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Downes, and out 16:58 - Nov 27 with 11084 viewsAndyCole

A waste of a midfield slot behind Grimes

We are so too defensive with Downes anchoring Grimes.

In the 94rd minute today he was our last man defender, wtf.

He had moments previously flunked his lines in a 'Back 4 ', gifting Reading a corner in the dying minutes.

Yet some on here have wanted him to replace our very Best player, captain and leader. Grimesy. Twp as.

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Downes, and out on 16:41 - Jan 15 with 1532 viewsmax936

Downes been different class this half at least, besides the goal.

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Downes, and out on 16:42 - Jan 15 with 1522 viewsBrynmill_Jack

I’m delighted for him

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Downes, and out on 16:43 - Jan 15 with 1520 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Downes and in!!!!!

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Downes, and out on 17:22 - Jan 15 with 1469 viewsAndyCole

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Fortunately for us, Downes has been tuned in to this thread.

2nd half he was a different player, played alongside Grimesy in an attacking high pivot. A joy to behold, in so many ways.

The concern is that when we were up against it, his go-to position is to drop way too deep, heroically defending our defence with a desperate lunge or three.

Let's hope Grimesy continues to nurture and develop this fine young talent to continue to watch the tapes, tune in to Swansea Independent for the objective, candid constructive critique and kick on. The formula is working, it seems.

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Downes, and out on 20:34 - Jan 15 with 1398 viewsmagicdaps10

It was hopefully going to work and this season was about transition and building a foundation after all the upheavel during the summer.

That last bit that you type is so refreshing to read, a slight chunk of light that you can see that Martin, staff and players are capable to adapt and make progress.

Despite the angle to heap praise on Grimes for Downes good performance, your post was a step in the right direction towards a bit of positivity.

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Downes, and out on 22:50 - Jan 15 with 1339 viewsBrynmill_Jack

You’re very polite fair play. Grimes was at his useless mediocre best and one shot aside contributed little.

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Downes, and out on 23:53 - Jan 15 with 1309 viewsmagicdaps10

I try.

I don't think the original post has aged well, Downes is getting a lot of praise and the poster takes every attempt to praise Matt Grimes! Grimes needs to up his game s lot more this season and in comparison to Downes in performance, non comparable!

I think the original post is more a dig aimed at Martin rather than Downes as he was Martin's marquee signing.

I think if any questions were to be asked for any of our midfielders, Grimes woukd be the one doing more answering than any other this season aswell as last season.

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Downes, and out on 09:57 - Jan 16 with 1237 viewsonehunglow

We really truly do not need Grimes.

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Downes, and out on 10:54 - Jan 16 with 1223 viewsmagicdaps10

All I can say, if a post questioning Downes as got to 5 pages then one with Grimes should be around 15 at the same stage as this one.

Grimes has under performed so badly for the last few seasons, under Potter he was superb and looked like he would make the step up. There is a player in there but the clock is ticking for Grimes, glad he signed his contract because I know what he can do but with Downes here, wouldn't have worried too much if he had gone.

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Downes, and out on 11:00 - Jan 16 with 1212 viewsDr_Parnassus

Patience.

He’s in a transitional few seasons.
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Downes, and out on 11:03 - Jan 16 with 1204 viewsonehunglow

Downes is streets ahead of Grimes in every way.
He would have been,had he been with us last season.
A player messed about by Martin ,arguably our most crucial player and the last to be subbed .

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Downes, and out on 11:19 - Jan 16 with 1201 viewsmagicdaps10

Don't forget that Downes is only 22 and playing in a division higher. People are starting to really take note on Downes, Martin can't be doing to bad with him considering the admiring looks and comments coming his way.

He is a superb player and will only get better and Martin has a stly to get a player perform.... Ask Piroe, he responded to it with a little groan But it's not worked with Obefami who just sulked and threw his toys out of the pram! Downes has been dealt similar but it shows a superb character in the way he has just got on with it, no fuss and is just going down the route and just wanting to play.

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Downes, and out on 17:06 - Jan 16 with 1155 viewsYouBackJastard

Are we just going to endlessly rotate between Grimes and Downes as scapegoats depending on who’s scored the latest goal? Both are fine top top end Championship midfielders with easily enough potential to break that Prem barrier.
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Downes, and out on 17:48 - Jan 16 with 1120 viewspencoedjack

Certainly not.

Downes is a cracking player.

A lot of drivel written by the OP
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Downes, and out on 21:47 - Jan 16 with 1080 viewsAndyCole

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Oh dear, as predicted the twps (jealously) respond to the intelligent, informed poster instead of the intelligent post.

Nil points, for the many. Bar the odd exception. For the very first time, Downes' shackles came off in the 2nd half. He did very little of his usual detrimental stuff.

If anybody engaged the brain to read, think, digest and respond accordingly instead of the shallow bile cheaply hurled, they would see how Downes was Unleashed of the shackles and kicked on. No doubt nurtured by Capt. Grimesy to follow his lead, into the final third. Gone was the superfluous tiki taka with no end product.

It was a joy to behold, to see Grimesy and then (less assuredly) Downesy play in the red zone. And make the difference some us have been crying out for, for far too long.

Grimesy Unleashed (time to dig out that thread....), and now Downes Unleashed.......

The concern is that we are capable of playing on the front foot from the off, not just when we're Downs and out, chasing a game, as per. Opponents quickly pick us off, then defend, knowing we mostly just tiki taka - back, forth, sideways and back again.


For me, the key to this is to secure a solid, go-fwd ball-playing CH. This will allow Downes to kick on, not worry about playing some CDM/CH hybrid and stymie our go-fwd.

For me, that needle in the haystack is:

Harry Darling.

Fisher - Darling - Grimes-Downes - Ntcham-Pato - Piroe


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Downes, and out on 22:24 - Jan 16 with 1057 viewsChief

Pato?

Are you sure?

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Downes, and out on 22:28 - Jan 16 with 1054 viewsAndyCole

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We live in hope Chief.

One of our best AMs in some time, coulda woulda made the difference last term with Piroe up top. Let's hope he and we recover from today's media frenzy.

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Downes, and out on 09:38 - Jan 17 with 983 viewsonehunglow

Fair cplay moment but think MRtin now realises how good a player is Flynn

He is an absolute beast of a player and for him to get his first goal warmed my cockles.
Hopefully, Russ will never again waste him at centre half .
He is no central defender but a complete midfielder and leader

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Downes, and out on 18:22 - Feb 19 with 831 viewsAndyCole

Time for a bit of balance with all the deflection this eve.

Downs was shown up for being the L1 cast off he is.

Grimes had to cover for both him and calamitous Cabango. In so many ways.

Even Leon would have struggled to juggle, at his pomp.

The way in which the Grimes haters have latched on to Downs is beyond laughable and indicative of their lack of footballing intelligence.

Winstone the stand out who famously penned ' I must be missing something', and the twp sheeple followed, like BJ. Clearly never kicked a ball.

Downs is improving under Grimes' tutelage - but not to the extent the twps claim, not by a long shot unfortunately - hence today's beasting.
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Downes, and out on 18:41 - Feb 19 with 807 viewsonehunglow

Couldn't disagree with you more.

Still,have a noson llawen

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Downes, and out on 07:35 - Feb 20 with 759 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Have you sought psychiatric treatment for your narcissism? If not you really should.

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