| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. 23:04 - Jan 14 with 21819 views | BromleyHoop |
https://t.co/8t6fl2kJwp
Hopefully the above link works. It’s from a BBC podcast on Welsh football.
There’s a very interesting insight from Danny Gabbidon about his time at Crystal Palace working under Ian Holloway during his short time as manager there. Listen between. 12.20 and 19.10.
Gabbidon also doesn’t have great things to say about Mark Hughes when they were both at QPR. Listen from 24.10. [Post edited 14 Jan 2018 23:21]
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| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 11:45 - Jan 17 with 3085 views | THEBUSH |
I can´t disagree with any of this post.
I will add I like most of the players he has brought in.
IMO Holloway understands what type of player is needed in the Championship, especially under our financial restrictions. | | | |
| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 12:20 - Jan 17 with 3047 views | WestbourneR |
Yeah I'll take it as a plus that Holloway has a links and strength of feeling for the club - however I think it's a long way off being very important.
The vast majority of successful managers have no prior connection with club they manage.
If we're going to focus on employing people who have supported or played for QPR then we're severely limiting our options.
Eg. JFH - i don't think he was a great manager but I don't think his lack of passion for QPR was an issue. | |
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| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 13:00 - Jan 17 with 3002 views | Northernr |
Yeh I'm inclined to agree. I think the hunger for it at QPR was born out of having first Hughes, who basically used the club to try and be bertie big bollox and employ all his mates, and then Redknapp, who so obviously didn't give a single sht about what he was doing.
While it may not be a pre-requisite for a manager, it is important to have people around your club who have the club at heart and QPR suffered in part for ripping that out during the Paladini, Briatore and early Fernandes years. You need those sorts of people behind the scenes, in the youth academy, in the back office, IMO, but not necessarily in the dugout like you say. | | | |
| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 13:20 - Jan 17 with 2975 views | WestbourneR |
Good point. QPR people in the club management positions has been a big improvement. | |
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| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 13:42 - Jan 17 with 2945 views | Antti_Heinola |
Agree with all this - as a caveat: Venables, Francis, Holloway: three managers who achieved a level of success with us over the last 40 years. All Ex-QPR players. Before that, Jago, Les Allen. It's been the outsiders who have been poorest, with Warnock the exception.
'it's a local club for local people, Tubbs'.
However, totally agree with you Westbourne on this issue. A plus, but not necessary at all. | |
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| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 14:41 - Jan 17 with 2888 views | Jigsore |
does someone mind telling me how Danny Gabbidon became the man who 'epitomises everything wrong with modern football' | |
| “The thing about football - the important thing about football - is that it is not just about football.†|
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| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 14:41 - Jan 17 with 2888 views | daveB |
I think it helps with managers as well as players that when they come to QPR it's a club they want to be at rather than something beneath them with half an eye on the next step.
Even for Warnock it was a big opportunity for him and he was pleased to be here, you never got that sense from Hughes, Redknapp or even Hasselbaink. | | | |
| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 14:58 - Jan 17 with 2868 views | EastR |
Two of those last three couldn’t give a flying fcuk
And the other one couldn’t believe his luck | |
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| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 15:09 - Jan 17 with 2844 views | paulparker |
I think JFH cared , for him it should have been a platform to go onto bigger things managing us but we know the reasons why it didn't work out he was to defensive and was to loyal to certain players and the 4-2-3-1 system
but at least he introduced Shodipo to the first team and for a while we had a very exciting youngster on our books who we could have flogged ala lookman at Everton | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 15:33 - Jan 17 with 2819 views | OnlyMe |
We seem to many to be behaving like a club that is utterly skint --- Sell what we can, whenever we can and replace with youngsters from within. No options.
And if that IS how it is then we might as well accept our future as a League One club that sometimes has seasons as a make-up-the-numbers Championship club.
While I've always supported the idea of a new stadium, a club of the kind we would be looking at becoming would need a fairly basic stadium primarily designed for money-raising away from football just to pay for itself with nothing much for the football side. And as for a new training ground --- would we be hiring it out to other clubs? The idea, I thought, was to get top (or at least very good) quality facilities to help in attracting top (or at least very good) quality players. Currently it looks like we're not really going to be looking to attract ANY players that are anything above average?
I'm saying "looks like" because I can't (don't want to) believe in the reality of the scenario(s) I've set out --- which means something else is going on and we're not being told? If any FFP punishment is effectively sorted why are we not looking forward instead of looking like a club with its head down trying to hang on as if we were a Barnet or Orient (just as examples).
Given all that, I can see (if not actually understand or agree with) what some "fans"--- mostly of the more intellectually-challenged type --- are getting their nappies tangled over. | | | |
| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 16:42 - Jan 17 with 2774 views | daveB |
I think that reality is what the club have to go through for the next few years but doesn't mean it will be forever and I reckon we'll be in a better position to challenge at the top end of this division if we go through this and stick with it | | | |
| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 19:05 - Jan 17 with 2723 views | kensalriser |
The FFP debacle is far from sorted, that's why we're doing what we're doing. | |
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| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 14:51 - Jan 18 with 2561 views | TGRRRSSS |
I think nobody's mentioned Hughes because actually as a manager he#s achieved far less than Holloway, yet somehow managed to walk into successive jobs in the Premier League, despite being poor in most of them by and large with the exception of his time at Blackburn.
I don't think fans of Man City, Fulham QPR or Stoke would ever want him back.
Even now his power ful media an d Agent connections mean he'll probably be in line for another PL job by next season you'd imagine.
He would never drop a division, he doesnt do relegation..
As for Gabbidon wasn't he overweight and generally injured when at Rangers? | | | |
| Ian Holloway as Manager, a players view. on 15:25 - Jan 18 with 2531 views | WestbourneR |
Gabbidon was talking about Ollie at Palace. His form and weight at Rangers isn't relevant. | |
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