| Let's be honest 22:22 - Jul 18 with 14199 views | NotLoyal |
These fücking idiots aren't going to pay for any player regardless of what they say. A free here and their and a loan at best, fück me anyone could run a business like that with no investment. No better than silver twãtting shield or Petty. | |
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| Let's be honest on 18:59 - Jul 20 with 2288 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Fair dos to Borja then, put the graft in.
Like I said, another myth. | | | |
| Let's be honest on 20:40 - Jul 20 with 2177 views | Garyjack |
What's he done now then?
Edit: In fact what the fvck are you on about? [Post edited 20 Jul 2019 21:07]
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| Let's be honest on 21:16 - Jul 20 with 2110 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
Sure the argument isn’t where we are now but how we got here because of bad owners decisions na | |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| Let's be honest on 00:10 - Jul 21 with 2026 views | NotLoyal |
What books ? Where ?
What exact debts ?
Where ?
How much ? | |
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| Let's be honest on 10:05 - Jul 21 with 1899 views | Badlands |
Seriously? | |
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| Let's be honest on 11:14 - Jul 21 with 1853 views | jackrmee |
"their track record speaks for itself, Dav showed us that and that's why he left this forum"
Who's Dav?
What track record?
Why would that make him/her leave the forum? | |
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| Let's be honest on 11:17 - Jul 21 with 1847 views | jackrmee |
I don't think Montero is a negative influence, which showed with Potter wanting to get him fit anf firing for us last season.
Also, it doesn't seem like that with Borja this pre-season at least.
The Ayews on the other hand... | |
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| Let's be honest on 11:19 - Jul 21 with 1847 views | jackrmee |
I can't see any players actually refusing to play. And you can't not pay someone for having a bad attitude or sulking. | |
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| Let's be honest on 11:27 - Jul 21 with 1834 views | jackrmee |
Money aside...
Montero can definitely make a positive contribution.
Borja seems to be training hard and could surely score goals at Championship level, with Cooper talking him up and giving him minutes pre season. | |
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| Let's be honest on 11:30 - Jul 21 with 1833 views | jackrmee |
Agree with this.
Coopie has already said Borja is training hard. | |
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| Let's be honest on 11:41 - Jul 21 with 1829 views | jackrmee |
Not many with our pedigree of playing our way. OK we went off the rails after Monk, but it's coming back. That's attractive to young hungry players and they know that playing that way gives you an advantage in getting to the premier league, not only through that style getting the team up, but if that doesn't work, it can get you noticed as an individual player, if you knuckle down and improve.
I think Birch's plan for the structure of the club to be rooted in this can only make us more attractive to players and young managers alike. | |
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| Let's be honest on 11:47 - Jul 21 with 1820 views | jackrmee |
I agree with a lot of that.
I don't think the Yanks are as bad as we once thought and I do think getting the club on a financial even keel is the most important thing.
They've done great in bringing in Birch, but it's still difficult to support them for some reason. It just seems they don't care about the club or the fans. The way they went along with excluding the trust is another major issue for me.
I'm not saying they are the worst owners in the world, but I cannot support them.
I agree with what they're trying to do now in reconciling things, but I would like new owners at some point.
Not even owners who have money to plough in. Simply owners that care and support Swansea City.
IDeal would be for the Trust to get their payout and be in a position to buy the club at some point. | |
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| Let's be honest on 10:05 - Jul 22 with 1666 views | Badlands |
It is what it is.
I believe they aren't as bad as is made out by some and much of he angers results from jealousy that made some of the old board £millions.
The current owners, including individuals and trust, need to get our finances sorted out. For whatever reasons, we were haemorrhaging money in the Premier League and it could be argued it would have got worse had we scrapped a reprieve in 2017. The Americans paid the club respect by allowing the management more or less to reman in place. They should have acted like he thoughtless money grabbers they are made out to be and started off with a clean slate.
Management will always be criticised, often for good reason sometimes not, but managing a business as diverse as a football club (let alone one in financial free-fall) is incredible difficult.
So the constant insults, calls for 'buy this, buy that' put your hands in your pocket that are made against the American consortium is, IMO, unfair.
IMO the American consortium has done nothing to stop me enjoying supporting the Swans. Infact we are modernising business wise after 12 years of standing still. OK, we aren't in the Premier League. But we have only been in the top League a few season in our history and have only done well for 5 seasons at the level. Personally I'd rather see us compete against Brentford than struggle against Everton. But I realise many fans now believe we have the god given right to be in the Premier League.
They have not trashed us, hey have not deceived anyone or taken megabucks out; they are acting responsibly and are our best hope of having a club in the upper divisions in 10 years time.
As Pearlman has said in the past, if you want to make a serious offer the consortium will listen. So when the moaners come up with a serious offer or a sensible and workable alternative I will probably support them.
As for the Trust!
What has it done for ordinary supporters?
Has the Trust made a 21% contribution to the development of the club? I think not.
When Jenkins realised it was time for change they made it clear they would never sell their shares - fair enough. But who was going to put money into a business where a 1/5 was owned by amateurs who were opposed to change?
The answer was no-one.
I dread to think where we would be had someone with experience of running a multi £million business come to the rescue.
Rant over. | |
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| Let's be honest on 20:12 - Jul 22 with 1546 views | Oldjack |
Hmm ,in full knowledge whilst the Trust burnt ,they sat back and grinned ,I'll never ever trust them | |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Let's be honest on 20:23 - Jul 22 with 1539 views | Brynmill_Jack |
First line - spot on - we are where we are.
Last paragraph - imagine a combo of Birch, Tutumulu and Laudrup. Cheap signings couple with sound financial management and the best football we’ve ever seen. (Sighs) | |
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| Let's be honest on 20:27 - Jul 22 with 1532 views | Gaz_M |
Cretin. | | | |
| Let's be honest on 08:52 - Jul 23 with 1418 views | AlfieMooresSon |
Leeches, they are just seeing out their contract like most of us would?
I understand it doesn't suit us, but that's life, we messed up by giving them the contracts with no get-out clause, so now we have to accept that till they all go or run down their contracts! | | | |
| Let's be honest on 09:12 - Jul 23 with 1392 views | NotLoyal |
At Bristol tonight ? | |
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| Let's be honest on 09:14 - Jul 23 with 1387 views | NotLoyal |
Can you direct me to figures that confirm this ? | |
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| Let's be honest on 09:54 - Jul 23 with 1334 views | Fireboy2 |
They are prepared not to play for us but still take the money, fvcking leeches imo alfie.
Its lucky there are teams who will pay part of their wages to take the cvnts off our hands, even if its on loan. | | | |
| Let's be honest on 09:58 - Jul 23 with 1326 views | LeonWasGod |
If I had a short career that I supposedly loved, I'd be looking to find somewhere I could play, not just see out my contract. So not all of us would do what they're doing.
Agree with your second paragraph though. We made this mess, and some players are more interested in the money than playing the game (or there agents are). So it is what it is. | | | |
| Let's be honest on 10:10 - Jul 23 with 1315 views | Luther27 |
That just about sums up the Premiership really. | | | |
| Let's be honest on 15:13 - Jul 23 with 1193 views | AlfieMooresSon |
Very frustrating, we've made some mistakes, hopefully, some will move just for some self-respect, let's wait and see? | | | |
| Let's be honest on 16:06 - Jul 23 with 1156 views | Fireboy2 |
It is but they will only move if it suits them.
As you say it is frustrating but thats part of what you have to deal with in the PL. | | | |
| Let's be honest on 16:45 - Jul 23 with 1110 views | Croftyjack |
It's amazing how fake news and a bit of brainwashing can do.
So would you be happy going to your grave knowing that the club is still around despite actually participating in the reason it was born.
We go to see entertaining football and hope for success on the way. | | | |
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