| Colston Statue vandals innocent 18:40 - Jan 5 with 20525 views | Flashberryjack |
Colston vandals are CLEARED: Gleeful BLM activists thank Banksy for his support after they are acquitted of criminal damage over toppling of Edward Colston statue - sparking outrage that jury has given a 'greenlight to political vandalism. | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 19:05 - Jan 5 with 5826 views | felixstowe_jack |
It seems the laws of criminal damage no longer apply in certain parts of the UK. A sad day for democracy and Law and Order.
No one had the right to cause criminal damage because their views are different to Laws democratically passed in Parliament. | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 19:13 - Jan 5 with 5817 views | jack_lord |
Totally disgraceful, doesn't matter what their views are. We still have laws. Imagine if the same people decided to rape a bunch of girls because they thought that was ok in the name of their movement. | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 19:17 - Jan 5 with 5811 views | Boundy |
A precedent has been set so its an open house now for like minded vandals .You disagree with history then crack on and tear it down because it would appear there little or no consequences for your actions. | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 19:34 - Jan 5 with 5791 views | Sirjohnalot |
A Crown Court does not set precedents. No one here was in court to hear the evidence
, so it’s always difficult to comment if you’re not there.
Twelve independent, normal members of the public heard all the evidence and cleared them
based on lawful authority or reasonable excuse.
Like it or not, it is democracy in action. The alternative is a single judge making a decision or simply the police Deciding who’s guilty or not | | | |
| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 19:42 - Jan 5 with 5772 views | Boundy |
I appreciate you weren't there ? but lawful authority or reasonable excuse , I wonder what would they be ? | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 19:46 - Jan 5 with 5758 views | onehunglow |
Were not these glorying in doing this.It is a crime still.
What reasonable excuse would there be.
It show how deeply hypocrite thee cretin are as they wont do jail as a martyr but use the system they hate to set them free.
Perfect hypocrisy.
We are so totally donald ducked and we are all to blame | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 19:47 - Jan 5 with 5759 views | Flashberryjack |
CCTV evidence, they admitted being there, pretty strong case I'd say.
But of course your unbiased opinion is always appreciated. | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 19:48 - Jan 5 with 5748 views | onehunglow |
Did they deny it flash or simply come up with a reasonable excuse. | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 20:12 - Jan 5 with 5714 views | Sirjohnalot |
https://thebristolcable.org/2021/12/colston-heavily-involved-in-britains-most-pr
Have a look at this. Can you imagine living in Bristol,and seeing the statue of this person everyday, knowing he was responsible or involved in the death of so many black people. The plaque on it, did Not mention anything to do with that, it praised him, celebrated his life.
If I was defending, I’d ask the jury to imagine that, especially if you’re black, if you had the opportunity, what would you do ? What was going through their minds, at that time, was it reasonable ? As the defence expert said ‘can you imagine if that was a statute of Hitler ?
On a side point, the Crown employed a QC to prosecute it ! Completely over the top. That’d have costs thousands.
Also goes to illustrate what I was saying about Capital punishment. Jury probably didn’t convict due to feeling sorry for them, a jury would likely not want to send someone to their death [Post edited 5 Jan 2022 20:17]
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 20:13 - Jan 5 with 5712 views | Flashberryjack |
From what I can gather, they were not denying the charge.
"Despite the two-week trial revolving around the criminal damage charge, the defence argued the protestors' actions were justified, at one point urging members of the jury to 'be on the right side of history'"
Throughout the trial, the protestors did not disagree that they were the ones who orchestrated the demise of the statue, but argued their actions were accounted for because the statue itself had been a hate crime against the people of Bristol"
We may be signing this guy on loan.
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 20:31 - Jan 5 with 5680 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
The application of law should never be based on “can you imagine…”. | | | |
| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 20:36 - Jan 5 with 5674 views | controversial_jack |
It's not criminal damage if the article destroyed was offensive, it's called cleaning up. | | | |
| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 20:41 - Jan 5 with 5669 views | Sirjohnalot |
One of the defendants was called Mr Scuse, should change his first name to ‘Reasonable’ | | | |
| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 20:43 - Jan 5 with 5664 views | onehunglow |
Burglary will be next.Like drugs ,they cant control it so why not.
We have utterly lost our way as a society.
Frankly,in some ways,it makes me laugh as it seems there will be massive karma for the next generation . | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 20:53 - Jan 5 with 5644 views | ItchySphincter |
Good. | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 20:55 - Jan 5 with 5647 views | Sirjohnalot |
It certain situations such as reasonable excuse and self defence that’s exactly what it is. You put yourself in the position of the defendant to see if what they did was reasonable. | | | |
| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 20:56 - Jan 5 with 5642 views | Sirjohnalot |
It in no way equates to Burglary and has no bearing on any future trials. | | | |
| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 21:02 - Jan 5 with 5607 views | Flashberryjack |
Sounds like a great idea, problem is ************************ | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 21:08 - Jan 5 with 5598 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Holding historical figures to modern day standards is one of the most stupid things someone can do.
It shows a complete lack of intelligence or understanding of the subject even to the most basic of levels.
There is a vegan wave at the moment and looks like the future may very well be vegan. I can actually envisage the moronic rebels of year 2250 tearing down statues of important people today citing their hand in the death of millions of land animals.
Slavery was unfortunately a way of life back then, it had nothing to do with ''black people'', large parts of the world was run by slavery, be that white, black, brown or otherwise. It was to do with economics and power, not race.
It was a different time and society hadn't developed to the place it has today. | |
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 21:13 - Jan 5 with 5587 views | GruffStephens |
I suppose it’s all ok until it’s your property or your belongings.
Best I can do. | | | |
| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 21:17 - Jan 5 with 5574 views | Gwyn737 |
I feel the same about comedians who get hauled over the coals for jokes they made 20 years ago when the line that was ‘acceptable’ was in a very different place. | | | |
| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 21:21 - Jan 5 with 5551 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Indeed, there are probably things that people do today (maybe many on this very thread) which is part of every day life in the modern day... where as in 200 years time will be unbelievable to many.
I do believe the mass slaughter of billions of animals every year will be amongst that. I think people will look back and wonder how the human race could do such a thing in an age when there really wasn't any need to.
Expect your gravestone to be vandalised if there is any pictures of you eating a burger Gwyn.  [Post edited 5 Jan 2022 21:29]
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| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 21:22 - Jan 5 with 5549 views | Professor |
That’s not true Dr P.
Demand for meat is increasing per capita globally. Despite what vested interests of multinationals behind promoting ‘veganuary’ to sell highly processed foods. | | | |
| Colston Statue vandals innocent on 21:23 - Jan 5 with 5534 views | Lucky_Jack |
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