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Speed awareness courses. 12:55 - Jan 10 with 12132 viewsPaddyhoops

Just finished it . 3 hour course . No test and have to say very informative.
80% blokes mostly 50 somethings like myself.Well worth doing to avoid the three points.
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Speed awareness courses. on 17:02 - Jan 10 with 2157 viewsslmrstid

I did the Pass Plus back in 2007 after passing mine as it was meant to reduce your car insurance premiums as a teenage new driver. Did it bollocks. It did included motorway driving though under supervision which was great learning before heading off to do it yourself.
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Speed awareness courses. on 17:14 - Jan 10 with 2117 viewsMick_S

True story? I hope so - tremendous, Bos.

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Speed awareness courses. on 17:36 - Jan 10 with 2040 viewspaulhoop2

Did one during lockdown found it fairly interesting actually. Was caught doing 43 in 40 on western avenue. Mind you years back I had 9 points !

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Speed awareness courses. on 17:47 - Jan 10 with 2024 viewsHooping_Mad

Spirit animal probably has 3 points in the post.

On my one we had an ex-copper who was clearly the most anti-social of the lot. The guy running the course was clearly unimpressed.

We started off with how many points we had accumulated, after winning that with 16 I thought it best to just put on a show, I had them believing I was taking holy orders by the end of it.

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Speed awareness courses. on 17:50 - Jan 10 with 2008 viewsted_hendrix

I've had a clean driving licence since I passed my driving test In 1967.

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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Speed awareness courses. on 17:57 - Jan 10 with 1999 viewsBoston

Oh I assure you, it's true, and the confusion didn't end there.

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Speed awareness courses. on 18:05 - Jan 10 with 1983 viewsJuzzie

But have you driven since you passed??!
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Speed awareness courses. on 18:15 - Jan 10 with 1966 viewsBoston

Horse and cart though wunnit?

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Speed awareness courses. on 18:22 - Jan 10 with 1954 viewshubble

Done two of these now - both times I got done by an unmarked mobile camera in a van - both times on totally clear A roads that had sneakily put a 30mph limit just outside of the town/village where anyone would assume you were on a 60mph road. Fckers.

Second time the course leader was a retired detective who couldn't tell us enough anecdotes about his days arresting murderers and the like. Real fun.

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Speed awareness courses. on 18:35 - Jan 10 with 1928 viewsCOASTALHOOP

20 years ago my 12year old son Michael was knocked down and killed by a speeding driver. The driver was going just a few miles over the 30 but those few miles can make all the difference between surviving or not. Please think of this as you travel around. I think of little else every time I get behind the wheel. I have no points and never speed and that is how it will be for the rest of my driving life. I appreciate some of the posts above relate to motorway driving which are totally different sets of circumstances but on local roads speed kills. I’ve read numerous posts on the topic of speed cameras and awareness courses over the years and it never fails to annoy me how some people feel so hard done by just because they were caught.
Michael came with me and his brothers to watch many QPR games and also met a few regular posters on the old Rivals site in The BushRanger. I will never forget those posters who either came to Michael’s funeral or sent tributes. They even arranged a floral tribute from QPR. Watching my QPR has never been the same since.
If I may just leave one piece of advice with you all it would be ‘slow down’ There is nothing in our lives that’s worth the hurry.
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Speed awareness courses. on 19:20 - Jan 10 with 1865 viewsMick_S

You are so right. For what’s its worth, I, and many on here used to listen to Robbie Vincent. He used to do a chat show aside from being a soul dj. He is a very intelligent and caring man. The times he used to talk about the difference between driving at 20, and the massive impact another 10 mph will have on the victim. This was 40 years ago. Take it slowly, don’t rush. You are so right.

That was a very brave post mate. Good luck.

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Speed awareness courses. on 19:31 - Jan 10 with 1846 viewsnumptydumpty

Crikey Coastal

I can only imagine the horror that must have been

When I was 16 a family friends son who was 15 at the time cycled out of his family home to do his morning paper round only to be knocked down right outside his home.

Been on the speed awareness course myself fir doing 34 in a 30 but yes learnt about the difference speed makes upon impact
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Can't recall if the comparison was 30 mph v 40mph or 20mph v 30mph but one 80% live and the other 80% sadly pass.

It's a stark reminder. I can't even imagine how tough it must have been to carry on everyday life after such a tragic event.

Yes we all have everyday stuff that really isn't much at all of value to worry about but this I hope gets everyone who reads it time to think and observe a little more and consider their speed.

Well done for posting Coastal. Incredibly brave of you and wish you all the very best with all of your family today.
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Speed awareness courses. on 19:36 - Jan 10 with 1834 viewsPaddyhoops

London is so hard to drive in now. I have cyclists and funeral cortèges overtaken me!
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Speed awareness courses. on 20:04 - Jan 10 with 1774 viewsstowmarketrange

I think it’s 20 to 30mph.
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Speed awareness courses. on 20:44 - Jan 10 with 1719 viewsJuzzie

It’s all of them.
60 is better than 70
50 is better than 60
40 is better than 50
30 is better than 40
20 is better than 30
10 is better than 20
0 is better than 10

However, the government clearly uses 40/30 as the most defining benchmark, not 20/30;



Now it seems we’re being told it’s 20. What next, 10?

Any speed is harmful and I genuinely believe most people want to get it right, to keep to the right speed but when the details change it gets confusing. One minute we’re told 30 is ok then it’s 20 is ok.

I have two young kids too and my biggest fears for them are road accidents and knife crime, so I am acutely aware of the situation but we can’t all crawl around at 5mph (even though it feels like it sometimes anyway)

My heart goes out to you and your family Coastalhoop, I can’t even begin to imagine what that’s like.
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Speed awareness courses. on 20:49 - Jan 10 with 1704 viewsstowmarketrange

Cheers.The old memory isn’t what it used to be.

I had 9 points on my licence for a while in the days before speed awareness courses.I was pretty careful after that.
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Speed awareness courses. on 20:57 - Jan 10 with 1687 viewsflynnbo

Such a sad story and so sorry for your loss. I, too, am a stickler for keeping to speed limits and despair when I see people speeding up again just because they've gone past a 30 mph camera when the restriction applies to the whole area day and night and not purely to that stretch of road..
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Speed awareness courses. on 20:58 - Jan 10 with 1682 viewsBoston

On fast roads, I drive fast.

In town, I'm the chunt holding everybody up.

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Speed awareness courses. on 21:05 - Jan 10 with 1670 viewsessextaxiboy

I have done about 5 , including the 20 MPH Zone one the Motorway one and three ordinary ones . The 3 year course exclusion does not seem to count if the offence warrants a different type of course
There is always one old boy who thinks he shouldnt be there cos his lifetime clean licence has gone west.

I truly dont drive very fast at all ,they were always just over the threshold(hence I got the courses ) and mostly in the early hours when I was doing Airport Transfer .

In mitigation I was doing over 80,000 miles a year at that time , I think the average mileage of UK drivers is still under 12000 per year so around 7 times that .

So when people say they have driven 20 years with no problems, I think" well come back after 140 years and we can talk " . I dont dismiss the danger of speeding . Cars are a lethal weapon .
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Speed awareness courses. on 21:14 - Jan 10 with 1652 viewsnumptydumpty

Cars should all really be designed for travel to amble along at 20, 30, 40mph but some of them amble along when they at 120mph.

A worldwide obsession with speed and doing everything to the max does mean speed offences will always happen

There is loads to change if our roads become safer sadly
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Speed awareness courses. on 21:25 - Jan 10 with 1626 viewsflynnbo

The late great Dave Allen once recounted a story of how a friend once boasted of saving 10 minutes on a car journey and then proceeded to spend the saved 10 minutes on telling a friend exactly how he did it!
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Speed awareness courses. on 21:31 - Jan 10 with 1615 viewsJuzzie

The amble-along-at-120 is a good point.

When i had a VFR800 it genuinely felt awful at 30mph, like a dog straining on a leash. At 40 it felt so much better but the thing was occasionally i was doing 40 without realising. The bike was totally comfortable and could easily brake on a sixpence. It clearly was designed for motorway use where doing 90 on the autobahn was totally in its element.
Urban riding didn’t do it any good at all so i now have a CB500X that feels naturally comfortable at 30, so that’s a big improvement straight away. I can ride the bike instinctively at its comfy point knowing it’ll be doing 30.

There are so many cars that are clearly not suitable for slow urban use but what can you do… ban them? That’s a real vote killer.
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Speed awareness courses. on 22:12 - Jan 10 with 1551 viewsted_hendrix

Indeed I have, I reckon from memory the most I drove In a year was circa 46K miles, as I had a Company car for Years we had to do Monthly mileage returns and at the end of the year we'd get an annual mileage return from the Company.
We had a couple of high up Managers sweating on their jobs because they had totalled too many points and another speeding fine would have meant a ban and consequently down the road.
I could spend a week working from the car sometimes, I had sites from Gloucester up to Enfield, Banbury and beyond down to Southampton.

I drove from Umbria to Rome airport and back a few times and as they say"when In Rome" they are bloody mad over there and you become mad too.

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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Speed awareness courses. on 22:38 - Jan 10 with 1492 viewsflynnbo

Same for me Ted but since 1978 only!
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Speed awareness courses. on 23:21 - Jan 10 with 1456 viewsGus_iom

then they don't have indicators, they have confirmators
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