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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal 16:16 - Apr 2 with 19913 viewsDarran

Do people think this is a true story or have The Times made it up?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/vitriol-and-threats-of-violence-the-ugly-face

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 16:23 - Apr 2 with 4796 viewsHCMC

Made up for sure.

He is a saint and so are all the members of his cult.
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 16:31 - Apr 2 with 4773 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

ffs

Anyone can post anything on face book sites on any sites, and this has happened on this site also .

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 16:37 - Apr 2 with 4759 viewswaynekerr55

I think the truth is probably somewhere in the middle Tommy. Is he an anti Semite? Probably not. Is he afraid of losing momentum (no pun intended) by looking to address these issues? Yes, without doubt. As a relative said "politics is the dirtiest word in the English language"

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 16:44 - Apr 2 with 4739 viewssherpajacob

a lot of tories paid to join the labour party in order to vote Corbyn as leader apparently.

who are these people posting hate messages on a Corbyn supporting FB page?

The same people, is it possible?

There are Cardiff fans posting on Planet swans does that make PS a Cardiff supporting forum?

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 16:47 - Apr 2 with 4732 viewslondonlisa2001

It's difficult to avoid coming to the conclusion that Jeremy Corbyn is actually just completely bloody thick. Because the alternative is even worse.
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 16:49 - Apr 2 with 4729 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Your last comment hits it home fair play .


There is anti anything every where

The Times- murdoch needs to spend more time in bed with that bint of his before his time is up on this planet.

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 16:53 - Apr 2 with 4719 viewslondonlisa2001

Tories are standing as labour councillors and posting anti Semitic or misogynistic hate speech ?

Yeah, that's definitely the most likely explanation.
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 16:55 - Apr 2 with 4709 viewsbluey_the_blue

Yup, there are no Labour anti-semites whatsoever, they are all Tories.

All those suspended were clearly done so incorrectly, which explains the numbers let back in.

Wibble.

You have the likes of Scott Nelson ("Socialist Voice"). Suspended from Labour for anti-semitism; Labour MP Chris Williamson claimed Nelson had never posting anything anti-semitic whatsoever. When examples were given to him it then became "Oh, he's repeatedly apologised..". So he apologised for comments apparently not made!

As for your latter point, that's possibly one of the most moronic analogies ever.
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 16:56 - Apr 2 with 4703 viewslondonlisa2001

See this is the problem.

Why on earth do you think that referring to Jerry Hall in derogatory terms is part of a conversation about Corbyn or for that matter, the utterly disgusting Murdoch?

Genuinely.
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 16:57 - Apr 2 with 4700 viewsbluey_the_blue

Yeah buy to people like Tommy that's plausible because those Jooz are like shape shifting reptiles, innit?
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal (n/t) on 17:04 - Apr 2 with 4678 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:05 - Apr 2 with 4672 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

you see how this works now

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:06 - Apr 2 with 4668 viewswaynekerr55

Da joos 😂😂

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:08 - Apr 2 with 4662 viewslondonlisa2001

I see how what works?
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:11 - Apr 2 with 4650 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Anyone can write anything on a forum face book page etc .

I apologise to Miss Hall for using her just to make a point.

(only a small apology mind you)


I'm off out for a pint of dancing camel .
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:22 - Apr 2 with 4628 viewsDarran

Well done Tom I’m sure ’Jer’ would be well proud of you.


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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:23 - Apr 2 with 4626 viewsbluey_the_blue

Of course anyone can write anything on a forum.

When people repeatedly write anti-semitism on social media freely, it's because they believe it's a) acceptable, b) will be zero sanction for doing so because "free speech".

What we're seeing is that the consequences when Labour members are doing so in volumes, are often minor and it's like whack-a-mole.

I don't believe Corbyn is anti-semitic per se, but those surrounding him are certainly more dangerous. Where Corbyn has failed is that he's joined groups just so he's seen to be present. He's adopted the Wenger defence of "I did not see that" when examples have been bloody blatant. That just shows a lack of judgment or awareness whatsoever - quite frankly, I'd not expect the leader of the opposition to be on farcebook 24/7 but at least look at the content of groups you've joined every now and then.

A lot of this he can also be blamed for with regards to the woefully inadequate Chakrabarti report. People don't seem to realise she wanted a 2 year "statute of limitations" for dealing with cases. Corbyn dithering with regards to setting things up fully in terms of personnel etc mean some very high profile cases will soon lapse - Livingstone, Walker et al.

There are elements of the Labour party who are now jumping on board the Corbyn train who are every bit as odious as NF / BNP and should be treated exactly the same way.
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:24 - Apr 2 with 4621 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

shes lovely really but loves the

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:27 - Apr 2 with 4611 viewsDarran

Like I said to Ebo the other day nobody had accused Corbyn of being anti-Semitic he was apologising on behalf of the Labour Party then suddenly there’s was his supporters all over social media with the “Jeremy’s a lovely passive man who couldn’t possibly be anti-Semitic it racist” when nobody had actually said he was.

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:30 - Apr 2 with 4601 viewslondonlisa2001

Of course anyone can write anything. But the whole point is that someone else then says 'that's not acceptable' or in a case where there is really dreadful stuff written, right minded people ask for it to be removed, want the person banned if it is repeated, or if it continues, leave the forum. They don't just ignore it and say 'I've never seen anything' and then leave when the press pick it up.
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:30 - Apr 2 with 4598 viewsDarran

Strange marriage mind,I just can’t imagine him on top of her.

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:32 - Apr 2 with 4590 viewsoh_tommy_tommy



just an example

anti everything is rife

I bid you a good evening

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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:38 - Apr 2 with 4581 viewsbluey_the_blue

That's a useful deflection tactic which ignores the main point - levels of anti-semitic comment are rising within British society at the moment and it's not the usual suspects the far right behind it for once.

Corbyn :"We need to deal with the problem"
Others : "Well there's example after example after example..."
Corbynistas : "Jezza's good and bright and wonderful and wise, he could never the anti-semitic as he's against all kinds of racism"
Others: "Errm, he's acknowledged problems with Labour..."
Corbynistas : "You leave our Jezza alone you brutes!"

There are a lot of anti-semitic far left now returning to the Labour fold; that's not down to Corbyn per se but more a feeling on their part of emboldenment, that it's the way aboutr should be, that Corbyn is "one of them". He now has a major problem that he's stored up for himself by having not nipped it in the bud years ago - act and he irritates some of his support. Don't act and he'll irritate the public.

Labour also have the problem in that quite a few candidates they themselves have selected at all levels have had, within days, anti-semitic posts revealed. If others can easily find those posts on social media then that indicates Labour HQ simply aren't up to scratch when it comes to vetting potential candidates - or don't care.
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:39 - Apr 2 with 4574 viewsHCMC

You were not trying to use her to make a point.

You were implying Murdoch should be having a load of sex with the "bint" since you hope and think he will be dead in the near future.

Your only "use" of her was to think she was on the planet just to satisfy Murdochs sexual urges.

Sexist to the extreme.
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The ugly face of Corbyn’s cabal on 17:46 - Apr 2 with 4561 viewsbluey_the_blue

Rife? Where racism, sexism exist then it should be dealt with appropriately whichever party the perpetrators follow.

What we are seeing and what you cannot deny is that the levels of anti-semitism are larger and more pervasive within Labour than any other party; that's not decrying or justifying any racism by followers of other parties.

When Labour try to claim it's not really a problem as JVL said it isn't... JVL is an organisation set up solely to claim there is no anti-semitism within Labour. Why, listen to them as they are Jewish - and ignore the fact the group is packed with self-identifying Jews.

Jackie Walker for example. Can't possible be anti-semitic despite all her anti-semitic comments because she found out her dad who conveniently she's not seen in decades just happens to be Jewish. The one logical fail she doesn't quite grasp is that "Jewishness" passes down the female side, by her own admission her mum is Roman Catholic and raised her the same. Her dad being Jewish is nothing more than a convenient tactic to try to evade culpability for her comments. Indeed, the only people who would believe Walker to be Jewish are errm anti-semites / BNP ilk.
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