| Fair play 22:17 - Nov 4 with 9695 views | Garyjack |
Stoke are absolutely fvckin shocking. What a mess of a club. The way their owners have run that club since relegation is nothing short of criminal. It really puts things into perspective when you think they've thrown millions to get back up yet are bottom of the league, yet we sold everything we could and are competing at the top end of the table. I can't bring myself to praise the yanks, but they certainly haven't fvcked us off have they? [Post edited 4 Nov 2019 22:21]
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| Fair play on 23:34 - Nov 4 with 2576 views | angryjack |
So they not in debt then.... | | | |
| Fair play on 23:37 - Nov 4 with 2566 views | swancity |
You said quote “ the way the owners have run that club since relegation is nothing short of criminal “
That’s clearly incorrect. They off loaded some of the high earners like Shaqiri and others like Allen were on reduced contracts. They ploughed in around £50m last year into the Club albeit they receive alarmingly high salaries. They hoped for a quick Premier League return. It didn’t work but they have the money to manage their situation. It’s hardly criminal is it. | |
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| Fair play on 23:42 - Nov 4 with 2551 views | swancity |
To use a betting analogy ;
Only bet with what you can afford to lose. That seems to be their position and policy. | |
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| Fair play on 00:03 - Nov 5 with 2526 views | Garyjack |
Oh shut up you fool. The word criminal wasn't used in the literal sense! If you think Stoke City is being run in a financially prudent manner then you need your fvckin head tested mate. Fact is, they're going to get relegated again despite spending millions whether it be buy and sell since they came out of the Prem at the same time as us. | | | |
| Fair play on 02:04 - Nov 5 with 2472 views | NotLoyal |
I'll take your 50 million and raise you to 80 million. | |
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| Fair play on 04:42 - Nov 5 with 2429 views | TimTtam |
At first I thought Stoke would surely escape the weak FFP system. But looking at this, given that they haven't stopped spending, they're in big trouble. And they deserve it. They tried to buy the PL twice, and will fail each time.
Does anyone know, if FFP sanctions are put into effect on Stoke, will they be this season or next season? | |
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| Fair play on 07:06 - Nov 5 with 2365 views | ladyjack |
Lots of Championship teams roll the dice. | | | |
| Fair play on 08:14 - Nov 5 with 2325 views | Chief |
So in conclusion, they are a club like everyone who's income has dropped from their prem days but are slowly&steady getting rid of their high earners while maintaining a competitive squad at this level (or at least it should be) with serviceable debt.
The problem at that club aren't the owners. | |
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| Fair play on 08:47 - Nov 5 with 2290 views | jojaca |
If they employ a good manager, they have enough quality in the squad to shoot up the table. They have zero confidence at the moment, the team we saw at the Liberty would beat us 6/7 times out of ten. | |
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| Fair play on 09:25 - Nov 5 with 2259 views | Wantagejack |
Denise Coates paid herself £265 million last year. Mug's game?? | | | |
| Fair play on 09:41 - Nov 5 with 2236 views | dickythorpe |
What a milk float Carthorse double-barrell is!!!! | | | |
| Fair play on 09:45 - Nov 5 with 2229 views | 34dfgdf54 |
It's mental because they really impressed me against us, we must have just been awful. | | | |
| Fair play on 11:23 - Nov 5 with 2180 views | Chief |
They were good in fairness. Combatted us perfectly.
You can't say they haven't appointed decent managers on paper too. Nathan Jones was hardly a Bob Bradley appointment was he? | |
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| Fair play on 12:14 - Nov 5 with 2145 views | swancity |
Yes thats it in a nutshell
The thread was started without much thought or any real knowledge of their circumstances or situation clearly | |
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| Fair play on 12:20 - Nov 5 with 2133 views | Dr_Winston |
We lost to them because even the shadow of Joe Allen is still a more effective midfielder than any of our lot. We had absolutely no answer to him driving the play forward. The one strength they've got played right into our biggest weakness. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Fair play on 17:17 - Nov 5 with 2010 views | LeonWasGod |
Making decisions that led to their relegations whilst running up net debts of £100m, and then taking them to the bottom of the Championship despite apparently gambling on a quick return (to be confirmed in the next set of accounts).
Apart from that, they've been great  | | | |
| Fair play on 17:30 - Nov 5 with 1999 views | Chief |
If you want to use the mantra that the buck has to stop somewhere, fair enough, but the owners invested in a squad that should have been good enough to stay in the prem (ok Hughes wasn't a very good appointment) but in this division they still have a squad capable of being near the top as well as managers like Rowett and Jones who should be good enough at this level. There's obviously something wrong there- it isn't clicking but the owners, from my limited knowledge of the club are not culpable. | |
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| Fair play on 17:38 - Nov 5 with 1988 views | GixerJack |
They spunked £6mill+ on Clucas!!! | | | |
| Fair play on 17:43 - Nov 5 with 1981 views | monmouth |
We also retreated ten yards as we did against Forest and Reading and allowed them the freedom to press us to their hearts content. I think if we'd kept trying to play on the front foot in all those games we would now have at least 5 points more, even with our piss weak centre mid. | |
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| Fair play on 18:54 - Nov 5 with 1935 views | Garyjack |
Their accounts for the last financial year are due out this month, and is expected to show that the club is over £200m in debt, an increase of £75m in just one year. They are bottom of the championship and playing in front of a half empty stadium (at best). Yet you say the problem is not down to the owners. Who's fault do you think it is then? The fvckin tea lady's?  | | | |
| Fair play on 18:58 - Nov 5 with 1917 views | builthjack |
We spunked £16m on him | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Fair play on 19:02 - Nov 5 with 1910 views | shandyjack |
Was mental to hear Sam Allardyce this morning claim that there demise was down to the lack of funding from the owners and cutting the squad back after relegation. | |
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| Fair play on 19:08 - Nov 5 with 1901 views | Garyjack |
 Did he! Look, i do not doubt the owners have good intentions, but they've got it so so wrong, and plunged the club into an horrific state financially. | | | |
| Fair play on 19:25 - Nov 5 with 1876 views | Garyjack |
I'm well aware of their circumstances, just like i was aware of Bolton owner Eddie Davies who wrote of £185m of debt he was owed, look at them now eh? | | | |
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