| Closed lists on 08:08 - Sep 20 with 1387 views | felixstowe_jack |
Wrong again Wales still has 40 MPs.
Did you mean the independent electoral commission which has proposed that all constituencies in the UK should have the same number of voters so that they are more democratic.
Closed list are not democratic. ALLl Senedd members should be elected by the people of Wales not appointed by Drakeford's Labour | |
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| Closed lists on 08:30 - Sep 20 with 1376 views | BryanSwan |
I'll tell that to the two English couples who have recently moved into the street. They seem to like it more than enough down here.
Most of Europe has a tourist tax, which works out at a couple of £ at the most. I dont think there will be loads of people reconsidering holidays because of loose change.
Back to the original thread topic though, I think closed lists are a disgrace. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:19 - Sep 20 with 1350 views | Kilkennyjack |
Its Westmonsters fault.
Eddie Butler was right. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:24 - Sep 20 with 1349 views | Kilkennyjack |
They have announced that they are cutting the number of welsh mps.
There is no more debate - its done.
This means less votes for Wales so Wales gets less say.
It further reduces welsh influence at Westminster.
Dress it up as you like - but thats the bottom line.
It shuts down the welsh voice in uk politics.
Independence is the only answer. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:28 - Sep 20 with 1348 views | onehunglow |
You ever spoken to any English family moving into Bethesda,Nefyn or Blaenau Fest. England doesnt have a tourist tax.There is a choice,go somewhere where there is a tax or one where there is not. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:35 - Sep 20 with 1345 views | BryanSwan |
Nope, just the ones who have moved into my street. Thats just my experience, obviously different areas will be different. I'd imagine if i moved into some places i wouldn't get on either.
There will slways be a choice though, i just dont think around £2 or £3 is the deciding factor for 99% of people. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:54 - Sep 20 with 1340 views | onehunglow |
Well you seem a decent sort to me.
You'd be welcomed here alright in the north west | |
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| Closed lists on 10:53 - Sep 20 with 1314 views | Whiterockin |
As a matter of interest how is the £2-£3 calculated and is that the total tax or is it multiplied by person and per night. Who collects the tax and forwards it to the Senedd. If its just a total of £2-£3 surely it would cost more to administer than is received. | | | |
| Closed lists on 11:02 - Sep 20 with 1297 views | builthjack |
You really don't like the Welsh do you. | |
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| Closed lists on 11:23 - Sep 20 with 1284 views | felixstowe_jack |
The number of Welsh MPs is still the same it has not been cut and legislation has not been introduced to parliament let alone passed.
Why do you keep posting mistruths.
Wales has more control over its own decisions than England because there is no devolution in England. Welsh and Scottish MPs can still vote on England only matters in Parliament.
Anyway back to the Original post. Why should closed lists be imposed on the people of Wales? What ever happened to democracy? Perhaps voters should have a referendum on this power grab. | |
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| Closed lists on 12:46 - Sep 20 with 1252 views | onehunglow |
Oh I dunno. Only those that act like it’s Nirvana | |
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| Closed lists on 19:54 - Sep 20 with 1200 views | BryanSwan |
I have to be honest I have no clue how the system works or is applied. But from what I've seen in European countries the tax is usually collected by the hotel, I'd assume we would work on a similar model. | |
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| Closed lists on 23:09 - Sep 20 with 1125 views | majorraglan |
I’ve recently returned from a trip to Majorca where the Balearic Government have imposed a tourist tax - the place was bouncing! The rates vary according to the type of accommodation, a 5 star hotel costs €4 per person per night, a 3 star hotel costs €2 and camping or lodges cost €1, inland tourism is cheaper and kids under 16 are free. After 9 days the rate decreases by 50% and out of season the rate reduces by 75%.
There is no reason why we can’t introduce a sensible tourist tax, but the emphasis needs to be on the word sensible. Politicians have a habit of killing the goose that lays the golden egg!
On the subject of the closed list, I’m against it. [Post edited 20 Sep 2022 23:11]
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| Closed lists on 08:54 - Sep 21 with 1089 views | felixstowe_jack |
If you are a Welsh resident and you have to pay a tourist tax for a holiday in Wales but none if you went on holiday in England would this influence your decision. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:47 - Sep 21 with 1083 views | BryanSwan |
I wouldn't take much notice of that, those are estimates drawn up by the "Welsh" conservatives and we all know the calibre of their representation.
Most European countries usually operate on a rate of €1 per night per room, this would be a sensible option for councils to apply. If they decide to do so at all. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:56 - Sep 21 with 1079 views | Whiterockin |
I think it would depend on the size of my family and where I lived in Wales (travelling distance). Living in Newport/Chepstow would be different to someone living in Swansea. | | | |
| Closed lists on 09:59 - Sep 21 with 1077 views | Whiterockin |
It will be like the 20mph speed limit, local councils will not implement it. Several have already said that they will not enforce the speed limit, the same will be with the tourist tax. | | | |
| Closed lists on 10:02 - Sep 21 with 1073 views | BryanSwan |
They won't put in speed limits and fine offenders, they'll just chuck down a load of speed bumps. The councils know exactly what the people want....
If it were a couple £ a holiday ive no problem with it, any extra money to help improve the communities would be great. | |
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| Closed lists on 10:08 - Sep 21 with 1070 views | Whiterockin |
Can you really see Mumbles Pier to to halfway along Fabian Way being cut to 20mph with speed humps. | | | |
| Closed lists on 10:17 - Sep 21 with 1066 views | BryanSwan |
I was just lamenting how most councils decide to lump a load of speed bumps to stop speeding.
They'd rather do that than use a camera. | |
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| Closed lists on 10:49 - Sep 21 with 1058 views | Whiterockin |
They either put in blanket rules across Wales or don't bother. The regulations, speed limit and tourist tax are not practical. Only 68% (that includes Welsh Nationals visiting another area) of overnight stays are tourists the rest are business stays and people visiting relatives. The pressure that will be put on local councilors whether to implement the rules will be unexceptable.
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Apologies for straying away from the core subject I will leave it there. [Post edited 21 Sep 2022 10:50]
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| Closed lists on 09:46 - Sep 22 with 998 views | Kilkennyjack |
Its a very good thing.
The money must be reinvested in facilities for future tourism.
That builds a better sustainable future for all.
The tax will not be onerous. | |
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| Closed lists on 09:49 - Sep 22 with 998 views | onehunglow |
Tom Beynon on yesterday stating clearly they were a very bad idea and would discourage people from coming to Wales.That is a caravan site owner speaking who makes a living out of tourism.
Anyone involved in the tourism industry on here.? | |
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| Closed lists on 10:39 - Sep 22 with 990 views | Boundy |
Yep , Fabian Way is now 40 not 50 so it's a coming , | |
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