| USA 16:13 - Apr 18 with 8949 views | Bicester_North |
Is the media over exaggerating about how mental it is over there or is it really that messed up?
There doesn’t seem to be anyone really in control, with Trump seemingly urging people to get out and protest in groups against some state governors, some turning up armed etc. Their whole government set up and massive political division seems to have been exposed badly by the virus situation. Mad place.
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| USA on 01:38 - Apr 20 with 1515 views | strikerace |
I live in the US also, and this is 100% accurate. The liberal slanting media outlets, such as CNN/MSNBC/HuffPo, are rediculous and over blowing this because they hate Trump. I live in Texas, and we have had no issues really. If schools and jobs weren't closed down, you would think nothing is wrong. Great weather, people jogging, etc. | | | |
| USA on 08:29 - Apr 20 with 1458 views | Mr_Happy |
The reason you have no issues is because everything is closed down (are you really this dumb?) restricting the spread, watch this video and see how distancing works.
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| USA (n/t) on 09:00 - Apr 20 with 1441 views | DellHero |
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| USA (n/t) on 09:05 - Apr 20 with 1436 views | DellHero |
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| USA on 09:15 - Apr 20 with 1430 views | Mr_Happy |
'This despite many, many areas not having a problem'
That's because of the lockdown, you're like some fool stood out in the rain with an umbrella claiming it's not raining because you're not getting wet. | |
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| USA on 10:13 - Apr 20 with 1404 views | DorsetIan |
Interesting post and good to hear the other side from someone living there.
Your point seems to be that there is a reasonable argument that the lockdown can't be justified in many states, where they have had very few cases, and sure nearly half of all US deaths have been in New York.
But I my Dorset region in a population of 375,000 there have been about 500 cases and 100 deaths, so very very low, but I don't get any sense that people here are calling to be 'liberated' or are ignoring the lockdown.
Is is that people in the US just don't trust the federal government and they see Trump as being or their side in that?
And on a personal level, do you not worry that if the lockdown is lifted too soon, the thing will just reappear? | |
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| USA on 10:48 - Apr 20 with 1382 views | Mr_Happy |
It's exactly what happened in several US cities after the Spanish flu pandemic, some people need a history lesson.
It's also worth noting Spanish flu had a transference rate of 2 Covid 19 has one of three making it much more of a threat. | |
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| USA on 11:07 - Apr 20 with 1369 views | DorsetIan |
Comparisons with Spanish Flu very interesting. This was useful and seemingly mainly factual and not trying to push one agenda or another.
https://www.biospace.com/article/compare-1918-spanish-influenza-pandemic-versus-
One of the issues I have in listening to what Trump says is that he is super optimistic about everything. Everything either is great or going to be great. I can understand that optimism is an attractive quality in a person and that you need a bit of optimism to get things done and to push through when times are difficult. However, I don't look to a pathologically optimistic person to find out what the truth is. | |
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| USA on 11:33 - Apr 20 with 1358 views | Occasional_Showers |
No “Ian”, you go on YouTube and watch your David Ike playlist.  | |
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| USA on 12:20 - Apr 20 with 1344 views | DorsetIan |
Thanks for that, Ignatius. Another grown up contribution to a TUI discussion. | |
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| USA on 15:17 - Apr 20 with 1287 views | Mr_Happy |
The yank trolls on the comments section can't even spell his name right. | |
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| USA on 23:48 - Apr 21 with 1218 views | washington_saint |
It is not just because things are locked down that areas don;t have an issue.
It seems that the West Coast has a milder form of the virus (with the more aggressive strain coming from Europe into the East COast via New York).
Various studies have already taken place out here that shows, for example, in LA County and San Jose (not small areas) that based on antibody testing the true rate of infection is between 50 and 80 times higher than is being reported in official figures.
Although this is very virulent, the same vulnerable people are at risk during flu season - and whole economies do not close down each year to focus on this.
The hysteria knows no bounds: the MSM here decried North Carolina protests today saying it was the worst day of deaths in the State for CV today. They had 34 deaths attributed to CV and most had pre-existing conditions. To put this into context, 93 people per day died in car accidents (and this was in 2009) | | | |
| USA on 05:34 - Apr 22 with 1191 views | Mushty |
But if you put all car drivers in lock-down you wouldn't have '93 deaths per day' in vehicle accidents.
Relax the rules and allow Americans to start moving around again and watch the aggressive strain in the East finds its way across the States to the 'mild' West. It's a tough call but until a vaccine is available....... | | | |
| USA on 07:07 - Apr 22 with 1179 views | grumpy |
Over 45000 Deaths,when are you going to wake up over there? | | | |
| USA on 09:12 - Apr 22 with 1148 views | Mr_Happy |
Super intelligent Trump supporters.
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| USA on 09:39 - Apr 22 with 1134 views | kernow |
Who's Brian Moran?
Is he a NFL celeb? | | | |
| USA on 10:23 - Apr 22 with 1111 views | Mr_Happy |
Trump is actively getting his supporters to commit suicide. | |
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| USA on 13:00 - Apr 22 with 1080 views | dirk_doone |
We've got coronavirus deniers in the UK too, who claim these deaths are the result of other causes when the simple facts show there are 8,000 deaths per week more in England & Wales now than the average for this time of year, in spite of the fact there is less traffic on the roads. | |
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| USA on 13:03 - Apr 22 with 1075 views | Mr_Happy |
That and the flu season is over. | |
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| USA on 13:12 - Apr 22 with 1065 views | dirk_doone |
Yes. and leaving party politics aside, the lockdown is saving a lot of lives and the more seriously people take the threat of coronavirus, the more lives will be saved..
Trump's public attitude is not helping but, apparently in private, he is terrified of catching it and has taken extreme measures inside the White House to make sure he doesn't. | |
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| USA on 13:52 - Apr 22 with 1036 views | washington_saint |
So how are you all going to pay for this lockdown that is destroying the economy? How are you gong to address the mental health issues from an extended lockdown? And the extra suicides and domestic abuse?
As for the poster who said that "if you take the cars off the road there would not be 93 deaths a day in NC". Very true - why don't we all live in a plastic bubble and never leave. You know, if we leave the bubble there might be a chance we get sick or have an accident.
Some context is required to this crisis - not the mass outpouring of hysteria.
Yes it's bad - Sweden appears to have had the right approach. Leave it up to individuals to determine what risk they are comfortable with.
Lockdowns have not prevented the care homes having major issues. | | | |
| USA on 14:34 - Apr 22 with 1010 views | Occasional_Showers |
Only individuals who can afford not to work have a choice. In the UK we are lucky we have a people’s Conservative landslide majority government who led the way and furloughed the workforce. In the US of A you have the choice to work and risk your health or earn no money and die of poverty. I’m thankful to live in the UK. The whinging left wing morons over here have a lot to be grateful to Boris for, but the ungrateful pricks will never realise they’ve never had it so good. [Post edited 22 Apr 2020 14:36]
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| USA on 14:51 - Apr 22 with 1000 views | saint22 |
oh do pipe down you sycophant | | | |
| USA on 14:55 - Apr 22 with 999 views | DorsetIan |
What's the difference between a 'people's Conservative landslide majority government' and a 'Conservative landslide majority government' ?
Is is only 'whinging left wing morons' who have a lot to be grateful for or all 'whinging morons' ? | |
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