| Jack Diamond 08:49 - Jan 10 with 9208 views | kingsburyR |
I see on the news that a "former" Sunderland player Jack Diamond was suspended from the club after being arrested for a rape/sexual assault charge in 2022.
He was cleared by a jury within a couple of hours of their deliberations.
On all reports Jack Diamond was cleared of any wrong doing yet the woman who made the now false accusations remains nameless or cannot be named for legal reasons.
It turns out this woman willing got into his bed, had an ongoing sexual relationship with the player and had become possessive.
His career is fu(ked now. If this is a false accusation why is she not being prosecuted?
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| Jack Diamond on 15:59 - Jan 10 with 1581 views | blacky200 |
I don't se why both accuser and accused can't remain annonymous until the trial is over. If found not guilty both parties remain annonymous. If found guilty the accused can be named. | | | |
| Jack Diamond on 16:06 - Jan 10 with 1565 views | G_Ottershaw |
...taking into account the possibility of an underlying mental health issue effecting someone's decision or judgement, how do you prove consent in the modern world, witnesses, documents, video, apps ?
any violation of another person is clearly unacceptable, but it seems like a bit of a minefield to me. | | | |
| Jack Diamond on 16:09 - Jan 10 with 1544 views | Juzzie |
In that case, then yes. However, In my case she wasn't 'too intoxicated' but she had a few drinks and therefore inhibitions do get relaxed but then in the cold light of day a few days later they could question their decision making and maybe panic.
I've actually also been in the scenario you mentioned. The day of the Euro '94 final. I've been in a pub all day with this girl I knew from work. She'd also made it very clear that she was happy for some fun later on. We got back to hers that evening and she was so drunk she actually passed out next to me in nothing but just her knickers, literally virtually naked. So, I left her to it and went to sleep.
A few weeks later on my birthday and she loudly telling me with my friends there "what kind of man are you that didn't take advantage of a situation that you're right next to an almost naked woman!" so I loudly replied back "errr, the sort of person that doesn't rape a woman in her sleep".
She did suddenly look very sheepish.
I didn't speak to her after that and in fact didn't see her again for another couple of years and she came straight up to me and apologised. She was going through family troubles at the time. | | | |
| Jack Diamond on 16:24 - Jan 10 with 1507 views | SheffieldHoop |
Haha this reminded me of that Guy Martin quote
"Different things make different people happy, don't they? Some lads love going to the pub, I don't like being in the pub. Some lads love shagging, I don't like shagging. I don't mind it, but I'm not into it. I'd rather just go and ride me motorbikes"
I think the world massively underestimates how many men are like this. Because all the attention is focused on the 'desirable' men (Usually exactly the vain, exploitative types that might do this shit) - It's easy to ignore that most of us are just overgrown children who just want to be left alone to play with our toys.
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| Jack Diamond on 21:59 - Jan 10 with 1323 views | EalingHoop81 |
The law in England is that you remain innocent until proved guilty. The burden of proof may vary between the balance of probabilities and beyond reasonable doubt but failure to achieve the burden of proof requires a not guilty verdict, leaving the accused to remain innocent.
I do not believe there is any burden of proof that requires ‘certainty’ and so a claim could be made in the criminal court or a civil court against the accuser. I presume the CPS would have to do a very big about turn to make a case against the accuser (whom they determined the victim in the case and thought there was a reasonable prospect of a conviction to follow through with the court case in the first place).
The fact that someone accused is found not guilty in a court of law and people subsequently say they were just not proved guilty rather than declared innocent is exactly why the stigma of the claim follows them around for the rest of their lives.
Legally he is innocent | | | |
| Jack Diamond on 13:55 - Jan 11 with 1152 views | hubble |
Jack Diamond is a great name. He should play for Hearts. | |
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| Jack Diamond on 15:26 - Jan 11 with 1074 views | lightwaterhoop |
Then he could be the King of Hearts. | | | |
| Jack Diamond on 15:57 - Jan 11 with 983 views | LongsufferingR |
I can't wait for us to win a game of football. | | | |
| Jack Diamond on 16:38 - Jan 11 with 928 views | hamptonhillhoop |
I'd imagine he'll have lots of clubs | | | |
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