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What makes you think that Rangel has any Managerial Qualities whatsoever? Just because he plays decent footbal it is not a given he would be any good at anything else.
Martinez inherited a decent side containing some bloody good players at a club on the up not riven with disputes and the need for financial salvaging. We were also a division lower. Different situation.
The last three managers we've appointed with little or no experience of being the top man in any setup (Monk, Clement and Cooper) have all failed. We can't afford to let another novice loose on the side.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
Roberto also had the respect of all the players already and was a leader when he played here. Obviously still a huge leap, but these things helped.
I think the next manager must have proven he can deliver a decent level of football at some professional level and not the sheltered world of international youth set ups.
Looking into Burchnall, his background (outside of the long playing career) is very similar to Potter. So does look a good shout.
Yeah your right... Fůck my eyes, people are really happy with any old turd I guess.
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Hi, how are you and the lad, mate (and rest of family - pet included of course).
I'm as frustrated as the next man when it comes to our football team / club, but people post on here 'Manager Out' with no idea what they next wish for. To be fair some are now starting to suggest a way forward.
Yep all good, thanks even poor dog! Hope you are too.
Yes, we can all speculate and offer opinions but we don't have all the options and facts to hand eh. The saddest thing for me is the final realisation that Cooper simply doesn't have the tools or skills, and I actually feel sorry for him - this was his big chance and he wasn't able to take it.
The bit someone needs to explain to me is how it was OK, well more than OK, at the start of the season. Personally, I think the pressure has clouded his judgement. Rabbit in the headlights?
I agree somewhat, but do think the blame lies with the people who appointed him...
FWIW, I think Coops is a good guy and probably great with young players.
Thing is, as manager of academy sides, or even England World cup winning team, there is no real tactics needed. I mean, in the WC, you don't know who your next opponent is going to be, so you can only do minimal research on the way they play or what their players are going to do. Same with academy football. You can't really scout your opposition, as they are usually all unknowns. Hence, Cooper's job was all about what his players can do and what he wants them to do. He even says this in almost every pre match presser for us. "We will concentrate on ourselves".
It's a viable tactic, but not one that works fully with a squad of mediocre players.
Every manager needs to adapt to the oppostition. I don't think Cooper is good at this. He truly believes in his players and that they can overcome the opposition by playing their own game. Unfortunately, other teams know exactly how we are going to play and quickly adapt. This isn't a problem in cup or youth football.
Cooper is going to have to learn this pretty quickly, or maybe get an assistant in who is more tactically aware.
Trev, Leon et al. must have seen Cooper's skills. It's pretty obvious he hadn't wowwed them with his tactical knowledge, so surely they are to blame and not Coops. Cooper is honest. He says all the time "concentrate on ourselves".
It doesn't look like we will sack him, as we're skint. Anyway, who would we get in? The crap that we were linked with last time was pointless. Maybe there's a youngster who Cooper could bring in for extra tactical nous?
We were so lucky with Potter last year, yet people weren't happy with him either.
Any ideas who you guys would like to bring in if Cooper left?
I love Rangel too. But what you're saying is to get rid of our inexperienced manager, in order to replace them with an even more inexperienced manager.
It's unclear what people want. Is it more experience, or is it an untried manager?
If it's the latter, surely they can't complain if it goes wrong?
That's very true I suppose. But who on earth is there that would come to us on shit money? It will have to be someone with minimal experience. Someone Potter-esque please.
Preston don't pay great wages and they got Alex Neil, he got Norwich out of this league and had only managed in Scotland previously. Surely we have the pull of someone of that calibre. A grounded championship manager. Gary Rowett is doing a good job at Millwall, despite his time at Stoke. Chris Houghton is not of a great style of football but gets results,
Players that Martinez played with for a season or two, and knew the strengths and weaknesses of. There's no comparison really is there?
I originally voted no to Cooper out, however my reservations have grown. I just want him to be more fluid and less stubborn his tactical approach to matches. He never changes any of the roles, simply the players! It's frustrating. The best managers adapt, he doesnt!
Petrifies me that he will be in charge of a side next year without our out of contract lot and Rodon/Celina.
Probably a nice fella, but just hasn't got the personality or knowhow to manage at this level. We are completely skint so won't be sacking him, but if Rodon goes which is what everyone is expecting, and we had a spare bit of the cash generated from the deal, I wouldn't be against us paying him up and getting Cam Toshack in. We won't spend on players but atleast he will have some of the U23's he managed successfully albeit at a lower standard.
Me too. He's had a few months to think about his performance, whether he's doing a good job, and what he needed to change up when the season restarted. And it's taken just 2 games for the usual to resume.
The decline was such a shame, and is unprecedented. This is a stat I posted about back in October:
"For at least the last 7 seasons, no team that has been top after 10 games has finished outside the playoffs. If we are at least competitive, we have a shot at making the top 6."
I'm not sure that there has been competitiveness though. And while some of that blame may fall onto the players, it is Cooper's job to motivate them and to tinker with the game plan in order to get a response. Last season Potter had a habit of waking us up after a poor 1st half, but Cooper doesn't imo.
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