| Our fans.. 04:57 - Nov 5 with 17198 views | EU5Makaveli |
Half the problem in my opinion, Yes.. we are absolutely sh*t at the moment, but players feed off the crowds energy! And singling out individuals is not helping anyone. Okay Carroll and Clucas were abysmal today but for those who have actually kicked a ball in their lifetime (rather than those armchair idoiots who have never stepped across the white line) know that anyone can have a poor game, and sometimes you can't do much about it.. those fans who jeered Carroll and Clucas off the field are absolute idiots. I guarantee they didn't have a poor game on purpose...so grow up! The problem lies with our poor recruitment, and nothing else.. we sold our 2 match winners and replaced them with players.. some with raw potential and some who aren't good enough! But for our own sake... next home game realise that we are in this together and get behind the team rather than looking for scapegoats! Otherwise it will be a long, hard season.. and also next season in the championship! We are all part of it.. realise this and GET BEHINHD THE TEAM
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| Our fans.. on 08:43 - Nov 5 with 2200 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Absolutely spot on about Clement. Done a great job last season when he had to coach a shape to us and make us hard to beat. We were still short on goals though, difference was we had Siggys set pieces and Llorente in the box attacking them.
This season he’s got to manage, integrate new players into a team and failing miserably. As you said, pretty much taking a season out of the careers (short careers may I add) of Mesa and Clucas. Both in my opinion, should be starting every week in the middle.
Also - was Sanches at the ground yesterday? I’m starting to think something may be up. | | | |
| Our fans.. on 08:48 - Nov 5 with 2188 views | SWAND |
Exactly my point. When the basics aren’t done then what do they expect. It’s not the result, it’s the fact none of them at the moment can play football. We’ve now lost to a lot of the “bottom half” teams at home, things are just going to get harder.
Ah well, at least we get to look forward to 5 at the back against Burnley away! | | | |
| Our fans.. on 08:50 - Nov 5 with 2173 views | NOTRAC |
You,my friend, have to be one of the most obnoxious persons whose ego must be so enormous that there is no room for anyone else's opinion without degrading them to your own guttural adjectives. | |
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| Our fans.. on 08:51 - Nov 5 with 2165 views | SgorioFruit |
Home disadvantage?
Haha in the words of Res
Fack me | |
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| Our fans.. on 08:52 - Nov 5 with 2158 views | TheResurrection |
the first ugly and nasty shouts, and I'm talking fans off their seats and throwing their arms around came after Carroll went backwards with a completed pass.
That's got fack all to do with the basics, in fact that's doing the facking basics.
After that these players confidences were shot.
So make excuses all you like but our fans yesterday were a disgrace. | |
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| Our fans.. on 08:53 - Nov 5 with 2148 views | Jackfath |
Did you speak to any of our fans about this yesterday during the match Chrissie? | |
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| Our fans.. on 08:55 - Nov 5 with 2145 views | TheResurrection |
Aye, that's me, and who are you exactly? | |
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| Our fans.. on 09:06 - Nov 5 with 2102 views | costalotta |
Er no, jenkins did not 'give us' premier league football. The club, the city earnt it.
What a ridiculous comment. | | | |
| Our fans.. on 09:09 - Nov 5 with 2085 views | TheResurrection |
I don't think even his biggest haters, and there's a few of those now, would begrudge him that accolade.
The club was led by him and helped by one or two others.
The city facking earned it? You still on the phet or something? | |
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| Our fans.. on 09:12 - Nov 5 with 2059 views | SgorioFruit |
haha phet
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| Our fans.. on 09:15 - Nov 5 with 2048 views | costalotta |
Haha. It's Sunday morning and a bit early for that.
Without th city they've got nothing is my point.
And my own view is HJ was just bumbling along until Martinez took over. He changed the club and set it up for the big push. I do accept that HJ along with others on the board gave him the opportunity though but to put it down to HJ is plain ridiculous in my view. I mean, wasn't it Flynn who originally brought Martinez in.
The big change in culture, developing the identity is all down to Martinez. Fact!
The irony is, in those days the managers were left to get on with it, unlike now. | | | |
| Our fans.. on 09:21 - Nov 5 with 2013 views | TheResurrection |
I agree about Martinez and have said that countless times on here but to not give the old regime credit is unfair. | |
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| Our fans.. on 09:21 - Nov 5 with 2014 views | costalotta |
Just to clarify the point about the city playing its part in earning it...
The council built the stadium with tax payers cash.
The support the club was getting in terms of actual match day attendance was awful for the city. I know, I know where we were but, when the board took over from Petty the city got behind them and attendance s went up, and continued to rise until We got to the Liberty, where it then rose again. So yes, the city played its part. | | | |
| Our fans.. on 09:22 - Nov 5 with 2008 views | costalotta |
Credit yes. But that's it they get some of the credit not all of it is my point. | | | |
| Our fans.. on 09:23 - Nov 5 with 2007 views | SgorioFruit |
The bottom line is the club is a disgrace at the moment. By disgrace I mean the board and money men who are there for their own gains and not the clubs.
Followed that with an incompetent manager, and chuck in 11 players on the pitch who don't want to play football ( barring Tammy Nath and Fab.)
then I'm afraid yes you will have fans booing and calling for a massive shake up
not really that hard to comprehend. | |
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| Our fans.. on 09:26 - Nov 5 with 1994 views | STID2017 |
Watching Swans the last three seasons has been a poor experience overall.
To say our tickets haven't gone up in 5 years is like saying "I was spending £200 a month on shopping 10 years ago and I'm spending the same now"
It is true, but have a look what meagre goods are in your trolley now compared to when you started.
We last produced entertaining football on a regular basis when we won the CC Cup.
Since then , we've been on a gradual decline, bar a few good games interspersed in between.
I couldn't make the game yesterday due to a family emergency, but all reports and the MOTD highlights indicate another poor day at the office.
Call me a mug, but I'll be renewing next month.
However I don't feel even if they offered a discount of the £429 I paid last year it's value for money ATM. | |
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| Our fans.. on 09:29 - Nov 5 with 1981 views | DrGonzo |
I don't care what anyone says, the treatment of Carroll and Clucas yesterday was disgraceful. Bloody idiots thinking that is productive, we deserve all we get. | | | |
| Our fans.. on 09:36 - Nov 5 with 1957 views | whoflungdung |
Agree with you all | |
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| Our fans.. on 09:37 - Nov 5 with 1952 views | STID2017 |
In fairness Tom Carroll last season looked a good player, linking with Siggy and Ollson.
The role he's been expecting to take on now is not suiting him.
It's frustrating the fans as well that even when the players on the field are struggling, the manager has a blind spot against certain players such as Mesa.
The guy has to have a decent run in the team - how on earth can he do any worse ?
All that said, I agree that fans treatment of players should be more measured, but it is a very frustrating time to be a Swans fan. | |
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| Our fans.. on 09:38 - Nov 5 with 1949 views | SWAND |
Yes it’s basic but that’s basic tactics set by clement. I mean basic as in making forward runs, beating the first man from a corner. Getting the ball in the box and running their socks off by pressing.
The reason you’ve got people kicking off at stray passes is because it’s happening all the time every single game. At one point in the game yesterday there was a Brighton lad down on the floor after a tackle so we could of had them on the break, instead passed the ball to the lad laying on the ground. If your upset by the hostility then im affairs it’s going to get worse.
When will the rest of the fans who aren’t happy with the boos be making their voices heard?
When mathematically they know we won’t be playing united,Chelsea and city next season? | | | |
| Our fans.. on 09:41 - Nov 5 with 1927 views | Kilkennyjack |
You are right about Clemo.
You are right about Mesa.
You seem very close to the sell outs ?
You seem to want to close down any discussion in terms of the cause of our current problems ?
As for personal attacks, then i really could not give a flying feck about what you think. Feck u.
You do seem rather full of your own importance mind.
You are so clever, you must be running a really successful global scale business, right ?
Unlike the rest of us simple plebs. | |
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| Our fans.. on 09:47 - Nov 5 with 1894 views | whoflungdung |
Booing?
Well,if you re in entertainment, it happens.. I've heard bands booed plenty times, actors fluffing their lines also get pelters .
These people are well compensated by their salaries and the players should be able to take it | |
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| Our fans.. on 09:48 - Nov 5 with 1889 views | Brynmill_Jack |
Weak as kittens the lot of them. In fairness to Dyer ,Fede, Fabianski and Abraham they had a go. Fer completely anonymous , Carroll awful as we're the full backs.
Clement made himself look ridiculous yesterday by finishing the match with two strikers (one out of the schoolboys by the looks of him) , three wingers , one CM and the defence. By not bringing Mesa on and pushing Ki further forward (which would have worked perfectly through the middle) for whatever reason he chose to rub the spaniards nose in it to leek making the ridiculous point he's making.
In short a p*ssed/Paraletic Mesa would have improved our game by at least 75% yesterday. For this reason only Clement MUST go and if the Americans have any intention of another year in the PL Jenkins too. They must get someone in who knows how and where to recruit players and a manager who knows how to use them. And at a reasonable cost. Step forward Michael Laudrup and Bayram Tutumulu [Post edited 5 Nov 2017 9:52]
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| Our fans.. on 09:51 - Nov 5 with 1869 views | ishootpeople |
Talk about biting off your nose to spite your face.
Its pretty pathetic that he can't put his differences with Mesa to one side for the good of the team, hes meant to be a professional manager in the Premier League FFS. | | | |
| Our fans.. on 09:55 - Nov 5 with 1854 views | Bloodyhills |
To OP, stupidest post I've read in a while.
If you think the fans are half the problem then you have no clue about football. I think it might have something to do with the ex owners, manger and players. | |
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