| Does Brexit die tonight? 11:59 - Sep 3 with 36040 views | westwalesed |
When this bill passes, which I expect it to, my understanding is that the EU theoretically can propose a different extension to the proposed January 31st, 2020 date currently in the bill.
The bill states that the PM has to accept that date, and that Parliament has two days to either accept or reject it (thereby putting any future extension date in the hands of Parliament as opposed to the PM). Given that we have a remain leaning parliament currently it's hard tp see how any proposed date would be rejected.
PM Johnson would then seek an election as he has stated, but now that it is looking as if the opposition parties may not get to the two-thirds of MPs required to trigger it, there will be no election at all. What then?
With a Govt that has to accept any date given and Parliament refusing to give him an opportunity to change the make up of the Commons, is this the day that Brexit dies?
Is it revoking A50 by the back door? | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 18:17 - Sep 3 with 1833 views | costalotta |
Maybe your over using the word “Arf” bluey. It’s getting a bit monotonous. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 18:24 - Sep 3 with 1806 views | sherpajacob |
the sort of word a Humbert uses all the time | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 18:29 - Sep 3 with 1795 views | Wingstandwood |
Cut and paste from another Brexit related topic on here from myself, regarding the question does Brexit die tonight? Maybe, maybe not, maybe not tonight, maybe not tomorrow even.
There may be yet some more unexpected twists and turns in this ongoing soap opera. That may take many by surprise after reading Guido Fawkes.....
"Despite the build-up to tonight’s vote, some Tory MPs believe a government loss tonight will not automatically translate to a government defeat tomorrow — with the rebels’ legislation failing at its 2nd Reading. All will become much clearer, however, at 7 pm…" | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 18:36 - Sep 3 with 1780 views | exiledclaseboy |
Old guido is the king of misinformation and propaganda. And also the king of wishful thinking it seems. His website is only taken in any way seriously by the deluded and hard of thinking. Bluey loves it. | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:05 - Sep 3 with 1720 views | bluey_the_blue |
Arf! | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:07 - Sep 3 with 1716 views | bluey_the_blue |
Oh please, just because Guido has been known to blast civil servants...
Did you hear the Natasha Engels interview on 5 live? Very interesting. Was deputy speaker under Bercow, ripped into him big time for not being independent, claimed "previous speakers would be turning in their graves". | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:16 - Sep 3 with 1702 views | exiledclaseboy |
I’ve no idea whether he “blasts” civil servants or not. I only see what he says when you regurgitate it on here.
Yes I heard the Engel interview. She also said that the SO24 decision he’s made tonight was absolutely the correct one. | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:27 - Sep 3 with 1671 views | monmouth |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:28 - Sep 3 with 1660 views | Jango |
So do you agree with her that he’s making a mockery of his job as speaker? | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:30 - Sep 3 with 1660 views | WarwickHunt |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:34 - Sep 3 with 1649 views | exiledclaseboy |
Not in the slightest. The Speaker’s job is to uphold the rights of the House of Commons. Given that the government and the previous one have sought to bypass it at every turn, he’s doing exactly what he should be. | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:36 - Sep 3 with 1640 views | exiledclaseboy |
The government clearly doesn’t want to win tonight’s vote. No other reason why they’d put Rees Mogg up to lead its response. He’s well out of his depth at the despatch box. | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:38 - Sep 3 with 1631 views | Jango |
What would Engel know eh. [Post edited 3 Sep 2019 19:38]
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:40 - Sep 3 with 1628 views | exiledclaseboy |
She’s certainly entitled to her opinion. It’s just not one I agree with. | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:41 - Sep 3 with 1622 views | bluey_the_blue |
Out of interest, any reason?
Engel has direct experience of working with Bercow, after all. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:42 - Sep 3 with 1619 views | exiledclaseboy |
I’ve already outlined my reason in my last reply to jango. [Post edited 3 Sep 2019 19:43]
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:43 - Sep 3 with 1618 views | londonlisa2001 |
Her performance today certainly doesn’t deserve full marks... | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:44 - Sep 3 with 1607 views | exiledclaseboy |
“The government draws power from parliament”.
Rees Mogg. House of Commons. Just now. Yes, Jacob. That’s kind of the point. | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:45 - Sep 3 with 1607 views | bluey_the_blue |
That's certainly an opinion.
Reason I'm asking is that by working with Bercow, I'd suggest she's seen more of Bercow in action than you; we all see the public actions in HoC obviously. That's why I'd tend to put stock in her view. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 19:50 - Sep 3 with 1585 views | exiledclaseboy |
Well I’m clearly not claiming to know Bercow better than Engel does. That would be silly and is a straw man All I’ve said is that I’ve disagreed with her opinion on Bercow’s actions as speaker since the referendum. You can put as much stock in anyone’s opinion as you want, that’s your right. I don’t care. | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 20:23 - Sep 3 with 1551 views | Jack59 |
He was already damaged beyond repair. Look at the flop demo's on the weekend, they barely made the news, and he'd called out his republican guard to bring the country to it's knees. What a complete bunch of t****rs that momentum lot are as well. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 20:25 - Sep 3 with 1541 views | JackSomething |
Seeing more of Bercow in action would of course mean nothing if she was full of praise for him...  | |
| You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help. |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 20:27 - Sep 3 with 1530 views | Fireboy2 |
Nothing he ever does that is good gets into the news as most of the media are pro tory. They only report negative stuff like his links to terrorists
I thought everyone knew that. [Post edited 3 Sep 2019 20:29]
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 20:39 - Sep 3 with 1498 views | sg1912 |
I agree, there's hardly any MPs that actually support Brexit.
I even think it's pretence from the likes of Johnson to keep Farage at arms length because they are shit scared of him splitting the traditional Tory voting base. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 20:46 - Sep 3 with 1475 views | monmouth |
I do hope you’re not implying Bluey only believes and parrots things that support his total delusions in his parallel universe. That would make him.....well, that would make him Cardiff.
Oh right, ok. | |
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