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I'm guessing the script will be 100% "poor little Rochdale". Never mind the struggles of other clubs, NOBODY will have had it as bad as "poor little Rochdale". We can't compete with anyone, ever, because we are "poor little Rochdale". Being in 4 consecutive relegation dogfights in League One will be repeated as "historic success". Ambition and positivity will not be mentioned as those present salute each others abilities. Add lashings of extra "poor little Rochdale" for good measure.
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Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 20:48 - Mar 11 with 3644 views
Myself, the problems we have today have existed for years, through various regimes. The lack of focus and inability to ensure problems are not only addressed, but infrastructure being implemented to prevent them occurring, has been an issue throughout. Far too much is reactionary - see the pitch issues down the years, see the catering, see the bloody kits; for the club to progress we have always got to look at ways we could be better and actually admit we need to be. From there comes stronger planning and structures - and no that doesn’t mean at levels that require new staff or loads of new players, but getting the basics right.
This messageboard has hundreds of examples of where we have fallen short since the turn of the century, but how many people throughout that time ever said “we should have done things better”, then actually ensured that it was better?
The above is not necessarily the best method, but it’s the easiest starting point.
Ah yes the plan. Didn't Graham Rawlinson end his piece last night saying they had a plan. But at no point during the previous 3 hours did we learn what it was?
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Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 08:25 - Mar 12 with 3068 views
Ah thats because you as just a mere fan , cannot understand The Plan since you cannot comprehend "the Context" . The Plan and The Context go together and "those in the footballing world" know much better. You just fund The Plan , dont worry yourself about it. We know what we are doing.... I'm in Charge LOL
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Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 10:22 - Mar 12 with 2957 views
That last paragraph is definitely spot on. The same couple of thousand fans are expected to keep the club afloat and while we do, the directors work is done. If we withdraw our wallets then it's the fans fault.
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Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 21:58 - Mar 12 with 2722 views
A long reflection from Wednesday night's forum before posting from me. In no particular order:
1. The true loss of Chris Dunphy is now clear. In 27 months, we have changed as a culture so much from being a stable club - the envy of the lower divisions - to an unstable, volatile body. In losing Bill Goodwin, Keith Hill and Chris Beech is quick succession the further losses of John Smallwood and Andrew Kilpatrick are big blows. If you've watched Dale in the last 15 years those 5 men have all been a large part of the journey.
2. Andrew Kelly is unwell and chairman in name only. You cannot fault or question the man's contribution but a chairman in a football club is an active role. I hope he gets well soon but aged 77 he is not going to be the long term solution.
3. It wasn't really explained why Andrew Kilpatrick stepped down as chair. He is still the biggest shareholder and so that void leaves a question. We are on our third chairman in 27 months and the "interim" nature of Andrew Kelly would make you would believe there is a 4th in the short term.
4. David Bottomley has a lot of questions to answer. The mysterious BBM contract extension being the most obvious one but there are questions on the structuring of the club, the spending of money we don't have and the lack of transparency of what has gone on. The telling point for me was when he said "we all care" - everyone who follows Rochdale cares about this football club in some way shape or form. The crocodile tears were unpleasant to witness.
5. BBM comes over well but needs help. He talks about the players needing "forgiveness". I can't imagine him giving the Hill / Coleman style kick up the butt some players need. He came across well and was open on the results. Mentioning that we won't be able to recruit 25 -27 year olds tells you that we are broke. I do wonder how he would do in a more stable off the field environment.
6. We are League 2 bound and have a huge rebuilding job over the next 2 seasons to stablise.
7. There is no plan for being League 2 bound. At the end Graham Rawlinson talks about throwing "as much as possible" the playing budget. We are doing that now. We have a lot of loan players and next year need to recruit 8+ players to have a competitive squad.
8. 1,000 people watched the broadcast. That really encouraged me; (unless they were all bury fans.)
9. There is a broken link between fans and club. The supporters panel point today is proof. Where is the Trust? Why are the club not using the Trust? No one knows.
10. Dan Altman and Emre Marcelli didn't want to be part of that Group. Why?
11. The person who hosted it (sorry - don't know his name) was good and got through a lot. The length of the broadcast was well intended but could have been used much better by the club.
12. Where is the youth on the shareholding Board - by my reckoning there is no one under the age of 50 in the thought process for leadership and there is no Board succession planning. I winced when I heard a mention of us "giving it a go in League 1 next year" and aspirations of the Championship. If you see the Wycombe season this term that is what would happen to us and we have one tenth of the stability Wycombe have right now.
13. I really don't know where we will be a year from now. Hopefully not in the bottom 6 of League 2 fighting for our lives. I remember that; its not great.
All IMO. Hard times ahead I feel.
George Bernard Shaw had it right:
"He who can does; he who cannot, teaches."
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Scrolling through looking for another comment, saw this one, I agree 49th. When the question was asked basically saying why hasn't BBM been sacked it was a perfect opportunity, if it had happened recently, for DB to say. We believe in Brian blah blah blah, in fact we have so much faith in our management team I'm pleased to say he has signed a one year contract extension till May 2022. Would it have gone down well probably not, but it would have gone down a darn sight/site better than how it actually got announced.
'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
As a goldbond agent since 2004 I sincerely hope that they do consider reinstating doorstep collecting. As it may rebuild the community contact with the club that has undoubtedly been lost by ending the rounds. It is obvious that something needed to be done especially when in lockdown, but it was the way it was done that hurt, especially as we found out by social media.
Most of my customers didn’t attend games and to my elderly customers I was the only person that a few had direct contact with on a regular basis. This what needs to be reinstated as when I explained that it was going to be done by DD and it was a totally safe way of maintaining your membership, not one customer wanted to change and many said they would reinstate membership if I returned to the walk.
I’m not naive enough to think that people haven’t changed their minds and changed to DD but I imagine the majority of people, especially the elderly are sceptical about DD and preferred to pay to a collector. Plus some didn’t like how the whole scenario was carried out in the first place.
But most of all I enjoyed doing it, I wouldn’t have done 16 years if I didn’t.
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Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 10:34 - Mar 24 with 1776 views
Two weeks on and still no proper clarification on BBM's contract extension, the Altman/Marcelli situation, or the questions submitted about the CEO at the forum that weren't asked.
What was it they said about the standards they aspire to again?
Some people within the club are more than happy to respond to e-mails in a very constructive way but obviously can't disclose things that the club hasn't announced publicly. With such a small board and some members of it being communicative, it does narrow down where the current communication issue lies.
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