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Tactical voting in Gower 12:43 - May 16 with 20610 viewsacejack3065

The Greens have officially pulled out in Gower and have backed Labour. Interesting stuff. The progressive alliance lives... sort of.

Anyone else tactically voting in Gower, given that it's the most marginal seat in the country?
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Tactical voting in Gower on 22:58 - May 16 with 3255 viewsLohengrin

This is me not the media.

Not really. I love castles, Thatcher not so much. .

NB: The second sentence made sense before young Jack edited his post...
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Tactical voting in Gower on 23:06 - May 16 with 3243 viewsJackTheLad

I assumed that you got the information from a media source.. apologies

I love castles and am not a fan of Thatcher too... clearly.

As Jeremy Corbyn recently said, "what unites us is greater than what divides us"


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Tactical voting in Gower on 23:09 - May 16 with 3242 viewsLohengrin

" a bit of a psychopath...."

Aye, just a bit! If you have the time to dig you may find your jaw start to drop as your come across his array of crimes.

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Tactical voting in Gower on 23:28 - May 16 with 3228 viewsJackTheLad

Right ok, so I'll look into that.

What about ISIS and how they have come about. Do you know anything about Wahhabism?
We are funding ISIS, whether you like to hear it or not, we are selling weapons to Saudi Arabia and these weapons always find themselves in the hands of ISIS.

With warplanes/drones from USA in the sky destroying buildings which include schools, hopsitals, homes etc ISIS are on the ground shooting the civilians dead, this has been happening under the guise of Al Qaeda, Taliban , ISIS for decades - unnoticed by people with polticial views similar to yours (if you don't mind me saying)..

Do you know Rupert Murdoch is on the board of directors of Genie Energy the oil company profiting from these wars? check it out, it's on their official website, G Bush, Nathan Rothschild, Dick Cheney too. Have a good think about that.



How many countries are there left in the world which don't use the dollar? 3? North Korea, Cuba and Iran...

Have you seen the images of the yanks posing with the stolen gold also?

Now, who is the real danger? Jeremy Corbyn who is fighting for peace (and for peace to happen, it would kind of make sense to hold peace talks first before bombing the absolute sh*te out of innocent men women and children) or Theresa May who sucks up the house of Saud and tells us they are our great friends...







But Corbyn spoke to the IRA once so... yeah, let's stay WELL clear of him.
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Tactical voting in Gower on 00:38 - May 17 with 3204 viewsacejack3065

He may be a c**t but there's no need to send death threats ffs. Hope the police pay a visit. Knock knock.
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Tactical voting in Gower on 00:45 - May 17 with 3200 viewsacejack3065

Best backhanded compliment I've ever received on here lol.

I've met many people through young labour, some of whom I'm sure you'd like Loh. The most left wing ones have almost always come from comfortable middle class backgrounds, like a lot more comfortable than someone who went to a comp in Clase from Swansea for example. It's laughable and the amount of political vanity and holier than thou attitudes makes me fume.
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Tactical voting in Gower on 06:01 - May 17 with 3165 viewssiralan

Corbyn spoke at 7 yes SEVEN consecutive IRA rallies and also invited two convicted IRA terrorists to Westminster 3 weeks after the Brighton bombing.

He was far more an activist than "speaking once" to the murdering scum.

Why do you think he totally refuses to speak about it?
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Tactical voting in Gower on 08:19 - May 17 with 3131 viewsswanjackal

Amen! Brother.

Same ilk as you, although sometimes I don't even vote due to nobody appealing enough to my own sensibilities.


Are Plaid actually running in the Gower this time? Not seen anything to indicate it so far, seem very disorganised if they are running.

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Tactical voting in Gower on 09:40 - May 17 with 3098 viewsPapaLazarou

Don't think Plaid are running in Gower. Hopefully some of their voters will vote for Tonia, because it really is a two horse race.

It would be a terrible shame if Byron were to be reelected, you've only got to look at his voting record to see he toes the party line on everything. Besides this, pretty much every question he raises to the Prime Minister seems to be linked to protection of funding for areas where he has business interests.

He was voted in by 27 votes in 2015 on the ticket that his close links to the Tory leadership would help secure the Tidal Lagoon project and funding for the electrification of the line from Paddington to Swansea. 2 years in and neither of these look like they will be signed off by the government...
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Tactical voting in Gower on 10:03 - May 17 with 3084 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Are you saying he's a liar 🤥

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Tactical voting in Gower on 10:14 - May 17 with 3073 viewssherpajacob

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/25355/byron_davies/gower/votes

His full voting record, only 2 years obviously but it gives a picture.

In 389 votes he has never voted against the tory whip.

A yes man?

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Tactical voting in Gower on 10:36 - May 17 with 3063 viewsswanjackal

He's a politician, that is given.

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Tactical voting in Gower on 11:54 - May 17 with 3030 viewsLeonWasGod

I can understand people's responses to this, but ultimately wasn't the whole point of engaging with the IRA and inviting them to Westminster under their Sinn Fein guise one of the early steps towards a downing of weapons and a cease fire?

The Tories were talking to them covertly at the time, so I'm not really sure why JC is being singled out. And I'm not one of his fan boys either.
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Tactical voting in Gower on 12:01 - May 17 with 3018 viewsrock1n

Spot on mate, anyone who believes in the fundamentals of the State should not be voting labour.

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Tactical voting in Gower on 12:03 - May 17 with 3014 viewsLeonWasGod

Blimey. Dirtiest campaign he can remember though? I hadn't even noticed they'd started yet. No sign of anyone round our way, no information, nothing.

Anyone know who the Labour candidate is? All I have is name, Tonia Antoniazzi, and they've put a picture since yesterday on the Labour website. There's no information about what she stands for though, and I've no idea what her politics background / experience is. Shouldn't Labour be really going for this or have they given up already knowing that the UKIPppers are going to give Byron a good majority this time?
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Tactical voting in Gower on 12:43 - May 17 with 2986 viewsLohengrin

Corbyn wasn't a mediator, he had no sanction nor official remit for his actions, Leon. His activities were those of a supporter in the furtherance of the interests of enemies of The Crown. That's treason, like Burgess, Philby and Maclean before him. For the life of me I cannot understand why he was not behind bars.

It's telling that there are three or four ex-servicemen on this thread and the prospect of voting Labour under Corbyn has produced an identical reaction in all. That same conclusion is being reached in every constituency throughout the United Kingdom, I dare say.

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Tactical voting in Gower on 16:34 - May 17 with 2929 viewsthenorthbankbog

You are spot on. I've spoken to a few of my former oppo's and not one of them are even considering voting Labour.
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Tactical voting in Gower on 16:43 - May 17 with 2920 viewsLohengrin

It's the same in work with me, mate. One or two of them are quite angry about it. They have voted Labour since they were old enough and feel that 'their' party has been stolen from them.

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Tactical voting in Gower on 16:48 - May 17 with 2911 viewsLeonWasGod

ok, fair enough. I'm not sure how inviting them to Westminster could not be viewed as an attempt to build bridges though. As an MP at the time, would that not have been considered part of his official remit? I don't know the backgound.

How do you feel about the Tories, with Maggie's and Major's governments conducting talks in private and giving pardons to convicted killer(s?)? Is the same strength of feeling there? I don't have a strong view on this either way, so not looking to score points. Genuinely interested.
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Tactical voting in Gower on 10:10 - May 18 with 2848 viewsswanjackal

So, Plaid Cymru seemingly not running in the Gower? A bit odd they say they represent Wales and then don't put someone up for representation, or did they envisage a crushing defeat in the area again? Maybe they stepped aside to work alongside Labour, aiding the "Red Tories". Seems a bit odd for a party saying they represent the will of the people.

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Tactical voting in Gower on 11:09 - May 18 with 2832 viewsHighjack

Indeed, but my point still stands. The greens, lib dems, plaid and labour are after the same votes around the country. They should absolutely hate each other. They are meant to be rivals. If they really want the Tories out they should either officially merge to create one super party of the left, or the smaller parties should disband to stop diluting the labour vote. These deals and tactical voting makes them look weak and that they don't really care about their own policies, dreams and aspirations.

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Tactical voting in Gower on 13:53 - May 18 with 2797 viewsLohengrin

Disgusted and betrayed is the short answer, Leon.

Roger Casement and William Joyce were attempting to build bridges in their own times and in their own ways. They were both hanged.

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Tactical voting in Gower on 09:49 - May 19 with 2726 viewssherpajacob

for the closest marginal in the country, the bookies think the Tories will walk it.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/gower/winning-party

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Tactical voting in Gower on 11:14 - May 19 with 2699 viewstrampie

Some of the castles are Welsh castles and not foreign immigrant invader castles.

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Tactical voting in Gower on 11:23 - May 19 with 2692 viewstrampie

Vote Plaid in Gower and every other constituency in Wales, its what would be best for Wales.

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