The plane over the Etihad on 15:48 - Jun 23 with 1599 views | Sirjohnalot | I accept this without reservation, it’s equally as disgusting and abhorrent. There’s always going to be exceptions that prove the rule, my point was as an overall picture, white people, being in the majority normally, do not suffer the same. May I ask FJ if his awful experiences are limited to a small area as opposed to more widespread ? That’s the difference | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 15:49 - Jun 23 with 1594 views | Lohengrin | I like them both, and I’m the final arbiter. So there. Besides, squabbling on here isn’t the real world, there’s no connection at all. Look at me and Clase, we got on in person like a house on fire, those two would be no different I’m sure. | |
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The plane over the Etihad on 15:54 - Jun 23 with 1590 views | Lohengrin | Where we are not in the majority roles tend to flip and there’s no dog bites with quite the enthusiasm of the under dog. | |
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The plane over the Etihad on 15:56 - Jun 23 with 1588 views | londonlisa2001 | Really.? You generally make me roll my eyes. Everyone can read what you wrote - I’m not repeating myself. | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 15:59 - Jun 23 with 1577 views | Lohengrin | Good luck on the new path you’re setting. I mean that genuinely too, you’ll need it. | |
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The plane over the Etihad on 16:04 - Jun 23 with 1569 views | londonlisa2001 | As I said in the earlier post, equating discrimination by individuals or a group of individuals with systemic discrimination is completely missing the point. All discrimination is wrong and abhorrent. But inbuilt discrimination within the very structures of society are a totally different matter. No white person anywhere in the UK suffers that. The underdog is still the underdog wherever you may live in this country. | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 16:07 - Jun 23 with 1564 views | londonlisa2001 | I’m not setting any new path. Your angle of sight is just changing as you get sucked in by nonsense. When you start quoting, as you have in the last few days, bullsh*t propaganda straight from the Putin bot farm, you need to take a breath and reassess. | | | |
The plane over the Etihad (n/t) on 16:12 - Jun 23 with 1545 views | chad | Well Sir J it seems your post is beyond reproach, the vox pop. However Loh has already pointed out one very obvious flaw. White people are targeted due to their colour. Whilst of course the underlying issue is very real, I would also make the following comments... Your initial point how could you possifbly know that. You are surely claiming knowledge that you cannot possibly own. And as far as the US, Should we rip this country apart because of things that happened there. Or deal with our own problems, without dismantling our social fabric Supporting geographic areas that have suffered atrocities is different from trying to heal internal racial division with division. [Post edited 23 Jun 2020 16:38]
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The plane over the Etihad on 16:17 - Jun 23 with 1533 views | chad | Of course they can read what I wrote, and your false allegations | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 16:18 - Jun 23 with 1528 views | Lohengrin | ” But inbuilt discrimination within the very structures of society are a totally different matter. No white person anywhere in the UK suffers that.” When young working class kids from Trallwn and Penlan have work and university quotas set aside for them get back to me and we can examine your proposition. | |
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The plane over the Etihad on 16:20 - Jun 23 with 1524 views | Treforys_Jack | No worries, have a good day. | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 16:22 - Jun 23 with 1515 views | chad | There you go with your absolutes, I think a few women may disagree with you there Lisa, especially the sex and domestic slaves. And a few other abused girls. | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 16:22 - Jun 23 with 1515 views | NotLoyal | Maybe you answered your own question, you actually recall the black woman, it’s not at all that you are racist it’s that you remember the situation compared to all the other people I’m sure you remember and helped throughout your life. I think it’s a matter of truth that when we see a black person, or any other ethnic minority we immediately profile them unconsciously as what we see. We recall them as per their ethnic origin, which isn’t something we do to people of our own colour ( if you are white ) Although I doubt even the protestors know what they are shouting about if they had to explain it. | |
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The plane over the Etihad on 16:30 - Jun 23 with 1493 views | Nortbankboy | Thank God we haven't got fans like that. It would so embarrassing | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 16:32 - Jun 23 with 1492 views | Treforys_Jack | Fantastic post | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 16:52 - Jun 23 with 1458 views | Humpty | Excellent post but wasted unfortunately. The people who think shouting white lives matter is ok are either too thick to realise why it's wrong or understand fully but want to anyway. [Post edited 23 Jun 2020 16:56]
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The plane over the Etihad on 16:53 - Jun 23 with 1461 views | londonlisa2001 | University quotas: University of Oxford Annual Admissions Report May 2020 “Those from the most deprived areas have increased from 8.6% to 12.2% and those from areas with low progressions rates to university from 10.8% to 14%. In an effort to accelerate the pace of change, last year we announced three initiatives to help us to realize our ambition of ensuring that in four years’ time 25% of British undergraduates admitted to Oxford would be from low-income backgrounds. We increased the size of our UNIQ Summer School by 50%, to 1,350 students, last summer. The first cohort of students admitted via our Opportunity Oxford bridging programme will begin this September, and we will begin the roll-out of Foundation Oxford next year. It is too soon to see the impact of these initiatives on the figures presented here.“ Work Quotas: “ Based on the review’s findings, the BBC’s Executive Board has accepted a range of recommendations that are designed to further increase the socio-economic diversity of the BBC workforce, and are looking into the viability of introducing a career mobility programme throughout the BBC to promote high performing talent. Other recommendations include: Aiming to provide at least 70 percent of places on apprenticeships, traineeships, internships and work experience for people from lower socio-economic backgrounds”. Knock yourself out. And no one has said that kids don’t have obstacles and face hardship. It’s just that on top of that, black kids have an extra thing to deal with. Equal opportunity for people based on socio-economic diversity is one of the biggest issues in FTSE350 recruitment programmes at the moment. It’s a huge area with masses being done and there is a social mobility employers index published, which is a genuine ‘target’ for employers to do well in (annual reports focus on the issue in addition to other protected characteristics). You are very out of date if you think it’s all about black kids. | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 16:56 - Jun 23 with 1456 views | londonlisa2001 | We are talking about discrimination based on colour. The fact that different discriminations also exist is not relevant to the discussion. Do try at least to keep up. | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 17:04 - Jun 23 with 1442 views | Arthur_from_OTB | You claim you know more about what black people are complaining about than they know themselves. Award yourself minus 100 virtue signalling points and surrender yourself to the thought police immediately. You need to be re-educated. If you don’t know notice that white people are white you need to get your eyes tested. You are probably blind | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 17:13 - Jun 23 with 1433 views | jack247 | The banner. The one those planks from Burnley flew over the Etihad. No need to overthink it. | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 17:16 - Jun 23 with 1428 views | NotLoyal | I have no political leaning or agenda. This is how I see it, if you don’t get it you don’t get it. If you do you do. Personally I couldn’t give a fck. But your reply tells me numerous nerves have been touched. Leave the insults out of it though, that’s not a good place to go. | |
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The plane over the Etihad on 17:41 - Jun 23 with 1377 views | chad | Do at least try to remember what you post... “All discrimination is wrong and abhorrent. But inbuilt discrimination within the very structures of society are a totally different matter. No white person anywhere in the UK suffers that. The underdog is still the underdog wherever you may live in this country” Perhaps under Lisalaw it is ok for you to widen the discussion so long as no one responds to disprove your point? At which point they are out of bounds Gotcha, as I thought ;) Ever played the game of cups? | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 17:46 - Jun 23 with 1372 views | chad | Sir J may I ask. In the legal profession would it not be bad form to present generalisation and unknowns as absolutes, as you did initially? | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 18:01 - Jun 23 with 1348 views | londonlisa2001 | We are talking about discrimination on grounds of colour. The whole thread is about discrimination on grounds of colour. It’s about someone flying a plane saying ‘white lives matter’ which sort of gives it away. My use of the word ‘all’ was talking about all forms of discrimination on grounds of colour - it was a continuation of the point being made that some Asian people are discriminating against FieryJack in Bradford, Lohengrin drawing attention to it and also SirJohn responding. At no point was anyone talking about a different form of discrimination. You will notice the description ‘white’ in my point ‘no white person ....suffers that’ - again, an indication that we are still talking about colour. Chad, the ‘gotcha’ bit is as profoundly sad as it is wrong. It just makes you seem ridiculous. | | | |
The plane over the Etihad on 18:38 - Jun 23 with 1305 views | Lohengrin | Are you able to break that down by racial percentage? | |
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