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Another US school shooting 07:14 - May 25 with 14063 viewsLorax

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/texas-primary-school-shooting-leaves-2

At least the current POTUS has spoken out against guns and said something needs to be done.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/texas-shooting-sick-tired-joe-27057409
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Another US school shooting on 03:23 - May 29 with 1494 viewsDr_Parnassus

Well that’s nice for everyone, unfortunately I don’t think I recognise you, you can’t post anything memorable.

I have never spend 24 hours posting on here and don’t think I have ever got angry at a single post in my 20 years as a member of various Swans forums. Sounds like you are either pushing your own fantasy onto me or are getting annoyed about my presence for some reason, maybe I’ve destroyed you in debate in past?

Maybe you are thinking of someone else, or having an episode?

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Another US school shooting on 03:27 - May 29 with 1494 viewsDr_Parnassus

You don’t have to try and get one over on you, you do that to yourself.

If you claim you can’t see the comments then don’t make a judgement would be my advice, get back in that box of yours.

Nobody has said “why bother doing anything”, what has been said is “why bother” doing something that can make the situation worse and certainly won’t make it better.

There is a world of difference. But I don’t expect you to be able to understand that. You are the type of person that thinks if you have suggested something, regardless of it’s implications, then you have done your bit.

All you are doing is trying to justify your own feelings. It’s a bit like the BLM knee, it’s done because you want to feel like you are doing something - the fact you know it does nothing is irrelevant, it serves the selfish need to feel you are doing your bit.

Others are far more practical and realistic and prefer to focus on things that make sense and work rather than just serving myself and my feelings.

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Another US school shooting on 03:30 - May 29 with 1494 viewsDr_Parnassus

I don’t understand the correlation Jon.

Isn’t it like saying those that want to protect kids in schools are also probably happy to kill them in the womb?

One doesn’t relate to the other. One is a deliberate act that will be guaranteed to cause harm to an unborn child - the other is the ownership of an object that will help you protect your born children.

You posted a link on the other thread of a woman stopping an active shooter with her own gun. She had that for that very reason, she saved lives. So it would make sense for her to be pro life.

Make sense?

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Another US school shooting on 08:03 - May 29 with 1476 viewsonehunglow

Try thinking like that if the foetus is produced out of an incestuous liaison.
It is a woman's right,a woman's body.

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Another US school shooting on 11:01 - May 29 with 1433 viewsshingle

Yes when you are worked up and going through a I must answer everyone phase you do occasionally manage to have a few hours break through exhaustion no doubt, but then you go and have nightmares about Trolls if I remember correctly
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Another US school shooting on 11:06 - May 29 with 1420 viewsDr_Parnassus

I will always answer everyone who talks to me, that has been the case for my entire time on here. I’m not ignorant and won’t ignore anyone, nothing exhausting about it.

I love trolls on here, it’s a great sport to make them chase their tails.

The more I strike a chord with my excellent points the more come out of the woodwork, I must be doing something right recently as we have an influx at the moment.

Maybe it’s nerves incase Cooper makes them look even sillier than he already has 🤷‍♂️

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Another US school shooting on 11:49 - May 29 with 1411 views73__73

And try thinking like if you ban guns and a family is murdered as a result of not being able to defend themselves.

It’s an Americans right, not yours.

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Another US school shooting on 12:57 - May 29 with 1382 viewsonehunglow

To ask Americans to give up their RIGHT to hold a Section 1 type firearm seems literally a Human Rights issue.
No more dialogue necessary.

It s hard to give up your gun even if living in a nice Suburb in Denver,Col.

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Another US school shooting on 10:07 - May 30 with 1321 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

It’s like the kids in London who feel they have to carry a knife because all the other kids carry a knife. And the end result is lots of kids being stabbed
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Another US school shooting on 10:17 - May 30 with 1313 viewsWhiterockin

Not only London, there is a knife culture in Swansea.
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Another US school shooting on 11:51 - May 30 with 1272 viewsLorax

Yes there is, it's far worse in Cardiff too. There are guns available in the bigger cities too but at least they are not freely available to buy in the shops.
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Another US school shooting on 14:22 - May 30 with 1256 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Gun Murder statistics.



Click the chart to enlarge.

The information that is coming out about this shooting shows that the various sets of current guidelines were not followed.
The "shooter" had lots of history.
The school broke safety rules.
The Police allowed the shooter to enter the school.
The Police waited too long.
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Another US school shooting on 15:37 - May 30 with 1234 viewsLorax

Yes, there were lots of rules broken, lots of mistakes. Even so, if assault rifles weren't openly on sale people couldn't be mistakenly allowed to buy them so they could be mistakenly allowed entry into a school so they could murder innocent children while the police mistakenly hung around outside.

The greatest mistake of all is being too stupid to see the real problem, guns on sale like Bananas and tv's, like hoodies and trainers.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people BUT people with assault rifles kill a lot of people, a lot more than people with knives.
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Another US school shooting on 18:10 - May 30 with 1208 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Yeah it’s the same concept though. These young people believe that the only way to defend themselves against people with knives is to carry a knife themselves. Stab or be stabbed. Shoot or be shot. It’s a horrific state of affairs really. It’s 2022 for Eru’s sake.

Why do people need to shoot and stab each other? It’s absolutely sick.
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Another US school shooting on 18:34 - May 30 with 1195 viewsDr_Parnassus

It is, but you can understand the thinking.

Lots of people who shout against weapons haven’t been in a situation where their life is generally under threat from one.

I wouldn’t dream of telling a Ukrainian citizen to disarm themselves because guns are bad. Protecting themselves and their families is of upmost importance.

Different scenario but same grounds of thought behind a lot of American cities. The amount of criminals who are looking to harm you is off the charts. 21,500 killings last year via any method. 58 per day.

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Another US school shooting on 07:42 - May 31 with 1149 viewsfelixstowe_jack

30,000 Americans die as a result of guns each year. No guns far fewer deaths.

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Another US school shooting on 08:24 - May 31 with 1136 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

But it’s a bit of a fallacy that guns are needed to protect yourself against other people with guns. In reality if someone pulls a gun on you unexpectedly you’re unlikely to be standing there carrying your gun ready. If you even try to reach for a weapon you’re likely to be shot immediately. The only remotely feasible scenario is if you hear someone breaking into your house.
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Another US school shooting on 08:25 - May 31 with 1130 viewsDr_Parnassus

That’s just one scenario though isn’t it.

The link provided by Jon shows in what sort of a scenario they can be used. Let’s say someone pulls a weapon on your missus for example.

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Another US school shooting on 08:48 - May 31 with 1124 viewsonehunglow

I read extended arguments about this subject and much posturing

It really is simple. Americans LOVE the gun

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Another US school shooting on 09:15 - May 31 with 1108 viewsDr_Parnassus

Depends which Americans you are talking about. Some hate them, some like them, some dislike them but believe they need them.

As long as they don’t hurt anyone that isn’t threatening their life then it doesn’t really matter what their like or dislike toward guns are.

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Another US school shooting on 14:26 - Jun 3 with 1032 viewsWingstandwood



Biden calls for ban on assault weapons and gun purchase age to be raised to 21.

Argus!

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Another US school shooting on 14:40 - Jun 3 with 1023 viewsTheKnowledge

Do you apply the same logic to any man/woman who doesn't want the vaccine, their right their body?

Just curious
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Another US school shooting on 14:42 - Jun 3 with 1021 viewsLorax

Or if you see someone being mugged/attacked by someone with a gun you may react as that woman did, saw it on the news. Those good guys are far fewer than the nuts who commit mass shootings though, it's not a viable argument. The numbers are heavily stacked against.
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Another US school shooting on 14:46 - Jun 3 with 1017 viewsTheKnowledge

Many in the US army are younger than 21 it will never happen
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Another US school shooting on 15:45 - Jun 3 with 996 viewsDr_Parnassus

Stacked against what?

I don’t even think you know what point you are making. What are you advocating for here?

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