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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. 23:50 - Aug 12 with 50714 viewsProfessor

Look at the mess in the American South where vaccination rates are low. Please,
If you have not -get vaccinated

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/12/mississippi-covid-surge-strainin
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 09:44 - Nov 4 with 1194 viewsProfessor

Exactly
Vaccines work. Vaccines make adults.

Perhaps some on this forum should spend time in Sub Saharan Africa and see the impact of vaccines have on reducing infant mortality in areas fortunate to get vaccine programmes. On how Evil Bill is supporting this.

Or perhaps watching children die of dehydration as a complication of diarrhoea is their thing?
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 10:14 - Nov 4 with 1179 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Well Bill wouldn’t be able to do all this without a lot of help. Of course the original Paul McCartney before he faked his own death and was replaced by a left handed bassist that looked and sounded just like him spent all his Beatles money on building Bill Gates his secret underground lair. And if it wasn’t for the aliens in Area 51 working in secret with the world economic forum to use the thermite produced in the wreckage of 9/11 to create a mind control drug to put in the vaccines to make people comply then Bill Gates would never have been able to achieve whatever it was he set out to achieve and inflict his misery all across this flat Earth.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 10:25 - Nov 4 with 1169 viewsProfessor

How is that all true?

Better tell Stump!
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 10:38 - Nov 4 with 1150 viewsRonaldStump

So they can vaccinate them but they can't feed them?
How many die of starvation a day?

(He She Him)

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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 10:40 - Nov 4 with 1144 viewsRonaldStump

Always had you down as a conspiracy theorist in disguise

(He She Him)

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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 10:49 - Nov 4 with 1149 viewsProfessor

Starvation-not really. Unless extreme crop failure, natural disaster or war. The Ethiopian famine was a political act by the Derg on Tigray.

Malnutrition remains an issue, but generally aid in the last 20 years has focussed on improvements in farming, reducing soil erosion etc. It's actually where a lot of Gates foundation money now goes. Disease from diarrheoal disease has been reduced substantially by clean water provision. Much still to do, but the thought that aid is now sackloads of grain is an outdated one.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 14:59 - Nov 4 with 1110 viewsA_Fans_Dad

All of that BLATHER to prove you really don't understand.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 15:16 - Nov 4 with 1102 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Perhaps you have no explanation for why more vaccinated people/100,000 are getting infected with the virus.
I find it very difficult to take your arguments seriously when you ignore Government published data that was even published in the media.

But that is OK, I very much expect the authorities to change the way that they are reporting as they are giving the public way too much information.

No I haven't forgotten all your years in the business and I understand how biased it has made you, it is to be expected, it is your life's work, I am positive I would be the same, or worse if I was in your shoes.
We both know that some Vaccines have initially failed spectacularly in the past.

No I am not ignoring that Vaccines have saved lives, it is the cost in comparison to all the previous life saving vaccines that is the concern and lack of medication when they don't work.

"increasing doubt over any evidence of efficacy" add "over time" and it describes the mRNA vaccines perfectly.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 15:44 - Nov 4 with 1100 viewsScotia

More vaccinated people per 100,000 population are getting infected because there is more of them.

The unvaccinated group are too small to draw any logical conclusion from. The ratio of infection per 100,000 is meaningless in such a small group if you are trying to compare the results to much larger groups.

Theres not a few more than them, the group isn't 50% bigger (you may be on to something then) it is ten times bigger.

Do you seriouly think you can compare a sample size of (at most) 3 million, with a sample size of 33 million and compare those two groups to infections per 100,000 in a population of 66 million?

I honestly think it is only included in the published stats for vaccinated / unvaccinated is becasue that ratio is used elsewhere in those stats. It's meaningless for such a minority.

You may have done an engineering apprenticeship and your job title may have had engineering in it. But you have very little traditional STEM knowledge.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 16:19 - Nov 4 with 1078 viewsA_Fans_Dad

OK.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 17:29 - Nov 4 with 1071 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Get vaccinated you know it makes sense.

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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 18:35 - Nov 4 with 1064 viewsCatullus

Your second paragraph is admitting the government are giving out a lot of information, information that is presumably correct in your opinion? That is what it sounds like.

I though part of the argument had been that they were lying to all of us from the very beginning and that we cannot believe the government controlled MSM.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 18:46 - Nov 4 with 1049 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Exactly, they made a mistake and immediately got pounced on by another Gov. department.
The fear being that they gave bullets for anti-vaxxers to fire in their guns.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 20:55 - Nov 4 with 1044 viewshowenjack

Tell that to these people..................

https://thehighwire.com/videos/live-in-d-c-expert-panel-on-medical-mandates-vacc
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 21:28 - Nov 4 with 1020 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Nobody on here believes in any of those stories, they are all made up by anti-vaxxers.
But we know differently.

Just like these.

https://www.c19vaxreactions.com/
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 21:37 - Nov 4 with 1022 viewsGwyn737

4 billion COVID vaccinations have been administered. Incredible.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 22:23 - Nov 4 with 1005 viewscontroversial_jack

Here's the latest

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/thousands-of-fully-vaxxed-over-70-s-have-died-in-the-l
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 06:46 - Nov 5 with 984 viewsScotia

Just 2000 of the most vulnerable out of a population of millions. Despite there being very few restrictions.

Aren't the vaccines brilliant?
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 06:49 - Nov 5 with 982 viewsScotia

They claim to be a group of people injured by the vaccine?

One of the first stories opens with the sentence

"I have not had a vaccine partly because I have severe chemical reactions to many drugs"

More complete BS.

Edit.

I also like this link inviting people to submit their "real" story, of course they aren't made up though and you and howen know differently.

https://www.c19vaxreactions.com/connect.html

You've put your life in these peoples hands. You really must have problems.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 09:30 - Nov 5 with 951 viewscontroversial_jack

2,000 in England alone. Aren't the most vulnerable the ones who need protection the most? They didn't get it. Not one vaccinated person should die. The vaccines , brilliant, no, better than not having one, yes.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 09:52 - Nov 5 with 945 viewsScotia

But they are getting the most protection and they are seeing the most benefit becasue they are the most vulnerable. I wonder how many died of flu over the same period despite receiving the flu vaccine?

Even the over 80's see a drastic reduction in death despite, probably, having the most impact from waning vaccine immunity.

This is the most important part of that article is.

"The data shows the death rate was far higher among those who did not have a jab when looked at proportionately."

No vaccine, ever, will prevent everyone dying. That is a pretty stupid comment.

I honestly think that when all things are considered, such as the pace of development, efficacy, distribuiton, lives saved and economic recovery the vaccines are the greatest development in medical history.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 10:39 - Nov 5 with 940 viewsProfessor

Curious there is no information about who is running this, or other similar sites.
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 10:59 - Nov 5 with 934 viewsScotia

I've submitted my true story. I wonder if it gets published?
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 11:53 - Nov 5 with 920 viewscontroversial_jack

2,000 ppl who have been vaccinated have died. That's a very high failure rate
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If you have any doubts about vaccination…. on 12:01 - Nov 5 with 919 viewsScotia

Nearly 500 people who have died have come from just 5% of the population who haven't been vaccinated.

Just four times that number come from the remaining 95%.

This is about the 10th time we've been through this exact discussion.

I'm sorry to dissapoint you but thousands of lives are being saved every week by the vaccines alone. Do you have an alternative?
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