc, but it’s not just that, they’re really well run. I may have shared before, but I’d recommend spending an hour listening to this, it’s an insight into how to run a club property from top to bottom with their CEO, Paul Barber. Nourry is a major problem and must be removed for us to sort this…
I agree, Nourry is the biggest problem at the moment due to his involvement in the football side of things and possibly Hoos too. Why should our Chairman be a part time/semi-retired role FFS.
We've seen before that owners can be distant but the club successful if the right people are involved. The previous owners had their most (only) success by stepping back, installing a Chairman and CEO in Amit and Ishan to manage the day to day. It was manager wants manager gets, but Warnock broke the trend by knowing what to do. I see no reason we couldn't have similar success with a good coach and DoF.
So it can be done with the right appointments while people willing to lose 2m a month are probably harder to find than competent DOF, CEO and Chairman. We have a good coach who's proven his ability, so let's get the other appointments up to a similar level and we could start behaving like a professional club.
I've said before that possibly the most diplomatic approach would be to appoint a DoF and keep Nourry in a CEO role with no football involvement until the end of season. Then I'd be sacking Hoos and Nourry. Nourry may prove to be better in a reduced role.
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 12:01 - Nov 24 with 1116 views
Must be nice to know stuff. Did you go to the game yesterday? Plenty of support (rightly) for Cifuentes but didn’t see any of your leaflets or hear any Nourry out chanting. Poor Celar seemed to be the target for the abuse.
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 23:43 - Nov 24 with 908 views
No one ever suggested leaflets. The whole point of the thread was to discuss the serious issue of the child in charge of the club and the owners and what we can do as fans to try and mitigate what would be a disastrous decision to sack this manager and let Nourry continue in his role.
It's worked as people are starting to see the issue and fanbase are united behind marti.
What is clear however, is that our fanbase is not organised or equipped to organise any kind of protest, meetings with the club. QPR 1st are not the force they were, people that could have a say don't want to as it could affect their professional careers and we are just in a different era now with youtube, podcasts etc. Fan organisations such as the LSA are (respectfully) abit older now as well.
I think a good start would be getting the loft flag lads to get the Marti Exceptional flag to Cardiff with someone and show it as the players come out.
Time is short.
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 23:51 - Nov 24 with 3322 views
Don't think the poster is asking for names and addresses - just something to back up 'ITK'-type responses that purport to be more than just opinion.
It would help, to state the obvious, if the club could show some transparency about recruitment, management, and targets/expectations etc., but it looks like that's not going to happen.
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