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Our financial position 10:05 - Feb 27 with 7703 viewsDarran

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Our financial position on 07:51 - Feb 29 with 1407 viewsCooperman

The concept by which the Glazer’s purchased Man U and the concept of how the Americans purchased a share of SCFC are two completely different scenarios.

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Our financial position on 07:53 - Feb 29 with 1403 viewsCooperman

“Free money”


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Our financial position on 08:16 - Feb 29 with 1367 viewsbennytheblue

Yes I know, yours is a hedge fund of 28 who all either borrowed or used there own funds to give the yanks fronting it, the glazers are on their own so to speak. Hedge funds don’t put more cash in if needed, they only take out.
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Our financial position on 08:42 - Feb 29 with 1364 viewsCooperman

Ok so you know, great. In that case why did you write what you did in the post that I responded to?

Do you simply write whatever comes into your head?

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Our financial position on 09:12 - Feb 29 with 1339 viewsmonmouth

Write what comes into his head? Nah, that would just be stupid.

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Our financial position on 10:17 - Feb 29 with 1298 viewsmajorraglan

The Ayew situation is an real issue, if he’s on the £4m wages frequently bandied about then that will amount to 25% of next seasons parachute payment which is a huge chunk of the club’s revenue.
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Our financial position on 10:17 - Feb 29 with 1295 viewsWarwickHunt

There’s plenty of room in there...
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Our financial position on 12:06 - Feb 29 with 1228 viewsTimTtam

Why are so many people worried about the Ayew situation (financially)?

It's almost a guarantee that Ayew will be leaving at the end of the season. Scoring double digit goals in the Championship so far (should be even higher come season's end) will create several interested clubs. He'll be in the final year of his contract and is on high wages so we won't get a large fee I don't think, but for a PL team who gets desperate next season (Newcastle, Leeds*, Aston Villa, Brighton etc), they could afford those wages.

It creates an issue while he's on the books. Next season he will be off and we will save 4M in annual wages + get a likely transfer fee. It's a squad issue, not a financial one.

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Our financial position on 12:13 - Feb 29 with 1220 viewsjasper_T

People have been saying it'll be easy to get him off the books for a few windows now. Believe it when I see it.
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Our financial position on 12:31 - Feb 29 with 1198 viewsglanmORJa_k

If you can guarantee that Ayew will be off then I suggest you get a job alongside Birch
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Our financial position on 12:51 - Feb 29 with 1183 viewsCooperman

Did you almost guarantee that we would move him on in the summer of 2019?

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Our financial position on 13:14 - Feb 29 with 1156 viewsunion_jack

Yes, you know, the model Cardiff have.


Or so many of them think.

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Our financial position on 13:25 - Feb 29 with 1147 viewsbuilthjack

He will go on a free. That's the only way another club would afford his wages.

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Our financial position on 14:10 - Feb 29 with 1117 viewsjackjackjackjack

I expect he'll be here next season. He'll get his £80,000 a week, which no other club will pay, and then get a signing-on fee when he joins his next club.

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Our financial position on 14:19 - Feb 29 with 1104 viewsjasper_T

We'll get the same % of wage loan offers we've been having for him, and might have to accept the best one we get as our position will be worse than it was this season.

Not done enough to suggest anyone will be keen to throw a new contract at him at or above his current wage.
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Our financial position on 14:43 - Feb 29 with 1083 viewsexhmrc1

It shouldn't be a problem next season as all the other high earners will either have left or had to signed new contracts on lower wages. Baston, Carroll and Nordfeldt went in January. Naughton, Van der Hoorn, Dyer and Mulder are going this year. The players brought in on loan wont be there. Ayew's estimated £5 million annual earnings will be more than covered by the £15 million parachute payments. The maximum saving on him will be about £5 million unless there is a transfer fee and less if someone pays part of his wages. The big financial issue is recovering the huge transfer fees wasted on players in previous seasons. How much is still to be recovered on the amounts paid for Bony, Clucas, Both Ayews, Mesa, Sanchez and Abrahams loan fees etc. There may be need to further sell to cover these although the fees recovered for Mawson, James and Mcburnie will have gone some way to offset those.

Based on good estimates the income should be around £30 million next year and the wage bill and other costs for next year should be covered by these. It is the year after next without ant parachute payments that might be more problematic.
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Our financial position on 14:58 - Feb 29 with 1066 viewsmonmouth

Sorry that is simply not accurate. If we could have got shot, he'd already be gone. Few would meet his wage demands, let alone a transfer fee on top. No matter that he's looked good for us, he's simply not worth that sort of money and probably never has been, certainly not the mark 2 post West Ham version.

He needs to do something that allows us to start a media bandwagon so that some deluded PL club (or Leeds or WBA when they go up) will take a punt. Score a spectacular goal or play out of his skin against Leeds or WBA maybe.

I hope you are right about him getting a move, but I certainly don't think it's a foregone conclusion. While he stays he's like a noose around our neck, whatever he does on the pitch, unless he wins the next 9 games for us and then wins the play offs for us too.

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Our financial position on 15:22 - Feb 29 with 1043 viewsTimTtam

The previous season had Ayew out on loan and struggling in a top flight league. He hasn't been scoring 12+ goals every season. Teams get desperate and if they see a goalscorer who is for sale they will often buy without hesitation, even if it's easjer to score in the 2nd tier. I don't think he'd do that well in the PL or another top flight league, but I can definitely see a team swooping.

Besides, what happened to all the people who were worried that Ayew would be bought in January? There were definitely a few on here. If they thought he may be bought then, the logic also applies in the summer.

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Our financial position on 01:06 - Mar 1 with 956 viewsTNT

If you want to save forty thousand pounds a week, move Naughton on.

At least Ayew is making a good contribution to our season. We've squandered money on worse, Mon.

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Our financial position on 03:49 - Mar 1 with 926 viewsjack247

If he is here next season, he will be the only player left on a legacy Premier League contract (I think Roberts, Grimes and Fulton all renewed since relegation), therefore in theory, 25% of our parachute payment, which is a mechanism to protect clubs against high wages on reduced income, is 25% of a bonus most of our competitors won’t have.
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Our financial position on 04:22 - Mar 1 with 922 viewsdameedna

We could still be promoted. That would change the dynamic.
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Our financial position on 08:18 - Mar 1 with 887 viewsBillyChong

“Running a top level football club” who’s he kidding?
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Our financial position on 09:20 - Mar 1 with 867 viewsTimTtam

I'm not even considering that. I don't want to think about it, since it's so unlikely. The way I see it the only way we go up is if I'm not expecting it / have given up hope.

If your scenario happens, he's staying for sure, and wages wouldn't be an issue at all.

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Our financial position on 09:23 - Mar 1 with 863 viewsmajorraglan

VDH, Naughton, Dyer, Mulder and Routledge all out of contract in June which is potentially around £100k per week r £5m pa (if not a little more ) off the books, if Ayew is also moved on you can more or less double that figure. That should hopefully see the club moving back on to a more Ben keel.
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Our financial position on 11:41 - Mar 1 with 833 viewsNookiejack

Any news on the legal action Darren? That must be another month gone by?
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