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Sutton United (a) Match Thread 17:32 - Mar 3 with 17275 viewsHullDale

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 17:27 - Mar 5 with 3931 viewsD_Alien

Correct

We put on a very good, professional display last Saturday

A bit of an over-reaction after two defeats but we'll survive

RS isn't going anywhere, not now and not in the close season (and i don't mean that in a pejorative way)

Inconsistency is the key theme, which is fully acknowledged and will need to change, but for now, it's just about keeping our heads above water

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 17:30 - Mar 5 with 3912 viewsNewbury_Dale

Out of interest, has anyone seen Brad Wade and/or Brad Kelly play ? And if so, how far are they away from first team football at this level ?
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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 17:32 - Mar 5 with 3904 viewscumbria_dale

Points needed to historically avoid the drop:

20/21 - 46 points
18/19 - 42 points
17/18 - 47 points
16/17 - 47 points
15/16 - 35 points
14/15 - 42 points
13/14 - 50 points

3 wins from our remaining 13 games. Sounds easy!
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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 17:34 - Mar 5 with 3876 viewsHullDale

Table:



Form Table:



I think we'll survive, probably because there are teams worse than us at this moment in time, but the long term effects of our performances need to start being addressed. Home crowds are dropping substantially, the football isn't especially enjoyable (apart from seemingly to opposition managers) and we risk a real sense of apathy amongst the fans and town if we don't start being a bit more exciting.

Big few weeks ahead.
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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 17:34 - Mar 5 with 3875 viewsJames1980

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 17:43 - Mar 5 with 3788 views49thseason

By my reckoning that would give 56 points, probably enough to survive and for that I would be grateful ...but, its cutting things fine and as everyone at or near the bottom gets ever more desperate, the team that doesn't know how to scrap will lose out to the ones that do, look back to last season... can we scrap? There is little evidence, we are, after all, top of the fair play league!
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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 17:53 - Mar 5 with 3686 viewsgriff

You’d better beat Barra. Just saying like.
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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 17:56 - Mar 5 with 3657 viewsHullDale

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 18:09 - Mar 5 with 3508 viewsDaley_Lama

Just catch the ball.

P.s. 2 cracking saves today, but as all keepers know, it’s the clangers people remember

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 18:13 - Mar 5 with 3478 viewsSuddenLad

"You can't be in a dog fight with kittens"

Can't argue with that one.

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 18:20 - Mar 5 with 3438 viewsHullDale

Agreed.

There was a bit of editing there too - would love to know what was actually said.
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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 18:26 - Mar 5 with 3368 viewsnordenblue

A very fair assessment as always from a very level headed and honest man, its just pretty alarming how we're still talking about the same problems that ultimately have rumbled on for far too long, and even before RS arrived.

You don't need to look too far to see why our home crowds have dwindled so much, the last few times I've been it's been mind numbingly boring and negative, very similar to BBMs time when we seem to be bogged down with rigid nonsense tactics and holding certain players back by overcomplicating a simple game.
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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 18:30 - Mar 5 with 3326 viewsRotherhamDale

He can say what he wants but we've finished the game with 5 defenders on the pitch when you could see it wasn't working from about 10 minutes in. Hes as much to blame as any of the players are

Possession with progression.

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 10:53 - Mar 6 with 2411 viewsJames1980

TVOS what's are the stats for playing at a ground/club for the first time?

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 11:29 - Mar 6 with 2361 viewsTVOS1907

In what way?

Tbh, though, James, with three home games coming up in 16 days, I need to devote my times to those over the next week.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 11:55 - Mar 6 with 2303 viewsJames1980

As in the very first time we played at a ground/club was it a win lose or draw.
However understand much more pressing priorities. Looking forward to reading the forthcoming editions.

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 11:58 - Mar 6 with 2294 views1907

The excuse for playing a back five is that O’Keeffe isn’t good enough in a four, he’s not even playing now yet we’re persisting with it. I honestly don’t get it & I’ve said it all season. Football is a very simple game complicated by managers. Off the field activity is no excuse for the dross we are being served up on a weekly basis, granted occasionally we get a positive result but on the whole we are a very poor team. Realistically speaking this is the worst version of us that we have seen since Graham Barrow and we have invested a substantial amount of money in this dreadful squad.
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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 11:58 - Mar 6 with 2292 viewsTVOS1907

If you go onto Soccerbase, you can do the research yourself.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 12:14 - Mar 6 with 2262 viewsJames1980

Of course silly me. I thought there was some magic bit of jiggery pokery you could do with the TVOS spreadsheet. Sorry wasn't expecting you to trawl through teems of results.

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 12:15 - Mar 6 with 2259 viewsTVOS1907

Why do we need 20 points? That will take us to 58, which last season would have seen us finish where we are now. Southend and Grimsby went down with 45 and 43 in 2020/21.

By the way, when BBM took over in 2018/19, we won four of our last six home games, so while I'm not disagreeing with you that the statistics aren't on our side, to say it isn't viable simply isn't true, as what has gone in the previous 100 games doesn't necessarily mean that's what will happen in the next two months.
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When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 12:19 - Mar 6 with 2245 viewsTVOS1907

No, it would involve quite a bit of work for something that's not really relevant or interesting.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 14:18 - Mar 6 with 2075 viewsborodale

Looking at the stats on sky, pretty damning for possession based football. Ironic Pep Guardiola saying this week you can't judge a player by statistics.
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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 17:23 - Mar 9 with 1514 viewsAtThePeake

Sorry 49th but can you explain your '1500 missing fans' comment?

Our highest average attendance in recent years was in the 19/20 season (under BBM of all people) where we were averaging approximately 550 fans more than we are getting this season.

When you factor in the fact we're now playing the likes of Sutton and Harrogate rather than Sunderland and Bolton which massively impacts the away followings, plus the affects of the pandemic, I find it hard to believe that more than a few hundred fans, at an absolute maximum, are keeping away due to the style of play or results. Also worth noting that our average attendance this season, at this point, is higher than it was in our last League Two season. A season in which we won promotion.

Crowds are slowly decreasing over the course of the season, that much is obvious and needs to be addressed, but to say we have 1500 missing fans atm seems to be quite the overstatement.

Tangled up in blue.

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Sutton United (a) Match Thread on 19:04 - Mar 9 with 1389 viewspioneer

The recent form of teams in The bottom half of league two is atrocious. over the last 5 games played the twelve teams combined have won a total of 11 out of 60 games.

7 of those eleven wins are among three teams (ourselves, carlisle and Walsall)

Only one win by teams in the bottom five, and that isnt Barrow.

We have the third best record (2 wins and a draw) behind Carlisle.

Carlisles three wins have all been against bottom half teams. Walsalls 2 wins have both been against top half teams

Have I just tweaked the football gods prior to Saturdays game?

OK I have too much time on my hands.
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