| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon 16:52 - May 10 with 20141 views | Northernr |
Clive Whittingham is joined by the Telegraph's senior sports writer Thom Gibbs and former Q Magazine editor Ted Kessler to run the rule over QPR's successful survival bid, outline priorities for the summer, guess where we go from here under Marti Cifuentes, and laugh at Andre Dozzell.
An hour of listening to send you into the weekend, available now to all three Patreon sub tiers...
https://www.patreon.com/posts/end-of-season-104003681 | | | |  |
| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 23:22 - May 12 with 3085 views | stainrods_elbow |
Just out of interest, what are the 'running costs' of LFW? Are there any more or less than running a blog, say?
I think a hobby is a hobby, basically, and we're also all writers on LFW to varying degrees (I know Clive is a journalist, but I was interested to know which other posters here are working writers/editors like myself), but I also think it's nice if one can monetise what one enjoys doing, and Clive's writing certainly cuts the mustard. [Post edited 13 May 2024 13:23]
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| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 03:57 - May 13 with 3012 views | Match82 |
Jeff, clearly a masterpiece of salesmanship here to remind those of us who aren't already donating that we should do so and it's worth every penny. May I suggest next time a less obvious pseudonym?
Excited to give this a listen, thanks to everyone who contributes in some way to what it takes to keep this site up and running. | | | |
| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 11:11 - May 13 with 2784 views | zizoustainrod |
Hi Jeff. Can I contact you privately somehow regarding my Loft for Words Patreon account (or lack there of). I'm a bit confused.  | | | |
| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 11:24 - May 13 with 2733 views | zizoustainrod |
Probably easiest to email this address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I will reply with my query. [Post edited 13 May 2024 11:36]
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| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 11:31 - May 13 with 2708 views | Jeff |
Will email you directly now - feel free to edit / delete your email address so you don't get botted... | |
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| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 12:49 - May 13 with 2578 views | hamptonhillhoop |
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| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 13:55 - May 13 with 2428 views | w7r |
Classy. | | | |
| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 14:24 - May 13 with 2351 views | nick_hammersmith |
The Wrexham doc only mentions the other teams in passing, apart from the head to head with Notts that season.
It's very strange isn't it, the actual football takes a backseat, almost like L2 is dogshit? | | | |
| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 14:50 - May 13 with 2302 views | Phildo |
Hi Jeff
Can you meet me in my office to run through your application to be head of marketing? | | | |
| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 17:53 - May 13 with 2174 views | ed_83 |
Off the top of my head I can think of paying for the server and associated website maintenance, licensing for match photos, and other content-related costs (I don't know if the guy who records and edits the audio for the podcasts does it for free, for example, or to what extent Clive needs to get things legally reviewed).
Then there are the costs of getting to games (largely for our benefit in recent seasons, it seems, rather than because Clive has been particularly enjoying the experience) and the costs of his time in writing, editing and managing everything - not least keeping us in line when the forum gets a bit spicy - which I suspect is likely to have impacted his other paid employment.
I don't think the line between hobby and job is as clear-cut as you suggest: plenty of people start doing things for the love of it, but as they become more successful things get more complicated and cumbersome. And plenty of people earn a pittance doing a job they love, when they could earn more elsewhere. The line between monetisation and passion has always been, in my experience, a pretty fluid one.
Either way, it was very clear when Clive set up the Patreon that he couldn't keep running LFW for free. I think the response since then shows how much value we place in what he does - if Clive is making a small cut on top of his costs for running LFW, I doubt any of us would begrudge him that in the slightest. | | | |
| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 19:15 - May 13 with 2105 views | stainrods_elbow |
Interesting to talk about it. I think my own point was that if one can make (more) fluid the relation between a hobby and monetising it, that's great, but it tends to depend on the niche one finds oneself in. For example, in my own fields of poetry and playwriting, it's incredibly difficult to make money, irrespective of the quality of what one does, whereas an old friend of mine has done very well in teaching Islamic art and running study trips etc., not just because he's talented and hard-working (which he is) but because there are so few people doing what he does.
In this context, it's also interesting to think about the role that contributing writers (i.e posters) play in adding value/prestige/attractiveness to a messageboard, many of whom also (may) go to games. I see Clive (obviously) as the lead writer on a forum like this, but I think everyone who takes the time and trouble to write on it out of their own passion and on their own time (as pure 'amateurs' of you will) also adds plenty of value too. I learn a lot as a writer from many people here, as well as being often edified and entertained, so I'm grateful to everyone (even those who don't like/block me) for what they do. [Post edited 13 May 2024 19:16]
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| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 10:16 - May 15 with 1786 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Just finished it this morning. Great listen. Fair, and funny. | |
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| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 07:15 - May 17 with 1427 views | cpgerber |
I noticed that the teams we beat in the last 3 games, PNE, Leeds and Cov, finished 22, 23 and 24 in the form guide for last 6 games of the season. Because of us, I like to think 
Does anyone have stats for how many set-piece goals we scored/conceded in the last 10 games or so? For me that has been one of the most outstanding transformations of this team. | | | |
| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 10:29 - May 17 with 1263 views | W7Ranger |
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| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 10:37 - May 17 with 1235 views | W7Ranger |
And that's the real quiz! | | | |
| End of Season Review - Live Now On The Patreon on 21:25 - May 17 with 1066 views | TacticalR |
If I may make an attempt to answer the question of Colback's high win percentage...
I think he is quite skilful and has a bit of nous. I noticed this early on in the season when we had a corner, and the ball came out to him, and he just pinged it out to the wing first time without having to take the ball down first. It was simple, but a lot of players can't do this. He also scored a couple of goals just by keeping his head over the ball and striking the ball cleanly. When Dozzell scored that goal against Middlesbrough it was Colback who instantaneously laid off the ball to Dozzell to set him up for the shot.
I was a bit more worried by all his yellow cards earlier in the season. Now I suspect he needs one every game to get himself going. | |
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