| Prorogation 10:44 - Sep 24 with 14538 views | waynekerr55 |
Illegal. Will Boris resign? | |
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| Prorogation on 10:56 - Sep 24 with 3603 views | LeonWasGod |
Nah. He ain't got no shame. This will be spun as a bitter blow for democracy and sovereignty - enemies of the people, blah, blah, blah. And on we go. | | | |
| Prorogation on 11:02 - Sep 24 with 3592 views | union_jack |
I’m obviously mistaken but I thought that Parliament is in recess at the moment (not prorogued) due to it being party conference season. Why then are they talking about parliament being recalled immediately?
Great result by the way.
Lady Hale for Strictly😄 (Not that I watch it). | |
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| Prorogation on 11:05 - Sep 24 with 3582 views | exiledclaseboy |
Parliament was prorogued before it could vote on whether to go into recess. | |
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| Prorogation on 11:25 - Sep 24 with 3531 views | longlostjack |
So he’s basically broken the law, lied to Queenie and treated Parliament with contempt. Not to mention defrauding the taxpayer to keep his lap dancing bit on the side sweet. He has to resign. | |
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| Prorogation on 11:28 - Sep 24 with 3519 views | exiledclaseboy |
If this isn’t a resignation issue there are literally no limits to what this or future prime ministers can get away with without having to reign. This should be a line in the sand. | |
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| Prorogation on 11:37 - Sep 24 with 3487 views | Pegojack |
He wouldn't resign if he was caught red handed raping his grannie. He has literally no morals and only one objective, the aggrandisement of Boris Johnson. | | | |
| Prorogation on 11:38 - Sep 24 with 3484 views | Glyn1 |
The judges unanimously ruled that the action itself to close Parliament for 5 weeks was illegal. But they didn't say anything about whether Johnson lied or not - people can do illegal actions through misunderstanding the law.
No doubt Parliament is recalled next week and the Tory party conference is cancelled or reduced in scope. [Post edited 24 Sep 2019 11:39]
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| Prorogation on 11:49 - Sep 24 with 3449 views | hobo |
It's not about resigning or not. If he;s broken the law then surely he should be arrested? After which his position will become untenable | | | |
| Prorogation on 11:56 - Sep 24 with 3434 views | Glyn1 |
It was the government that broke the law - no ruling on whether the PM did. Companies break the laws all the time, e.g. Google. | |
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| Prorogation on 12:07 - Sep 24 with 3409 views | exiledclaseboy |
That’s wrong. Prorogation happens on the advice of the PM, not the government. The cabinet and thus the rest of the government wasn’t informed until after advice and the request to prorogue had been made to the queen. | |
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| Prorogation on 12:08 - Sep 24 with 3407 views | londonlisa2001 |
Yeah, that’s a total misunderstanding of how serious a matter this is. | | | |
| Prorogation on 12:17 - Sep 24 with 3376 views | Highjack |
Good, now get back to the House of Commons and sort this out. | |
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| Prorogation on 12:20 - Sep 24 with 3369 views | Luther27 |
Nothing new for any politician there. In fact most of them should only now be freed from prison regarding the expenses scandal. | | | |
| Prorogation on 12:47 - Sep 24 with 3300 views | LeonWasGod |
It's wasn't their job to call him out as a liar or not; it was solely to rule on whether the suspension of parliament was illegal under UK law.
Of course he's a liar. We don't need judges to tell us that as the evidence is on tape every day. This wasn't a misunderstanding - it's obvious what he was trying to do. [Post edited 24 Sep 2019 12:51]
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| Prorogation on 13:53 - Sep 24 with 3163 views | waynekerr55 |
"misunderstanding the law"
Not knowing the law is not a defence - Sirjohnalot can confirm if I'm correct? (PS - cheque for advice en route  ) | |
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| Prorogation on 14:00 - Sep 24 with 3146 views | sherpajacob |
Davies the tw@t. MP for Monmouth, saying he stands by the PM who is simply trying everything to deliver Brexit.
Anybody else see why that's not the most helpful thing for him to say at this time? | |
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| Prorogation on 14:01 - Sep 24 with 3139 views | londonlisa2001 |
Lol.
Johnson made the same mistake in his interview.
Saying people are trying to frustrate Brexit when he earlier said it was nothing to do with Brexit.
Hmm. | | | |
| Prorogation on 14:07 - Sep 24 with 3120 views | Highjack |
It’s not a defence no. And it shouldn’t even be considered when they’ve got round the clock access to all the legal advice in the country. | |
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| Prorogation on 14:13 - Sep 24 with 3100 views | BrynCartwright |
Listen to this absolute plum..
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| Prorogation on 14:16 - Sep 24 with 3084 views | sherpajacob |
Its wrong to say all leave voters are stupid, but ……….. | |
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| Prorogation on 14:18 - Sep 24 with 3078 views | Lohengrin |
Without a written constitution that sets these things out in black and white then I don’t understand what ‘law’ it is he’s supposed to have broken? Riding roughshod over ‘custom and practice’ isn’t to commit a ‘crime.’
I’m writing this before I’ve had the chance to read the court’s findings, mind. | |
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| Prorogation on 14:20 - Sep 24 with 3073 views | sherpajacob |
The killer section from Lady Hale,
The government was unwilling to put any evidence before the court regarding the prorogation. We know the reason why, Perjury is quite a serious offence. So many serious issues regarding this case, but one that will be overlooked, the sheer incompetence of the government in bringing the appeal and then providing no evidence to support their own case.
"No justification for taking action with such an extreme effect has been put before the court. The only evidence of why it was taken is the memorandum from Nikki da Costa of 15th August. This explains why holding the Queen's Speech to open a new session of Parliament on 14th October would be desirable. It does not explain why it was necessary to bring Parliamentary business to a halt for five weeks before that, when the normal period necessary to prepare for the Queen's Speech is four to six days." | |
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| Prorogation on 14:21 - Sep 24 with 3069 views | sherpajacob |
what's Bluey doing in Stoke? | |
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| Prorogation on 14:23 - Sep 24 with 3055 views | Lohengrin |
FFS! He’s handicapped, Sherp.  | |
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| Prorogation on 14:24 - Sep 24 with 3054 views | londonlisa2001 |
I’d advise you read the ruling before speculating. They genuinely have written a judgement which is beautifully simple and easy to follow. In fact, on reading it, it’s pretty clear they couldn’t possibly have found in any other way. Which, I guess, is why, contrary to every single forecast from either side, they’ve were unanimous.
The absence of a written constitution isn’t relevant, however. Our constitution still exists. And, as such, acts can be unconstitutional. And, indeed, unlawful. | | | |
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