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Thought's on this from Les on 15:48 - Oct 13 with 10062 views

Misleading headline by the BBC. He actually said ‘SOME of the criticism came because of my colour’.

Bearing in mind I’ve seen posters on here call people ‘big black cnts’ I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that SOME people are anti Ferdinand because of his colour.

He backs the rest of the his interview up about job opportunities with facts so I don’t think he can be criticised for that either.

I hope this thread can pass by nicely.

Thought's on this from Les on 15:52 - Oct 13 with 10016 views

Wegerles_Stairs

I'd say eight years in a role he wasn't qualified for or had previous experience of doing was a pretty good opportunity.

Thought's on this from Les on 15:55 - Oct 13 with 9980 views

Hayesender

I can honestly say I've never (thankfully) ever heard him described as a black this or that, either on here or in the pub.

What people say or think in private is another matter, but there's fck all anyone can do about that

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Thought's on this from Les on 16:01 - Oct 13 with 9923 views

I never said they did.

Thought's on this from Les on 16:01 - Oct 13 with 9924 views

well, there was loads of stuff about 'Les's black mates', let's not try and deny that. you don't ever hear other DoF's being criticised for hiring their 'white mates' (which they do all the time).

Bare bones.

Thought's on this from Les on 16:07 - Oct 13 with 9885 views

JAY

Given some of the stuff I have seen on facebook I have seen about Les and Chris Ramsey, I'd say this is probably true, as much many won't like to admit it.

Thought's on this from Les on 16:07 - Oct 13 with 9883 views

Not sure he said it wasn't a good opportunity?
If the main criteria for a role was 'having done it before' how would anyone ever get any opportunities to move on up?

Bare bones.

Thought's on this from Les on 16:08 - Oct 13 with 9873 views

Hayesender

Misread what you said. Slightly regretting starting this thread now, as its only gonna go one way, but I suppose someone would have started one!

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Thought's on this from Les on 16:21 - Oct 13 with 9785 views

ThGrimRanger

A real shame that he feels this way and it portrays QPR in a very poor light when ultimately we have a great track record for diverse coaching staff, managers and ultimately the DOF.

I believe had Les been white he would copped a very similar level of criticism for his 8 years as QPR DOF. We 've never threatened playoffs in those 8 years and from a squad perspective we're in a right mess.

Budget is used as an excuse but many teams have thrived and been promoted with far less to spend than we've had over this time.

TheGrimRanger

Thought's on this from Les on 16:32 - Oct 13 with 9700 views

It doesn’t have to go that way.

No ag from me and none from you so far. It’s fine.

It’s an important topic.

Thought's on this from Les on 16:32 - Oct 13 with 9704 views

BrianMcCarthy

Hayes,

With all due respect, can you change your OP to reflect that he said "some".
It makes a HUGE difference in context.

"Some of the criticism that came was because of my colour," he said."

And then - the very reasonable:

"I always say to people, 'If I was a bad director of football, it wasn't because of my colour. It was just, I was a bad director of football. If I was a good one, it wasn't going to be because of my colour. It was because of my abilities.'"

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Thought's on this from Les on 16:34 - Oct 13 with 9684 views

BrianMcCarthy

You should have no regrets at all, Hayes.

You're right - it would have come up.

I'm going to search out the podcast and have a listen, so thanks for flagging it.

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Thought's on this from Les on 16:35 - Oct 13 with 9660 views

Mischievousness or poor editing from the BBC I think.

Thought's on this from Les on 16:38 - Oct 13 with 9625 views

One elephant in the room is our record since he left though.

I suspect history will prove him to be more of a bail out bucket than a iceberg.

Thought's on this from Les on 16:39 - Oct 13 with 9627 views

BrianMcCarthy

One or the other, Bazz.

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Thought's on this from Les on 16:41 - Oct 13 with 9614 views

Monkey_Roots

It is very naughty how they drop the word 'some'... click me!!

It seem to be a reasonable assertion from Les, and he even notes that he made the mistake of deviating from the plan.

Still naused it all up though.

Thought's on this from Les on 16:47 - Oct 13 with 9571 views

However it happened, it is an irresponible headline: either careless or, more likely, someone hoping it'll gather lots of clicks so people can row about it on social media. And of course it's worked.

Bare bones.

Thought's on this from Les on 16:51 - Oct 13 with 9513 views

Wegerles_Stairs

Going by the BBC article, it seems he's complaining about a lack of opportunities, no? As I said, eight years in that role given his experience and lack of success seems a pretty good opportunity.

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Thought's on this from Les on 16:54 - Oct 13 with 9509 views

Hayesender

That's the BBC editing I'm afraid Brian. The only bit I typed is in the title bar

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Thought's on this from Les on 17:10 - Oct 13 with 9433 views